*** OFFICIAL Sager NP8760 / Clevo W870CU Owners Lounge ***

Johnny, I have two HDDs installed in the notebook and it is barely warm! It is also very thick model so should be no problem with cooling! IMHO of course.

 

There is a variety. SEE THESE for a start..

 

3dMarkVantage and 3dMark06 are still the classics. Available everywhere, but perhaps most conveniently from their publisher: Futuremark - Download

 

Well just got my new Sager NP8760 from Xotpic out the door $1978
this is what I got

i7 840
Ice thermal compound
4 gigs ram
intel wireless 6300
Windows 7 premium
ATI 5870 card
HDD 500@7200

is this a pretty fair price???

 

Hey question will the 1tb hdd from newegg fit on the sager np8760? If not what is the fastest and biggest hdd I can put in the second hdd place on the laptop?

 

I paid for mine configuration 2100 USD from different company:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...0-clevo-w870cu-owners-lounge.html#post6444815

So I believe the price is reasonable. Assuming that you left the rest at default.

 

yes I did. you know what size hdd will fit in the second hdd location/

 

No, that's a 3.5" drive for desktops. You need a 2.5" internal drive for your laptop. The largest I am aware of is 640GB, but it is not fast (5400 RPM). Those drives are generally available as original equipment on Clevo/Sager 8760's and are widely available in the after-market.

 

A 5400 RPM disk is pretty slower than a 7200 one, but the last consumes more battery thatn the first. You should think :"Do I want more battery life or performance and really good read/write speed?"

For the benchmark question, basically in this forum the FutureMark products are the most famous, but you can also use FurMark Benchmark. You can also use FurMark to stress test your GPU, in case you didn't know.

 

Thanks 2.5 it is...

 

Do not forget to check whether you have installation mount (cage) in there to support second hard drive. Occasionally this comes at significant price, I am afraid.

Can I ask out of curiosity why did you ordered such powerful processor? It gives literally no/very little effect in the games in comparison with Dual Core processors, from what I have read.

 

read some good things about it also, I like power might upgrade to a extreme later. If I do I can get more money for the 840 than a 740 thats why..

 

WD just made a 1TB 2.5" laptop HDD.

Newegg.com - Western Digital Scorpio Blue WD10TPVT 1TB 5200 RPM 8MB Cache 2.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Internal Notebook Hard Drive -Bare Drive

 

Reviews are saying it's a bit thicker, so it may not fit.

 

Western Digital actually makes a 750GB 9.5mm drive @5400RPM that's been out for a bit of time: Newegg.com - Western Digital Scorpio Blue WD7500BPVT 750GB 5400 RPM 8MB Cache 2.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Internal Notebook Hard Drive -Bare Drive

 

Live and learn. I'd hate to use a 5200 RPM drive as an active drive. 7200 RPM drives sometimes seem painfully slow.

Thanks for the information and links.

 

With the memory computers have now it will be easily compensated IMHO, of course.

 

Actually, having experienced a SSD, even a 10k+ raptor feels slow now, and 7200RPM is just kind of painfully slow for me right now, simply surviving as the main drive until intel G3 arrives, and I'm going to switch with a 160gb SSD immediately.

 

I just bought one. It arrives in early august

 

"07/23/2010 Phase 2 (Sent for Custom Building / Testing / Burn In & Final QA) 3-7 Business Days. Hello! Your PayPal payment has cleared, and your order is being sent to production."

Mine was sent for custom building yesterday, but I know they aren't working on it this weekend, correct? How long does this process usually take, haha. I'm hoping it's the minimum 3 days, hehe. =P

Oh yeah, and here are my final specs:

1x Sager NP8760 (Built on Clevo W870CU) Custom Gaming Laptop
- Display: 17.3" FHD LED Backlit 16:9 "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright Glossy Screen (1920x1080)
- Dead Pixel Policy: Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- Processor: Intel® Core™ i7-740QM, 1.73-2.93GHz, (45nm, 6MB L3 cache)
- Thermal Compound: - IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
- Graphics Video Card: ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD5870 1024MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11
- External Monitor Video Adapter: No Video Adapter
- Ram: ~ 4,096MB DDR3 1066MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS) (Requires 64-Bit to utilize Full 4GB) -
- Exterior Finish: Standard Finish
- Optical Drive: ~ 4X Blue-Ray Read/8X DVDRW Super Multi Combo Drive
- Primary Hard Drive: ~ 80GB Intel X25-M Solid State Drive (SSD2 Serial-ATA II)
- Second Hard Drive: ~ 500GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache)~
- Raid: HDD Raid Settings - OFF
- External Hard Drive (Back Up): No Back Up Hard Drive
- Back Up Software: No Back Up Software
- Floppy Drive: No Floppy Drive
- Memory Card Reader: Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader (MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/MS Pro Duo/SD/Mini-SD/MMC/RS)
- Bluetooth: Internal Bluetooth + EDR
- Wireless Network: Built-in 802.11 Wireless A/B/G/N - Stock Wireless Card
- Wireless Network Accessories: No Network Accessory
- Camera: Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- TV Tuner: No TV Tuner
- Sound Card: Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- Case: Basic Black Business Case - Included
- Battery: 11.1V Smart Li-Polymer battery pack 3800mAh, 42.18Wh
- Car Adapter: No Car Adapter
- Spare AC Adapter: None Standard*
- Port Replicator / Dock / Adapters: No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Fingerprint Reader: Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- Mouse / Keyboard Accessories: No External Keyboard or Mouse
- Notebook Cooler: Full Size Black Aluminum Notebook Cooler - Dual Fans - USB Powered (For up to 17" Laptops)
- Operating System: ~Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit Installed (64&32-Bit CD Included) w/ Drivers & Utilities CD's
- Microsoft Office Software: No Office Software
- Software Bundle (Not Installed): No Software Bundle
- Warranty: 3 Year Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime -24/7 DOMESTIC Based- Toll Free Telephone Tech Support (Labor Warranty through Xotic PC)
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Warranty Repairs
- Xotic Gear: No Xotic PC Gear

