*** OFFICIAL Sager NP8760 / Clevo W870CU Owners Lounge ***

Clevo will NOT let any reseller pass out those BIOS's if Clevo wanted you to have them then they would just put it on the system in the first place.

MySN is just using the forum to try to get people to buy from them and not delivering .....

 

Once again, your posts are full of statements that come across as facts, but are in actuality, just your opinion. You have a habit of doing that.

Assuming that you can confirm that official, unlocked Clevo bioses even exist, where is the support for that statement?

They do put them on the system in the first place. You can see in the xoticPC W870CU review, that overclocking is possible with the default bios. This is the same bios everyone gets, there isn't a special bios for the W870CU + 920XM, and then a regular bios for everyone else. What they WANT is for people to pay more for the 920XM to get the overclocking feature enabled.

Nobody-3's email proved that statement false. They offered him the unlocked bios, but requested he ship his unit back to be upgraded to the unlocked bios. From everything we've seen, they are capable of delivering on this promise.

That makes no sense. So overclocking on Dell = WIN? You're overclocking the hardware, not the ODM/OEM. According to your statement, if I had a Dell with the same exact specs as a Clevo, and I overclocked them both in the same manner, that somehow constitutes a "FAIL" for overclocking the Clevo?

Moo, I respect you, I'm sure you're a nice guy, but for whatever reason you seem to feel the need to state your opinion as fact. I think people would be a lot less hard on you if you prefaced your posts by "I think [this]", or "From what I have seen, [this]".

 

are the warrenties worth it? and dead pixel?

I ask because im still running my 5+ year old compal cl56. all original parts, no dead pixels.

 

I see that your message is sensational and very Pro DELL (Alien WARE) that does nothing more than create discord.
Clevo model for today in his first W870CU bios has no option but surely Overclocking available in future versions available.

 

Don't bother about this unlocked BIOS, this is an email I got from mySN:

If anyone got this unlocked BIOS from mySN, they could easily publish it here by saving existing BIOS using flash utility. But since this BIOS is preproduction version and won't get any updates, its usage is not recommended.

 

That makes sense.. I wonder if Clevo has issues with MySN.de advertising and selling their laptops as shipping with pre-production (or as they call them, unlocked) bioses..

 

I'm glad we could help out. :]

 

Now it just needs to get into UPS' hands.

 

I know the feeling.. Waiting is the hardest part.. I'm hoping mine ships tomorrow or Monday. I would love to have it by next weekend as well.

 

look you can call it what ever you want and take it however you want

the 9262 for example was locked out and the only way you could overclock was a pin mod.






You can easily overclock most of Clevo's models by software easy, just certain ones they lock you out at every level and they are not enabled at the BIOS level unless youbuy the extreme editions. Which is all i am refering to and that is true with like 95% of all laptops. So its nothing to frown about.

Also THE BIOS'S ARE THE SAME the overclocking features ore enable when it checks the ID string the CPU has embedded on it to unlock the features





So if your done insulting me and trying to find fault in me then i would like to continue trying to post freely here.

 

Also there are people here that tested models from Clevo that reside here on the forum and had a bios for the M98nu that has ALL overclocking features including voltage control


the fail comment was more directed to the 9262 and the likes like that. Clevo and Alienware just have been traditionally NON-overclocking companys.


Ask any one about the bios unlocking by the string ID

Why do you think people can swap out a p8600 for a qx9300 and then have all the features open up ?


If you own a AW or anything else it just isn't ok to post here .... i really don't understand it .... yea i was saying Clevos suck for overclocking but they usually do and so do alienwares until the M17x .... even the M15x has the BIOS locked.

No laptop has to be better i was stateing facts,

clevo does not want overclocking enabled unless its a extreme CPU
MySN should NOT be passing those out
the overclocking feature is enabled by a CPU id string





No laptop is with out fault and no company is better. The M15x has issues as well ... it has a throttling issues with its GPU. So please stop making a HUGE deal about Clevo VS the WORLD....

