*** OFFICIAL Sager NP8760 / Clevo W870CU Owners Lounge ***

Didnt try DOS

GPU-Z said this device does not support it

 

I bet it will work fine with atiflash.

 

if i get the card running @ 1.15 I know i can hit 1 ghz on the core

My temps last night maxed out @40c

 

What is it currently running at?

 

got it up to 965 on the core

Ok i havethe ROM funny It reports as a juniper core



Anyway here is the best part.... I can control the fan within RBE so i can set up my own profile and blast the fans 100% all the time

 

What is the default voltage?

 

1.15

I manually typed 1.2 and it accepted it

 

When you said "if i get the card running @ 1.15 I know i can hit 1 ghz on the core" I thought maybe it was something other than 1.15.

 

The AMD GPU CLOCK TOOL reported it @ 1.05 so thats why i said that but i found out it wasn't

 

here you go

 

Guys im trying to update with the 196.21 drivers (win 7 64bit, gtx280m 1gb) and I get this message : t he nvidia setup program could not locate any drivers that are compatible with your current hardware ANyone know what Im doing wrong? Am I supposed to uninstall the current ones??

 

Are you using mobility drivers or desktop ones? Typically that is because you are using the wrong supported driver. Go to http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/ to get the latest driver for your notebook.

 

Someone please explain this. lol

Got the Corsair RAM in, and immediately my system would reboot itself. It would get to the starting windows screen and reboot. Even safe mode and repair wouldn't work.

So I pop memtest in and it is finding massive errors and the error counter is going wild.

Reboot.

Now memtest is running ok so I quit at 10% just to see if my system would boot and sure enough it did. Just played a whole campaign on L4D2 and no problems,

I can't figure it out or decide if I should RMA the RAM again....

 

Reseat your processor and repeat the tests. Do a power drain before hand.

 

I am just going to let memtest do a full out test.

If it errors out again, then I'll tinker. I have never had issues with Corsair RAM so I am thinking it was a fluke.


Thanks for the help drake!

 

Are using the Modified .INF file ?

1.Download Driver zip file
2.Download Modified .INF
3.Copy .inf file into the drivers folder and replace existing.
4.Run Setup and you should be good to go.

 

1.You mean I download the latest nvidia driver for my video card in .zip format instead of .exe?
2. Where can I download the modified .inf?

thanks for helping!

 

My pleasure,

1. Go to http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/ and choose the dirvers you want to installs they should download in a .zip automatically.
2.The Modified .inf should be next to the option to download at the top. Very easy to spot.
3.Unzip driver to a folder on desktop, drag .inf into folder and then run the .exe file in the unzipped folder.

If you need any more help just send me a PM, dont want to clog the thread.

 

This thread is already clogged with Alienware/Asus refugees.

 

I for one said this was the laptop to get back in October...now here they come...

 

I'm not getting one. Just interesting because the systems just got the 5870.

 

Memory is fine, drake

 

LOL! 10char

 

Well after a lot of research and thought, I have pulled the trigger on the Sager 8760. I fully loaded it up and looking forward to it. Spec’s are below. Before I get grief for picking the GTX285 over the ATI 5870, there is a reason for that. I primarily flight sim and the Nvidia drivers are significantly better (Faster, much better visuals) for my use. Also decided since I have always bought mid range gear and forgo that last 10-20% performance in the name of saving money, that it was time to treat myself and get the top of the line CPU.

I checked out both XoticPC and Powernotebooks, they were both really good at answering my questions, but went with Powernotebooks. Either one would have been very good to use.

17.3” Full HD (1920x1080) 16:9 LED Backlit Super Clear Glossy Widescreen
nVIDIA GeForce GTX 285M 1GB GDDR3
i7-920XM Extreme (2.0~3.2GHz, 55W) w/8M L3 Cache
4GB (2 SODIMMS) DDR3/1333 Dual Channel Memory
Installing my own Intel 160Gig G2 SSD
320GB SATA II 3Gb/s 7,200 RPM Hard Drive (16MB Cache Buffer)
4x Blu-Ray Reader/8x Super Multi Combo Drive
7-in-1 Memory Card Reader (All versions of MS + SD/MMC)
Built-in Intel® Centrino® Ultimate-N 6300 Wireless Card
Built-in Bluetooth Wireless
Li-Polymer Battery Pack 3800mAh, 42.18Wh
Full Range Auto Switching AC Adapter
Standard Carrying Case
2 Year + 30 Day Pixel Warranty - 8760

This sure is a major upgrade for me!!

 

5700 series is the Juniper core.

 

I knwo that but its just sad that it is ....

Funny though they did not change it

128 bit /=/ 256 bit

 

I am having a MAJOR dilemma.

I will write in point form, since this may be a long post...would really like to hear some feedback (also sorry for double posting in the Asus section just wanted to get additional feedback - apologizing in advance)...

