*** OFFICIAL Sager NP8760 / Clevo W870CU Owners Lounge ***

I am going to roll with these.

I have had good experiences with corsair (and crucial for that matter) in the past.

 

There have been a few people complaining about the HyperX memory as of late. It's like a bad batch went out but hasn't been totally depleted. I have to test my new ones when they come in.

 

I'd rather just get something different then keep repeating this.

You know the saying re: insanity, right? lol

 

"the more things change, the more they stay the same" ...... good luck!

 

Hey sleey, how does the screen on the Clevo compare to the G73?

 

Same screen. Same EXACT screen, lol.

Anyway, I stole the Samsung 1066 sticks out of my wife's M11x and I have no more appcrashes or BSOD's

 

I'm stealing the RAM out the M15x until the RAM i got from Scook for 60$ comes in

 

Any news on the possibility of disabling hyperthreading in this notebook?

And the 920xm still doesn't have advanced oc control in bios?

 

you will never get the OC feature

 

I went with the OCZ 8gb (2x4gb) has the same timings as the corsair. I'll let you know how they are on Wednesday

 

It will be here tommorw

5870 720m

First one baby!

 

Depends if mine arrives first ....

 

It's all this guy's fault for luring Alienware users in here with copper bait.

 

You guys are getting Saturday deliveries?

 

Nevermind there on the way ...

 

The HyperX ram I got is a different revision and passed the mem86 test. Maybe the crappy stuff is gone now.

 

What exactly is your setup going to be, HD and such?

 

You guys blow getting Saturday deliveries, mine will be here next Wed. I got the proc in today now I just need the rest of it I am pretty excited after the G73 fiasco to finally have a stable laptop.

 

i7 920 4gigs 1333 2x500gigs

 

So yours did ship today, quad?

 

Yep it will be here tomorrow...

 

Just curious but why are you guys going with 4gb of ram instead of 6 or 8? Latency?

 

Waste of money more then anything ...


Oh and i can thank Mandrake for hooking me up with the RAM in the first place.... Great guy ...

 

Yep.

I don't do anything that requires even 4GB.

 

i720
3 gb DDR3
250 + 320 HD
5870m
1900 res

 

the only thing i can think of that may require more than 4gb of ram is some heavy hd video editing
so unless your into that its probably a waste

 

Thanks for the answer.

And what about the possibilty of disabling hyperthreading?
Exist or not?
And in other notebooks?

Soviet Sunrise has already told me that there is no possibility, but why?
Is it a Bios problem?

In the desktop motherboard, there is the possibility of disabling it, why not in a notebook?

 

Clevo didn't feel like adding the toggle for it, that's all. Many desktop motherboards have BIOS's that do not have the toggle to disable Hyperthreading either.

 

Narrowing it down to this:

920, 5870, Diamond Compound, 7 Pro, 4 GB 1333, 80 GB SSD for programs, 500 GB 7000rpm for data, no BR and 3 year warranty.

Not sure about the Diamond Compound?
May just go with Raid 500x2 instead of a primary SSD?
I don't think that I would use BR, I don't use it in my home theater.
Who to order from? PC Torque is nearby and they offer ADP.
I would like to have a RGB screen though, but

Basically waiting to see how you guys that just got this like it.

 

Next to the RGB, this is the next best LED screen in the W870.

 

I do a lot of VMware work at the office but not enough to justify the $200 difference in price so I canned my ram order and got 4gb and used the extra cash to get a SSD since I figure it will be a better upgrade anyways. I just made the switch to Win7 from XP so I was assuming it was a memory hog like Vista.

 

That is VERY good to hear! So maybe the BR player wouldn't be such a bad idea?

 

Thanks Soviet Sunrise. I'd like Clevo has put this swith in the bios, but whatever.

I'm trying to understand how hyperthreading works. If i run only a heavy single threaded application, i will see in the task manager a (max) 12,5% use of the cpu (1/8), but i will use in reality a core at max (if i'm running only this application, lets say the clock will go at 3,2Ghz with the 920xm), so in reality i will use the 25% of the cpu (1/4). Is it correct?