 

i was at sager for a small service, and i asked them regarding the unlocked bios posted here by mysn.

Sager showed me the bios it looked exactly the same, but it was on a pre-production unit.

and the bios version was a much lower version count then current as it is pre-production as well.

and told me that the function is only unlocked during pre-production testing, clevo has removed all the function show in the bios when it finalized the unit for release and will not be releasing any future bios with it unlocked.

so the risk here with mysn is you get the unlock in that one version, but if you ever update to a newer version of bios it's gone? or if mysn has special connection to get it unlock for in-house flash only you would have to send your unit in for reflash every time?

sounds kina gimpy.

 

The resellers can get a BIOS from Sager or Clevo depending who they are getting their units from.

But they are not supposed to release it for customers, and to this date Clevo has not released a public BIOS for overclocking


And to be honest Alienware set a new standard for HIGH end systems when they released to overclocking features on the M17x because to that date NO laptop i know of has FSB and Ram controls in the BIOS for non extreme CPU's.

Also i can open up a BIOS editor on the M98nu BIOS and show it has overclocking features on it but they are locked due to the CPU ID

 

I have actually done that already and yes, the M98nu has overclocking options hidden in the BIOS and if I recall correctly, the W860 also has them for the multiplier.

 

Dude, I'm moo-ving on. We now know the source of the bios (pre-production) and that's what interested me the most. Continue to try and add support to your previous statements however you want.

 

Woo, just got an email, it's shipping next week!

 

I spoke too soon. Just got the shipping notice!

 

[napoleon dynamite] lucky.. [/napoleon dynamite]

 

Just got an email saying mine shipped today with UPS's estimated arrival being the 10th.

 

Nice ZD! Where'd you order from, xotic?

 

Got my Sager NP8760 this week. Reading through the multitude of pages here, I saw the pics of the BIOS with the Extreme Processor [Enabled] as well as the Multiplier Clock [1x-4x] but mine, sadly does not have either of these options.

I called Sager and they didn't really know much about it and I sent them to the pics on the forum (they said they'd get back to me).

The sales rep at Sager SOLD me on this laptop by explaining that the 920XM could be overclocked, so I expected to be able to do this, but it seems I cannot.

I also brought up the Intel Extreme Tuning Utilities and Profiles functions of the 920XM with Sager, but the tech support person really couldn't give me an answer. There was no utility to overclock or overclocking functions with my Sager NP8760 laptop whatsoever with my unit.

So, with all the hype about overclocking the 920XM (even on the Intel site), anyone have any ideas on how to do so? Seems the laptop I got from Sager doesn't allow me to do this in any way shape or form out of the box.

 

Like i said it is locked out on your model

the 17 inch has it enabled though

 

Yep... but the Sager rep shouldn't have told me it could be done if it was "locked out" . It's extremely frustrating because I bought the top of the line 8760 model (160 SSD, 8G RAM, etc.) based on their own glowing recommendation and I can't seem to do with it what they told me I could do with it.

 

So let me get this straight. You have the W870CU with the 920XM and you do not have the options to overclock the CPU in BIOS? What BIOS revision do you have?

 

If you have the 17" (W870CU) with 920XM, you should be able to overclock in the bios. Babyhemi has it, and he can. Where did you order from?

 

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I ordered mine from Sager... the NP8760. My screen is 17.3. This one here, with the 920XM option:

http://www.sagernotebook.com/product_customed.php?pid=218647

I've called Sager and spoke to tech support. They swore to me that my current BIOS version number 1.01 (something... my laptop is currently packed away and turned off) was the most current and correct version. I showed them this very thread with the pics and they said "they'd look into it". No explanation as to why I didn't have either of the BIOS options pictured here in this thread. Hopefully, someone with the same Sager model can let us know if they have the same options (or not) in their BIOS. Mine came on the Tuesday before Thanksgiving but I didn't get it until this week at the office.

