*** OFFICIAL Sager NP8760 / Clevo W870CU Owners Lounge ***

Do you guys know how to change the keyboard? Do you loose the warranty?

 

Changing the keyboard is pretty simple, have a look at the service manual in my sig. This should not void your warranty unless you have a really bad reseller.

 

Thanks everyone for the advice. My friend placed the order yesterday. If there's time, I'll post some impressions and pics when it gets here.

 

Speaking of the keyboard, what do you think of the W870CU / Sager NP8760 keyboard? How's the typing and such. Just making a little log on this. Thanks.

 

There are a lot of manuals, which on is the right one?

Thanks!

The keyboard is comfortable!

 

Well before fixing the spacebar issue, I didn't like typing on it at all. Now that the spacebar actually registers my press (i don't have to pound it any more) it is an easy to use keyboard. Still wish it was backlit though, oh well, it wasn't a deterrent for me.

 

The one for the W860/870CU?

 

Here are some temps. All of these were recorded after 30 minutes at the designated state(idle\full load). I recorded the max temp after this period was up.

I also picked up a couple packs of these and will be testing either later this week or over the weekend.

I am also planning on trying to cut up some the Vizio sinks to make them fit in more locations since those seem to have the best cooling power. I will likely need to cut some of the Swiftech sinks as well, they are about the same length but a little thinner.

 

Very impressive. Will be following your efforts.

 

I've got two pack of the Enzotech's slowly coming as well. Matched with a cooling pad, this should really make a difference.

 

The Enzotech's in my testing did not have much of an effect. Might be different with a cooler. Let me know how it goes.

 

My bad, I read your results incorrectly. It's too bad I already had them shipped over here. I would guess though, having a cooler blowing air right into the center would make all the difference in the world. Right now, it's just using air that's getting sucked into the fans anyways.

 

Nice work Marz001. Keep up the good work. And those aluminium heatsink should drop temps by 1-3oC. Post for any updates!

 

Nice work ! You put quite a load of copper there.

I think I'll try that too. Although my temps are satisfactory right now, I'd like to cool it more so fans would not engage so much.

 

I'm not sure which display I have, but has anyone else noticed that some solid colors (ie greys) looks "static-like" when you look closely? Kind of like a fuzz tv signal. You can't notice it from more than 40cm away though.

 

Sounds like bad screen signal to me JohnnyFlash. I' ve heard that this lapy has one of the best screen for G.Laptop. Is this true?

 

The screen looks really nice, I'm thinking it might just be because it's a 6bit panel. Or atleast I hope so. It's only really noticeable on dark gray.

 

Hello everyone,

I am on the verge of purchasing the NP8760, and I was hoping that one of you had any experience with xoticpc.com. That place seems to be the cheapest if I purchase it completely stock, but if anyone else could recommend getting it cheaper from anywhere else that would be appreciated.

 

Next page: XoticPC happy customers comments.

 

I just ordered this same laptop from them tonight. Justin has answered all my questions since I've started emailing his? company. I won't be getting the laptop until the end of the month (return from deployment, using a check to capitalize on discounts, mailing said check from the middle east/europe so turn around will be slow). But I'll be happy to let you know my experience when I get it.

I went through xoticpc because of everyone else's recommendation on this site.

 

Would this adapter work?

It lists 19V 7.9A 150W, which should be fine I think, but I'm weak on electrical knowledge.

 

No. 10char

 

OK, why not?

 

Ah, I just reloaded the page. Now I see the really big image down below. These damn Korean sites take ages to load. Yes, that one does work. I was looking at those two icons in the subheader under the specs.

 

Trying to find useful stuff in this country is a pain. I didn't even end up ordering, there were 3 different polarity configs and I don't have a clue. Just gonna wait for my replacement credit card and grab some targus 180's off ebay... and pay twice the value on shipping.

 

What dillemma?

I have a W870CU.

 

Weren't you unable to decide between the W870 and the W860? It at least appeared that way in this thread a ways back.

 

I just did a doubletake on your post, HitokiriZ. I know what you're talking about now. That's way old news. I went with the W870CU because I was used to a 17 incher from my previous notebook, and that I can mod the W870CU a lot more than the W860CU.

 

Ahh I see, thanks. The only reason I ask is because I am in a similar position right now in trying to decide between the two and I was curious as to what you decided.

 

Both notebooks are stout. The W860CU is just a blocky plastic slate. The W870CU is the same thing, except that it just tapers out more at the front and sides to accommodate the footprint for the 17 inch screen while. Other than size, and size does matter, there are other fetches that makes the W870CU more desirable over it's smaller variant, but I'm sure you know that already since you read through most of this thread.

 

I got flashed to 1.00.13 and I may be premature, but it appears to have fixed the sleep crashes.

 

;] i just bought mine w8ing to arrive in coupla days

 

My notebook had sleep issues related to the display driver. I can't remember which ones specifically as it has been a while, but there were a lot of 19x.xx versions that produced this symptom for me. As for the 25x.xx drivers, 256.21 was rock stable and silky smooth, 258.49 gave me random BSOD's during regular use, and the current driver I am on, 258.69, is rock stable and even silkier than 256.21.

 

Hey guys, how bad is the trackpad?

 

That's good to hear. I'm running a radeon, so it could still be display related, but I'm using different drivers. I'm having other display issues though with cat 10.6, so I'm hoping sager releases an official version soon.

