The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
← Previous pageNext page →

    *** Official Clevo P150EM / Sager NP9150 Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Ryan, Apr 7, 2012.

  1. Support.1@XOTIC PC

    Support.1@XOTIC PC Company Representative

    Reputations:
    203
    Messages:
    4,355
    Likes Received:
    1,099
    Trophy Points:
    231
    That's interesting, I was under the impression all machines coming out of Sager have the new one, at least ours do. I'm not 100% on how Reflex is set up being a Canadian reseller though, I'd definitely say it's worth a shot to contact them and see what you can do.
     
  2. Understated

    Understated Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    54
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Thanks Derek. I wanted to confirm that I got the old keyboard before I contact them. Reflex have been pretty responsive and helpful with me so far so hopefully I can get this resolved.
     
  3. Support.1@XOTIC PC

    Support.1@XOTIC PC Company Representative

    Reputations:
    203
    Messages:
    4,355
    Likes Received:
    1,099
    Trophy Points:
    231
    Yeah I'm sure they'll be able to help you get set up. In the off chance that they tell you that you're out of luck you can always arrange an RMA with Sager directly and ask them to ship you a new version.
     
  4. ryohazuki1

    ryohazuki1 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Just wanted to come in here and say I'll be happy to be joining you guys as an owner of a NP9150 hopefully soon. I placed my order 2 days ago with Xotic PC for a fairly standard NP9150 with the 670MX and standard specs. My main thing was music production / recording since i have a desktop to max out pc games, and games on the laptop from med to high settings to pass time. I'm very excited as yesterday it went into Phase 2. I'm hoping it doesn't take long for me to receive it, I'm too anxious. :D
     
  5. Support.1@XOTIC PC

    Support.1@XOTIC PC Company Representative

    Reputations:
    203
    Messages:
    4,355
    Likes Received:
    1,099
    Trophy Points:
    231
    Congrats! PM your order information and I'll keep an eye on it for you.
     
  6. Matwithonet

    Matwithonet Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    8
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    I just got my NP9150 today, and was wondering after reading the past few posts, is there something wrong with the old keyboard? I just got this and the windows button is on the left...

    Sam

     
  7. Support.1@XOTIC PC

    Support.1@XOTIC PC Company Representative

    Reputations:
    203
    Messages:
    4,355
    Likes Received:
    1,099
    Trophy Points:
    231
    Nothing necessarily wrong with it, it was a hit or miss as to the keyboard quality for sure. You either got a good one or a bad one. If yours is working fine for you, that's great. If you have troubles though, contact your reseller and they should be able to set you up for an RMA.
     
  8. mickyyy

    mickyyy Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    142
    Messages:
    77
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    I wish my keyboard was on the left. Id also trade this SS for stock keyboard anyday, not having FN functions is killing me.
     
  9. CFree3344

    CFree3344 Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    68
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Hey Derek. Is the 4/9 ETA for the upgrade screen an actual date? I was thinking to order this weekend, but might wait a week or so if they are out of stock. Thanks!
     
  10. Understated

    Understated Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    54
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Mickyy, why do you want it on the left? And which is the SS keyboard?
     
  11. Understated

    Understated Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    54
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Nevermind. Steel series.
     
  12. mickyyy

    mickyyy Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    142
    Messages:
    77
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    On the left only because every keyboard I have ever used to date, except this new one, has always been on the left. So it is just the learning curve or it being on the right.
     
  13. Mana Cerace

    Mana Cerace Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    26
    Messages:
    168
    Likes Received:
    19
    Trophy Points:
    31
    I was under the impression that Win key on the left was the NEW keyboard, and the key on the right was on the older model. I read it here after asking directly because I wanted it on the left but the reseller in my country only had it on the right.
    Official pics of the machine have it on the right, which supports this - they were released early on.
     
  14. Support.3@XOTIC PC

    Support.3@XOTIC PC Company Representative

    Reputations:
    1,268
    Messages:
    7,186
    Likes Received:
    1,002
    Trophy Points:
    331
    They moved the Windows key to the right so you dont accidently hit it while gaming and you get kicked out of the game. Its uncommon but you can imagine how easy it could be to accidently hit it.
     
  15. Understated

    Understated Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    54
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Yup. That's exactly why I want to switch to a right win keyboard. I keep hitting the stupid win key when it's on the left.
    Hey mana, wanna switch? :)
     
  16. mickyyy

    mickyyy Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    142
    Messages:
    77
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Odd, I've never hit the windows key when on the left. I see how you could though.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  17. Understated

    Understated Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    54
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Well I still suck at shooters and get too excited when goes down and then my fingers go crazy and I hit the win key.
    I also have to disable the right thumb button on my Logitech mouse because I often hit that by accident and then it goes to application switcher.
     