 

Incorrect. Why are you doubling your CPU usage for a single threaded application? The CPU cannot split threads. Your CPU is going to use 12.5% of the available resources on that single core for that thread, period. If it is a dual threaded application or if you are running two different applications, Hyperthreading on the i7 will try to squeeze both threads onto a single core if it doesn't use all the core's resources, if not allocate each thread do a dedicated core. Essentially, Hyperthreading tries to get the most efficiency by using up all available on the least cores possible before dipping into using additional physical cores. However, this does use a bit more electrical power so it's not always a perfect tradeoff.

 

The reason i said that is: if a thread is using all the resources of one core, lets say the thread is at 100%, the result is that i have an occupied thread, seven free, so 12,5% of threads use, but one core is completely occupied with that thread, three are free, so 25% of cores use.
Phisically i'm using one out of four core (25%), meanwhile using one out of eight thread (12,5%).
Wrong again?

 

Good deal, cool.

And congrats on fixing yer BSOD issue.

 

Oh, you're viewing the percentage used by physical cores when one thread is pushed 100%. Your wording was very ambiguous, but I see now. Yes, it would be 25% then when seen as only four physical cores. But Hyperthreading will present the CPU as having eight cores available to the OS so it will show up as 12.5%.

Some applications cannot take advantage of Hyperthreading. For example, the game GTAIV cannot; in task manager, one will only see four threads being used by the game for a total CPU usage of up to 50% as seen by the OS.

I forgot to mention this in my previous post, but Hyperthreading will allow the CPU to perform better only when the resource usage per core is less than 100%. The additional overhead required to allow Hyperthreading to operate will make the raw execution performance per core slower, but not by much. Single threaded apps, apps that cannot utilize Hyperthreading, and apps that drive the number of cores that it can use to 100% will be slower compared to when Hyperthreading is disabled. Using the GTAIV example I explained above, the game engine can only use one thread per core, so with Hyperthreading enabled, you are going to see slightly lower CPU performance.

Hyperthreading has been revamped a lot since it's debut in the P4 days. The performance drawback is not as prevalent as the old Hyperthreading so all those reviews on Google that talk about Hyperthreading being a detriment to the CPU is now null. But I agree with the fact that CPU's nowadays are so powerful that they do not require Hyperthreading anymore; additional threads can just be offloaded to more cores.

 

Welp I finally gave in and ordered one on XoticPC about an hour ago. I had originally wanted a G73 but due to stock problems I had to rethink my purchase, and I've wanted a Sager since I first saw them like 10 years ago when gaming notebooks didn't really exist and they were the only people making them.

 

I cant get my Vbios

 

What does it report when you do a atiflash -i

 

I cant seem to install any video drivers for the gtx 280m. Every time I try to install a driver I get the message, the system cannot find any drivers compatible with your system.

If I run the auto scan on Nvidia's site it says: The manufacturer of this system requires that you download the driver for your GPU from their support site. Their drivers are old though


Any ideas?

 

You should check out http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/

You can find drivers for your 285M by installing drivers with a modded INF, allowing nearly every mobile Nvidea card to be installed.

 

How were you able to confirm the revision of your HyperX RAM?

 

I have a 280M though... are the drivers going to be the same for the 285M?

 

Oh I'm sorry yea the modded INF drivers will work for the 280M if its on the list. I only said 285M because I read wrong.

 

No worries... So sorry for the dumb question, but I do not want the driver download then, I just want to download the modified INF? lol this stuff confuses me, I just want to download the latest drivers for my card! hah =/

I tried downloading a driver from laptopvideo2go, but got the same error message.

 

It's on the sticker of the memory and it shows up in memtest86.

Plus the sticker has different info in it with a hologram.

Pic of new HyperX

 

Is that 9905428-023.A00LF?

 

Thanks for the site mylowrider, found Dox's drivers on there and they worked great! I am now on ver. 195.62

 

Yes. My older modules say 022.A00LF.