 

Um, you know you can get the 1333MHz ram for no extra charge right? I mean you did get the quadcore. Call them up or send and email and get it changed.

 

Yeah but the difference isn't noticeable from what I've read? Even if it were, I was reading that only overclockers would notice the effect. I don't plan on overclocking at all.

 

Depends what you do with it. Heavy multi-tasking or programs that can use all 8 threads will notice an improvement. Gaming won't.

 

Why bother with QuadCore may I ask? Or you just thought it is the most optimum choice for money/performance?

Do apologize for not being eloquent enough.

What I meant is that there is very little difference between 5200 rpm & 5400 or even 7200 rpm, unless you have a lack of memory or an application intensively working with reading/writing on harddrive - such as video editing.

In most of the other cases - there is additional a few seconds delay while something is being loaded. Once it is in the memory - no difference.

While on the other side with 5200/5400 there is less cooling issues - hence less power consumption or reliability due to overheating the drive. IMHO, of course.

 

iirc 5400 and 7200 hdd drives have little difference in sequential reading, like when you play music or watch a movie.
but they will have a significant difference in randon reads like when you open a program.

 

YAY!!! Scheduled DELIVERY AUGUST 2nd!!!! WOOT!!! Only took like 3 days to build, niceeee.

 

Well just got mine in and it is awesome only thing I dont like the the mouse pad it right out sucks. Also, is there not a place when you can overclock everything like the asus have?

 

No, there aren't any overclocking features. The exception is if you have an XM and a specific BIOS.

 

So I just bought a used 8760 from PMcar99 off the forums and the thing is perfect except for one minor problem, I've installed 10.7 and it won't recognize the card. Device Manager shows VGA adapter and in the advanced settings on the Display menu it shows Standard VGA Graphics Adapter. Chip Type ATI ATOMBIOS and Total available graphics memory at 16mb.

When he sent the laptop he did a full clean wipe of the laptop so I reinstalled windows to it and made sure that it was fresh. I still can't get anything to recognize this ATI card for some reason.

Any help would be appreciated, thank you!

 

You may need the newer vbios for your card. The early vbios only worked with the clevo/sager drivers.

 

Anybody running SC2 on their rig, how's the performance?

 

I'm really curious about this to as I am getting my laptop on Monday and will buy SC2 that same day. =)

 

On my laptop with a resolution of 1920x1200 and with most of the stuff set at ultra I get around 30-40 fps. Considering the W870CU is better, I suppose you should get better performance then.

 

lower resolution to boot

 

Why? I am rather happy with what I get now.

 

No, he means that the W870 is lower resolution (16x9 screen so 1920x1080)

 

I have SC2 sitting here, but I can't install it till Wednesday. My wife bought it as a "B" day gift and she is forcing me to wait till then. You'll know before I do how well it runs.

I expect it should run pretty good though.

 

hi guys i want to know how often does sager updates its chassis?

sager np8760 was released in october 2009 right? so will we see any other update in sept or oct 2010? any news of it?

also do you guys think barebones will be usd 1000 for new model or will it be more? and about gpu i think they will have gtx 460m/ gtx 470m

sager np8760 is getting cheaper and cheaper so should i buy it now or wait for a bit thinner version with better cooling?