1) I am NOT a gamer. I will play a few games here and there, but what I really want is an AFFORDABLE powerhouse for Adobe CS4, video, photoshop, web design and day-day computer work. I want a 17" screen - that is not negotiable.

2) I was "set" on the Asus G73, until all the problems keep cropping up. I want a no-nonsense machine with the smallest chance of issues, problems, etc...

3) I am starting to look at the Sager/Clevo 870U and the new Lenovo W701s coming out soon...not sure which way to go here...

Some questions I have are:

a) Is it worth $550 to go from a i7-820 to a i7-920 if I have no plans on any overclocking?

b) What is the difference between the screens on the Clevo 870U and the Asus G73?

c) Am I better off with a Nvidia 285 over the Ati 5870 considering the number of GPU issues cropping up with the 5870?

d) What about the "other" comparisons between the 2 machines - keyboard, extra buttons, cooling, general feel of the machine - don't care about aestetics just funtionality...?


Lastly - is there ANY OTHER machine I should consider in the $1500 to $2800 range?


THANKS!!

 

A No
B none they are the same screen
c There are no issues of the 5870's those GPU's were made by asus so they are just crappier things

D Keyboard is better here and so is the touch pad ... Overalli love the machien way more then the Asus as a work horse

I own both

 

Moo

You aren't going to sell you G73?

I thought you were a poor college student? lol

 

@ corpfan... If I was in your shoes

a. I would NOT pay the extra $550 for the CPU if I had no intention of an overclock

b. I dont own either but I have read they are both excellent screens with very little difference in quality between them.

c. I would go with the Nvidia card because the mechanics of it is 2 years old so it has had many many driver revisions and has a proven track record as you are not gaming the addition of DX11 has no benefit to you.

d. Again I dont own either but check out The Moo's review on both machines they make for an excellent read and both appear to be very good although I believe that his preference is the Clevo unit.

e. Other options to look at would be:

1. Clevo X8100 the 18.4 screen would give you more are to work on although it is the same resolution as the W870 the extra 1.4" will make quite a difference for photoshop etc etc. Can be run as SLI or if you wanted to reduce cost you could spec it with 1 card

2. Clevo D900f 17" frame but utilising the awesome desktop i7 processor uses the same Nvidia card and probably runs cooler than W870 due to the excellent cooling of the unit. Without a doubt the best mobile workstation laptop available at the moment.

 

Thanks for the feedback!

The only thing preventing me from something like the X8100 or the D900f is the weight of the machine (at 3 lbs heavier than the 870u)...my desktop kicks - so what I really want is a powerhouse portable (but with at least 17" screen).

Do you think waiting a month or 2 would help with the difference in price between the 820 and the 920 cpus? Or is it not even worth the upgrade at all?

 

As far as I am aware Intel does not generally drop the price of the Extreme CPU's they just get upgraded and updated. They have already announced that the 920 will be replaced later on this year with the 930.

At the end of the day its entirely up to you, I have ordered a Clevo X8100 with a 920 because I intend to use the machine to play Supcom and Supcom 2 which is notoriously CPU hungry also the people I bought it from said that if I needed the extra boost from the CPU they can overclock it.

 

I'm in a similar position as corpfan1 trying to decide between the two. I think you said in your review regarding the screen that you found the W870 better than the G73 though? So they are in fact the same screen?

 

magic,

I am now leaning to the Asus again...lol...never ends...

I can't seem to justify the cost of the Sager - almost double (but CPU will be 820 - a bit better)...

Other issues I am having...reasons to get the Asus...

1) No backlit keyboard...really want one.

2) Have to pay extra for Windows.

3) No mouse or backpack.

4) Sager warranty a bit of a problem for me in Canada as I will have to pay shipping both ways if there is an issue.

5) No expandability past 8GB - only 2 DIMM slots...Asus has 4 slots.

6) Volume/sound seems much better on the Asus from reviews/opinions.

7) Sager much louder fans.

8) Can't get it in Canada - have to pay customs/duty, etc...


(Reasons FOR the Sager)

a) Seems more reliable. No problems with ATI cards.

b) Better keyboard/touchpad.

c) ESata and Firewire and ExpressCard ports.

d) Better overall cooling (?).

e) Easy to get at parts when opening.

f) Can get it quick and NOW.



Does that pretty much sum it up everyone? What am I missing? Is anything above out of line?

Thanks!

 

The Asus will over-clock the i7-720QM, the Clevo can't.

 

What? I don't remember any OC settings.

If you are referring to the TwinTurbo well that doesn't do much. lol

 

@Corpfan1 and magicdud -- You guys are born Asus G73 owners. Embrace your destiny. You will love them.

 

Corpfan1 and Magicdud

1) No backlit keyboard...really want one.