 

But it seems almost impossible that both card vendors experience the same sleep problems with different cards. Maybe it's the bios to blame. I had random BSODs on my M570TU when i was on 1.00.11 EC, but when I roll back to 1.00.09 bios with its EC, everything was fine. Maybe a BIOS update will give the solution to you JohnnyFlash.

 

Ordered it today:
17.3" 1920 x 1080 Full HD (16:9) LED Backlit GlassView LCD , Super-Wide Viewing Angles
Intel Core i7-620M Processor, 2.66 GHz, 4MB Smart Cache
6GB DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz - 1 x 2GB + 1 x 4GB
ATi Mobility Radeon HD 5870 w/1GB GDDR5 DX11
2x640/5400rpm GB SATA-300 (SATA II 3GB/s)
4x Max. Blu-Ray Reader/8x DVD崇/2.4X +DL Super-Multi Drive
Intel Ultimate-N 6300 Wi-Fi

Main reason I am used to have as security so mirrored raid and my current Fujitsu-Siemens has 17'' screen. The rest is not so important

 

I haven't had any BSOD's, the main issue is HDMI detection. It works fine if it's plugged in from boot, but as soon as I try to detect it, it says there's no screen attached. Detection worked fine with the sager 9.12's.

 

Are the extreme cpu's overclockable with the eleet tool still? Or does it only work with that unlocked bios?

Reading through this thread is confusing at times.

 

The latter.

 

Hello everyone, I have an issue with getting my eSATA connected hard drive to work.

Over an USB connection I can use it as normal, and if I connect it through eSATA I also see the serial number of the hard drive in the BIOS. But when I look in Windows 7 the hard drive can't be seen in My Computer, the Partition Manager and not in the Intel Rapid Storage Technology application.

In the BIOS, there aren't much more options than setting the SATA to AHCI as it should be, as RAID is not the way to go. I've tried things like switching the sides of the cable, using another cable, reboot with the drive connected at all times, shutting the drive down and back up, refreshing in the device manager and also in the Intel Rapid Storage Technology application, rolling back the drivers and installing the drivers again. And also some combinations of the previously mentioned attempts.

Now is my question: What am I doing wrong? Why won't the hard drive that does work through USB and does show in the BIOS when on eSATA just work? Does anyone have experience with this?

I'm using a Clevo W870CU.

 

Welcome to NBR Forums.
About your problem, when you connect the drive on e-sata after windows has boot, do you hear the characteristic notification sound? If yes, then you should try the device on e-sata on another computer. If not, maybe windows is to blame!

 

No, and you won't hear that anyway as I have read that there is no device notification for e-sata. You either boot with it or use hotplug when that is available. The device might work on other computers but I don't have any, as it shows in my BIOS I think the problem lies with Windows.

I wonder if there is any way to get it working with Windows 7 x64.

 

I'm going to order mine soon, just wanted to post my specs for my build to see what people think:

- No Xotic PC Gear
- 3 Year Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime -24/7 DOMESTIC Based- Toll Free Telephone Tech Support (Labor Warranty through Xotic PC)
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Warranty Repairs
- No Software Bundle
- No Office Software
- ~Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit Installed (64&32-Bit CD Included) w/ Drivers & Utilities CD's
- Full Size Black Aluminum Notebook Cooler - Dual Fans - USB Powered (For up to 17" Laptops)
- No External Keyboard or Mouse
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- None Standard*
- No Car Adapter
- 11.1V Smart Li-Polymer battery pack 3800mAh, 42.18Wh
- Basic Black Business Case - Included
- Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi ExpressCard 24-bit Sound Card
- No TV Tuner
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No Network Accessory
- Built-in 802.11 Wireless A/B/G/N - Stock Wireless Card
- Internal Bluetooth + EDR
- Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader (MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/MS Pro Duo/SD/Mini-SD/MMC/RS)
- No Floppy Drive
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- HDD Raid Settings - OFF
- None Standard -
- ~ 500GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)
- ~ 4X Blue-Ray Read/8X DVDRW Super Multi Combo Drive
- Standard Finish
- ~ 6,144MB DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS) (Requires 64-Bit to utilize Full 4GB)
- No Video Adapter
- No External Graphics Card
- ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD5870 1024MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11
- - IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
- Intel® Core™ i7-740QM, 1.73-2.93GHz, (45nm, 6MB L3 cache)
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- 17.3" FHD LED Backlit 16:9 "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright Glossy Screen (1920x1080)

Is the sound card worth the extra price? Or should I use that money to upgrade the cpu to an 840QM? Hmmm, or should I reduce the RAM to 4 GB, get rid of the sound card, choose the i7 740QM, and get a 500 GB HD primary, and a 80 GB SSD as a secondary hard drive?

 

840QM, no sound card, 4GB and you want 80GB SSD as the primary with the 500 as the secondary.

I would also recommend using a 5400rpm drive for the 500. It'll use less power and put less heat into the machine. That's just my preference though.

 

He won't see a big difference between 740 and 840QMs. Also the 740QM is a little cheaper. But I agree that you don't need a sound card or a really fast HDD. It's not worth the extra battery consumption. And 4GB of RAM are just fine, unless you want to download four files and gaming while benchmarking at the same time!

 

Well I just ordered mine!!! Cant waittt till it gets here. =D How long did it take to arrive for you guys? I have the standard UPS shipping.

 

New owners ordering with the new CPU's. Please post some benches on the new 740 and 840QM, and 940XM's, since these are shipping now...

 

it is a little bit dificult that anyone will buy such an expensive cpu as 940XM. So benchmarks will be rare. But I am really sure that this new monster will fly

 

Which benchmarking tools should I use?