  18. E.Blar

    E.Blar Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    193
    Messages:
    743
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Hey NBR. Haven't been here at all since ~August, apart from two times to ask about cleaning the fans. Still reading through the rest of the topic.

    Anyway, I'm back because I recently had a 256GB mSATA m4 appear out of the blue (college reasons), and I'm not 100% sure how to set it up. I've currently still got dual 500GB HDD's in RAID0, and I'd like to use the SSD as an OS drive, and use 256GB of my HDD's for backing it up, with the other 750GB remaining for storage. I've got a 1tb external drive at my disposal for this that's currently not doing anything. Could anyone point me to a good guide on how to do this?

    Also, that stock case that came with the laptop kicked the bucket recently and I'm in need of a new one. What other good, durable cases are there that fit this? I'd prefer to stay within $50-70.
     
  19. Support.3@XOTIC PC

    Support.3@XOTIC PC Company Representative

    Reputations:
    1,268
    Messages:
    7,186
    Likes Received:
    1,002
    Trophy Points:
    331
    For your set up you'll want to install the OS onto the mSATA drive then all programs and games if you want onto that. For backup it will probably be best to run a dedicated software program to do it. You wont want to RAID 1 it as the mSATA will always be waiting for the slower HDD to catch up. Partition one of the 500GB to 256GB then set up your software accordingly. The rest of the HDD will be just drag and drop backup.
     
  20. E.Blar

    E.Blar Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    193
    Messages:
    743
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    So I should partition one of the 500GB HDD's in half, and use one half for backup and RAID the other half together with the second 500GB HDD? I didn't know you could RAID HDD's of different sizes. Or can I keep them in RAID0 and partition that drive into 250GB and 750GB parts?

    Either way, it's great to see you just as active on here as you were back in April/June. Good job, Xotic.

    Oh... And for the last hour, I've been trying to install the SSD, but there's nowhere to put the screws that hold it in. One side is empty, and the other side has this thing blocking it that looks sort of like a capacitor with a screw in the top. I though this might have been a screw hole with one already in, but the screw seems to be part of it and is absolutely immobile. EDIT- scratch that last bit, I figured it out. I think. Is there anything special I need to do to see the drive now that it's in?
     
  21. Decoy101x

    Decoy101x Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    56
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    80c max temp with 99gpu usage in Crysis 2 for over an hour of play. I think this is normal. stock paste from prostar.

    but when i increase clocks to 850core 2200 mem temps max at about 87c. seems a bit high considering people have done 950core 2400mem and havent gone past 82 c. friend of mine suggested making sure the screws are tight on the gpu heatsink. maybe a repaste would be needed but i dont want to go through that crud
     
  22. ryohazuki1

    ryohazuki1 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Dreading weekends as I wait for my Sager to get through Phase 2. :( So anxious to receive this bad boy.
     
  23. Penguissimo

    Penguissimo Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    31
    Messages:
    47
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    This actually makes a lot of sense, thanks! The real question I have is why they added a second backslash key...
     
  24. Mikaelft

    Mikaelft Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    24
    Messages:
    289
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    When did they move the key? I bought mine last summer.
    The small "enter" key is annyoing :(
     
  25. smellon

    smellon Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    57
    Messages:
    450
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Can someone please post a picture of the "new" keyboard please?

    I believe I have the older keyboard with the Windows key on the left and just wanted to compare. So far though, I haven't had any issues with it. *Knock on wood*
     
  26. Mikaelft

    Mikaelft Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    24
    Messages:
    289
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Anyone have the newest drivers for webcam drivers for Windows 8?
    The camera is working fine in the metro app, but on the desktop skype the image is stuttering/flickering.
     
  27. xf0rgiven

    xf0rgiven Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    17
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    I only had my laptop for about a week and half and the windows key is on the left. Also the windows key is the windows 8 logo not the windows 7 loigo
     
  28. E.Blar

    E.Blar Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    193
    Messages:
    743
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    All of the pictures in Sager's gallery of notebooks with backlit keyboards have been updated to show the new one. Here: http://sagernotebook.com/images/products/9150_3.jpg

    EDIT: scratch that, I just noticed they don't. That's odd, a few months ago I was just looking at them...

    I really could use a word on what case would be good to buy quickly, as I'll be in town tonight and have a good opportunity to pick one up.
     