 

Same dilemma except Im looking at a $1499 HP Envy 17 at New Egg
Weight 7.51 lbs.
Other Features Kensington MicroSaver lock slot
CPU Type Intel Core i7 720QM(1.60GHz)
Screen Size 17.3"
Resolution 1920 x 1080
LCD Features Full HD HP Ultra BrightView Infinity LED Display
Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
GPU/VPU ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 1Gb DDR5
320GB + 320GB 7200rpm with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
Memory 8GB
Memory Spec 4GB x 2
Memory Type 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM
Slot-Loading Blu-ray ROM with SuperMulti DVD±R/RW Double Layer Support
LAN 10/100/1000Mbps
WLAN 802.11b/g/n WLAN
Bluetooth Yes
Video Port 1 VGA (15-pin) /mini-Display port/HDMI 1
Headphone-out/Microphone-in combo jack
Beats Audio and HP Triple Bass Reflex Subwoofer
Integrated microphone
Internal Speakers
Touchpad HP Clickpad with On/Off button
Keyboard Full-size backlit island-style keyboard with integrated numeric
Card Reader 5-in-1 integrated Digital Media Reader for Secure Digital cards, MultiMedia cards, Memory Stick, Memory Stick Pro, or xD Picture cards
Webcam HP TrueVision HD Webcam
Power
AC Adapter 120-watt AC adapter
Battery 6-Cell 62WHr Lithium-Ion Battery + 9-Cell 93WHr Lithium-Ion Battery

VS Sagar 8760 Intel i7 740/Radeon 5870.Single Drive No OS (I have Win 7 Ultimate) For around the same price.


The Envy forum is not nearly as troublesome as the Asus forum. They complain of heat and some asthetic issues.

I am really torn between these two units. The Envy has USB 3 which is nice for future considertions however I don't care for big Corps when it comes to service. I like that the Sager has two fans and an open bay for SSD in the future. I prefer ATI over Nvidia because of the throttling issues I have read about regarding Nvidia cards. That may not be an issue on the Sagers. It is strange the older Nvidia costs more than the Faster and newer 5870......The 5850 is about 11% slower...


Anyone have any ideas or suggestions? I know this is a Sagar enthusiast thread so i want to hear the benefits of the Sagar and resellers. (RK is the closest to me in South Carolina)

I am less about state of the Art than keeping the price under $1600.....Which is the better buy? Best bang for the buck.
The only "game" I really play is FSX which should be a benchmark as it is very hard to get good frame rates on today's machines and it has been out for many years now!

Thanks....

 

well my options

acer 8943g
hp envy 17
qosmio Q885 (USD 1099)
msi gt 760 upcoming
sager np8760

i will definately replace the proc to i5 540/560/580m or i7 620/640m

really waiting on sager and qosmio refersh and also msi gt 760
for me 5850 gddr5 is enuf or gtx 460m if they are late on releasing i really hope these laptops chassis will get sandy bridge and a 2.4/2.5 ghz sandy bridge will beat a 2.8 ghz i7 640m by default

 

Ugh, I'm in the same boat except I'm out of town atm and I KNOW it's sitting back at home waiting to be unboxed and eagerly installed....

Argh....

Seriously....

Argh....

Friday can't come some enough, lol..

 

My 8760CU will be here some time this week...

Second time i have owned this machine but its just to good a value to pass up especially the barebones for me ...

I really wanted the 480m model but just could not justify the extra $600.00 for the GPU ....

 

That was fast, Quad!
Did you order from RJ?

 

Nope i went through another reseller ... Its a secret though ...

Getting a barebones from this reseller is more of a favor then anything else since they dont do barebones ....

Not to mention they would strangle me if i did lol...

I really had my eyes on that Envy 17 im not going to lie but the issues that machine is having i know i would be regretting it 48hours after arrival.... With this i know what im getting since i already owned one....

I really wanted a beefier CPU but the 720 will have to do for now till i can find a better deal on an 840 or the like...

My last 8760 had the 920xm (ES though) and when it comes time to sell it just makes it difficult to move the ES machines and of course on here its not happening at all, so its OEM for now....

If i can find a sweet deal on a 940XM ES though i might have to cave ...

 

If you're not OC'ing the CPU, I don't see any reason for the extreme's. 840 should be on par with 920xm with 1-2 FPS difference in games, lower TDP and heat...

 

Yeah thats why i am shooting for the 840 as i dont plan to OC the CPU ...

Problem is the 840s are rather expensive at the moment and the 840 ES($348) are reasonable but its just dealing with the whole ES thing again i was trying to avoid...

So this should do for the moment (i hope) and if i can find a decent deal on an 840 ill bite maybe...

 

Actually that's a decent price for an ES. I owned many ES CPUs and the most I've lost from buying one and than reselling it one year later on ebay was about 50 USD. I would strongly suggest going for an ES now and in the mean time search for a good deal on an OEM CPU. From my experience, OEM CPUs perform a bit better ES ones.

 

I am going to toy around with the 720 for abit and if am not happy then ill be looking into the 840...

It is a decent price for sure and i doubt i would take a huge loss selling it if any... I like to be able to sell things here on NBR and when they passed the no ES rule everything changed including my interest in those CPUs...

An OEM would be great aside from the almost $600.00 price tag ...

 

Could someone with the BDRW tell me what the model number is?