I wanted a backlit to, but after prioritizing what is important in a laptop it was far enough down the list to live with. I went to Best buy and looked at an asus G60 with the feature and felt that it was ok, the lighting was so bright that It was hard to see how it would look in a totally dark environment. The display would be bright enough to light up the keys anyway.

2) Have to pay extra for Windows.

Yeah that’s a bummer, I was lucky in that I have a copy of Win 7 Ultimate that I got free at a Microsoft event last fall.

3) No mouse or backpack.

I have an old Asus G1 that came with a mouse and backpack. I found the backpack very uncomfortable to use and kinda cheap, and I never used the mouse because I prefer a wireless mouse. I ended up with a much nicer backpack that is much better for long hauls.

4) Sager warranty a bit of a problem for me in Canada as I will have to pay shipping both ways if there is an issue.

Cannot really comment.

5) No expandability past 8GB - only 2 DIMM slots...Asus has 4 slots.

8GB of ram will be overkill for 99% of what most people will need for what would be an expected life span of 3 years for this laptop. By then you will be ready to upgrade then anyway.

6) Volume/sound seems much better on the Asus from reviews/opinions.

This was higher on my list than the keyboard. I looked at the MSI 1727 which has much better sound, but in the end it was 3rd or 4th on the list. Laptop sound is mediocre at best even with good sound system. If you want better sound external speakers are going to be needed either way.

7) Sager much louder fans.

That is so subjective, one persons noise is a another’s music. I cannot comment till I get mine.

8) Can't get it in Canada - have to pay customs/duty, etc...

That could be painfull

(Reasons FOR the Sager)

a) Seems more reliable. No problems with ATI cards.

Way more reliable based

Way more reliable based on the problems reported in the G73 forums versus the lack of any real show stopping problems here in the sager forums.

b) Better keyboard/touchpad.

Hope so, this is my first chicklet style keyboard.

c) ESata and Firewire and ExpressCard ports.

This one is for sure a big plus.

d) Better overall cooling (?).

I would say it’s definitely better, it will be much easier to keep clean, than theG73. The flow of air in the G73 and the design of the chassis will make keeping clean a real bummer.

e) Easy to get at parts when opening.

Yep

f) Can get it quick and NOW.

I ordered mine today and they are going to try and get it to me by next Friday.

If you look at my post up about a page I describe what I ended with and why if it’s of any interest.

 

SAger is not much louder and it wont randomly die and overheat.Leaving the owner to wait 3 weeks like me

 

Thank you for the AWESOME feedback.

Still stuck in the mud...

$2000 Cdn vs. $3500 Cdn for same specs except what the differences between the machines are (ports, etc..)

 

get the cheaper

 

Doesn't do much? Do you know what it does?

I would bet all kinds of $$$ that this has happened to a Clevo owner before.

 

I just got my Sager 8760 in the mail yesterday. It's much bigger than I imagined...

I am trying to figure out what O/S to install. I a am kinda leaning towards Windows 7 Pro.

Here are the specs of what I got.

i7 820 processor
Nvidia 280 GPU
IC Diamond TC
6gb Ram
500gb 7200rpm SATA
BlueRay Burner multi-drive

This is my first laptop, so I'm not like this major PC gear-head (though I'm geting there)... I've never even installed an O/S before. I have a few questions that I'm hoping that y'all can help me with.

1. Is there any help available when I install the O/S
2. What OS is recommended?
3. I was considering a dual boot with Ubuntu and Widows. What are you thoughts here?
4. What, if anything should I know about my new laptop that is not common knowledge.
5. I am considering an additional 500gb HD , what brand to you recommend?

Like I said, this is my 1st laptop, I purchased it from Sager directly. It seems that I should have went to a reseller but I'll try to hope for the best here... Sorry for the new-b questions but, if I don't ask, I'll never know...

Thanks!

 

Why, yes.

Doesn't it bump the bclk subtly?

I tried different vantage runs on and off an TT didn't help my CPU score.

 

Yes, so essentially you are OC'ing your processor and memory by 7%. Definitely helped my 3DMark06 CPU and Vantage CPU score. Plus it can be toggled on and off in Windows with any processor. No other system can do that. Even the M17xR2 is only 5% and still requires a 920.

 

Well, like I said I didn't see any noticeable improvements.

Did you run it with the 720 and 920? Or just the 920?

 

720 and it made Games run worse

 

Ditto here........

 

Yes I ran it on both with HyperX memory.

 

Hmm so 920XM ES is just $595 now. There's no reason to go for any other CPU when the barebones is just $1045.

So my plan is:

Barebones w/ wireless - $1085
i7 920XM - 595
4GB Kingston HyperX - 120
WD3200BEKT - 70

Total = $1870

Or I could cheap out with the i7 620M, which would take it all the way down to $1533.

Now I just have to save up for it....