  29. Decoy101x

    Decoy101x Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    56
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    so i tried that foil mod to reduce heat as in crysis 2 i was getting up to 86c and i even saw 87c once. Played crysis 2 for over an hour after the mod and i saw the temp peak at 81c for a split second but it hovered around 78 - 80 for the most part. Im curious as to if ive used too much foil on the gpu and/or cpu. idle woudl be about 40c. I'm now seeing it at 36c

    [​IMG]

    i also made sure the screws on the gpu were tight. i found 2 of the screws had about two spins in them before they were confident tight (not Hercules tight)

    hopefully someone can put some insight in this as to if i've used too much foil tape or not.
     
  30. mickyyy

    mickyyy Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    142
    Messages:
    77
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Thats about how much I have used. I also used some on the sides of the gpu though to fill the massive gap inbetween the fan and the copper.
     
  31. Decoy101x

    Decoy101x Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    56
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    ah thanks. now a friend of mine with the same laptop and same setup has his 680m overclocked to 950/2400 and idles at about 40 and maxes temps at 79

    and yet im bone stock having to foilmod to get those temps. I really REALLY hope i dont have to repaste... as im not sure im willing to do that..
     
  32. Decoy101x

    Decoy101x Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    56
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    you talking about the little bit on the right not being covered?
     
  33. smellon

    smellon Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    57
    Messages:
    450
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Oh ok. I guess I actually have the new keyboard then? I have the Windows 8 logo on the left. It doesn't bother me nor has it caused any problems, I was just curious. Thanks though.

    That looks excellent. I really want to do this mod myself and it seems like you had some really good results. I'll aim to model mine after yours lol.
     
  34. mickyyy

    mickyyy Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    142
    Messages:
    77
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Yeah you can see the gap between the fan and the copper. I covered it as well to seal the hole with good results. Your mar vary of course.
     
  35. Decoy101x

    Decoy101x Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    56
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    my only concern is the fact i have a friend with the same laptop and components as I do...his temps with a 950core/2400mem are max at about 76c. even with my foil mod if i take the 680m to the current vbios limited overclock to 850core/2200mem i go up to 86c again (before foil mod that overclock would make me go to 89c. i quickly exited the game the second i saw that temp)

    so im thinking i probably have to repaste

    sigh...

    the current thermal paste i have is some basic $6.99 paste that looks like a syringe. should probably buy something better if i do want to repaste...man what a hassle..
     
  36. `Ghost`

    `Ghost` Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    98
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    15
    So I want to go to a small LAN party but noticed something alarming to me.. How to use my laptop lock. I see no ring or hole that most laptops have for security. I hope someone can help me with this.
     
  37. mickyyy

    mickyyy Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    142
    Messages:
    77
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Have you tried applying pressure to the four corners while benchmarking? That with a couple washers netted me 8c off my Max temp.


    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  38. nfshp253

    nfshp253 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    18
    Messages:
    608
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I'm quite interested in doing the foil mod but don't really know what I need. Is the foil just regular aluminium foil and how should I attach it to the gap? And do I just stretch it across the gap?
     
  39. Decoy101x

    Decoy101x Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    56
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    its aluminum/foil tape used for duct work.
     
  40. Support.3@XOTIC PC

    Support.3@XOTIC PC Company Representative

    Reputations:
    1,268
    Messages:
    7,186
    Likes Received:
    1,002
    Trophy Points:
    331
    There is a Kensington lock port on the back right side.
     
  41. mattcheau

    mattcheau Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    1,041
    Messages:
    1,246
    Likes Received:
    74
    Trophy Points:
    66
    [​IMG]
     
  42. ryohazuki1

    ryohazuki1 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Hey Hutsady,

    I was wondering if you or anyone else in here can chime in on upgrade prices for video cards with Xotic PC? I chose the standard 670MX option but if at some point I decide to upgrade to the 680M is there any pricing details or estimates as to how much something like that would cost?
     
  43. Support.3@XOTIC PC

    Support.3@XOTIC PC Company Representative

    Reputations:
    1,268
    Messages:
    7,186
    Likes Received:
    1,002
    Trophy Points:
    331
    Prices will fluctuate depending on when you get it as new parts come out the current ones go down. The latest prices i've heard from Sager were around $750-800 for the 680M.
     