 

Strange. I'm using the same 1.00.01 (non-S) BIOS and I have the options to overclock right infront of me.

 

Ask them to send you the bios via email so you can update it. You should be able to overclock.

Silly question, but I assume device manager is reporting a 920XM CPU?

 

Here's the BIOS that's on my Sager 8760. This is what it was shipped to me with:

BIOS REVISION: 1.01.04S LS2
KBC/EC FIRMWARE REVISION 1.00.01

Under ADVANCED, I only have the following options:

Turbo Mode
No Execute Mode Mem Protection
Intel(R) Virtualization Technology
VT-d Technology

That's it...

In DEVICE MANAGER, I have 8 listings in a row that say:
Intel(R) Core (TM) i7 CPU X920 @ 2.00Ghz

My processor seems to be correct... my BIOS has to be the culprit, right?

 

Yes sir.. Maybe Soviet will post his BIOS revision for comparison, assuming it's not G-14 classified.

 

Ah, he is using 1.01.04S LS2. I thought he was using 1.00.01 like he tried to recall in his previous post.

 

Is there a newer version, or one I can download with the overclock options somewhere?

 

The only option you have is to ask Sager for a copy.

 

Yep, hopefully they should do that, considering it's more than likely BIOS related. Sager/Clevo is notoriously stingy when it comes to handing out bios updates to consumers.

If they do send you the bios, please PM me and I'll provide you my email. I'd like to host the bios so people who run into related problems don't have to ask their resellers to email them a copy.

 

Will do. Thx, all!

 

Just ordered from xoticpc, cant wait to get it =)

I7-820QM
4GB DDR3 1333MHZ RAM
250GB 7200RPM HDD
Windows 7 Home

One question:

Do you guys think I should pick up a Zalman NC2000 for this thing? I wanna keep it as cool as possible.

 

It's certainly not necessary, the W870CU has one of the best cooling systems out. I suppose you could always buy it, test it out, then return it if it doesn't help much, or makes things worse.

 

Isn't it possible to backup your current BIOS and KBC/EC firmware to files?

 

Yes, there are a few applications that can do that for Phoenix BIOS. However, I do not need to as I already have a copy of my BIOS from my vendor.

 

Perhaps Don May Jr could try flashing your bios. I wonder if also other vendors than Sager disabled overclocking even for the 920XM in the latest bios of W870CU.

 

If I were Don May Jr, I'd wait for Sager to get back to me before proceeding.

 

It is odd that they would disable BIOS overclocking in a newer version, if it wasn't causing problems. I read somewhere (can't remember where, though) that, in a few rare cases, this particular build of computer was having problems if more than 4gig of RAM was installed. Since I have 8 installed, perhaps this BIOS is more stable? I dunno... it's just speculation on my part... but there has to be a reason for them to have taken out those options in a newer version of the BIOS.

 

Agreed 100%...

 

Both the W860CU and W870CU were able to support 8GB of memory the day they were available for purchase.

Sager uses a different numbering scheme for their modified Clevo based BIOS compared to a straight Clevo BIOS that I have. I don't know if it is newer or not since Sager changes their numbering pattern over the years.

 

I know one that today got his and it too has this bios that does not OC for the extreme cpu...is this the way they are ALL now shipping?

 

XoticPC openly advertises the overclocking in its' 8760 configuration page, so I would hope they would supply an overclocking BIOS.

Edit: Erm, wth, they must've changed it very recently as I checked earlier today. It's no longer listed.

 

Interesting side note. Clevo's website that once stated "Overclocking CPU" regarding the W870CU, now states:

Excellent Performance
- Performance enhancement
- Intel Turbo boost technology
- Intel extreme processor support

That's all it now says.

http://www.clevo.com.tw/en/products/prodinfo.asp?productid=236

 

Okay, I'm getting paranoid. I want that overclockable BIOS for the future when I upgrade to the 920xm!

 

Interesting.. Well, Soviet said he still has a copy of his bios, which is allowing overclocking..