  44. ryohazuki1

    ryohazuki1 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Decided to update my sig since I'm technically an owner, just haven't received my notebook yet. :p
     
  45. Support.3@XOTIC PC

    Support.3@XOTIC PC Company Representative

    Reputations:
    1,268
    Messages:
    7,186
    Likes Received:
    1,002
    Trophy Points:
    331
    Good looking signature :)
     
  46. mickyyy

    mickyyy Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    142
    Messages:
    77
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Just wanted to update.

    Got the new backplate from Sager today, but he forgot the screw. Not to big of a deal since I actually have an increase in temps with the forth side screwed down.

    New paste, foil, and washers and my 7970m hovers around mid to upper 70s while gaming. Should I be content and leave it? I'd really like to Max at 71 like before but don't want to break anything again.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  47. Decoy101x

    Decoy101x Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    56
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    plan to overclock? no? then i'd be content. if yes, see what temps are. i would be upset with anything past 80 with even a mild overclock
     
  48. mickyyy

    mickyyy Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    142
    Messages:
    77
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    For now no oc. Don't have a need to.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  49. BearsEATppl89

    BearsEATppl89 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    18
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    I have a question if anyone could help me

    I have order a sager np9150 almost a month from XoticPC. I have been waiting for them to get the Crucial 128gb msata in stock. They dont know when its coming in so i have basically decided to just buy the msata from somewhere else.
    Im looking to spend no more then$150 if possible. i want to be able to put the OS on it.

    Im looking at the Mushkin Enhanced Atlas Series 120gb or the Crucial 128gb. anyone know which one is better or have any ideas on any other brands?
    Since the slot in the computer can only read the sata II speeds is there actually any difference in the speed from the Mushkin and Crucial even though they have different read and write speeds?

    Thanks
     
  50. Mreurobeat

    Mreurobeat Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    So I've been doing my research for couple of weeks and now finally pulled the trigger. Bought from Xoticpc Check out my build. I will be mainly using my laptop for computer software, programming, and some gaming. I chose a SSD drive since I can't stand slow boot times and slow computer performance.
    Also is the standard keyboard the one with multy-colors and sectors like in this video?
    XOTIC PC - Sager NP9150 (Clevo P150EM) Video Review - YouTube

    Thanks

    Also I know that the model has been out for a while? Anything I should keep in mind? Any upgrades are absolutely necessary? Feedback is greatly appreciated.
    Glad to be joining Sager community.

    Products
    1x Sager NP9150 / Clevo P150EM
    - Free Shipping: FREE!!! – U.S. UPS GROUND SHIPPING (Use Coupon Code "FREESHIP" in Checkout) [U.S. Lower 48 ONLY / Restrictions Apply]
    - Current Promotion: SAGER Spring Sale!!! - $50 OFF When you spend $1350.00* or more per system! (*excludes non-sager parts, accessories, shipping, & taxes)
    - Display: 15.6” FHD 16:9 LED Backlit Wide screen (1920x1080) Super Clear Glare Type Screen (SKU - S1R319)
    - Dead Pixel Warranty: Standard Dead Pixel Policy
    - Monitor Calibration: NO Professional Monitor Color Calibration
    - Processor: Sager - 3rd Generation Intel® Ivy Bridge Core™ i7-3630QM (2.4GHz - 3.4GHz, 6MB Intel® Smart Cache, 45W Max TDP) (SKU – S2R174)
    - Thermal Compound: -Stock OEM Thermal Compound
    - Graphics Video Card: nVidia GeForce GTX 670MX 3,072MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11 with Optimus™ Technology [User Upgradeable] (SKU – S3R517)
    - Copper Cooling Upgrade: No Copper Cooling Upgrade
    - External Display Video Adapters: No Video Adapter
    - External Mobile Display: No External Mobile Display
    - Ram: 8GB - DDR3 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS) (SKU - S4S423P)
    - Branding: Sager Branding
    - Exterior Finish - Skins & Wraps: Standard Laptop Finish
    - mSATA SSD Drive ( Slot 1 ): No mSATA SSD
    - Primary Hard Drive: 256GB Crucial M4 Series Solid State Drive [SSD2 Serial-ATA III] (SKU – S5R062)
    - Optical Drive Bay: Combo Dual Layer SuperMulti DVDRW/CDRW Drive w/ Software (When selecting a Hard Drive in the Optical Bay, No Optical Drive is Included) (SKU - S7R455)
    - Optical Drive Bay Hard Drive Caddy: No Extra Optical Bay Hard Drive Caddy
    - External Hard Drive (Back Up): No Back Up Hard Drive
    - External USB Optical Drive: NO External USB Optical Drive
    - Bluetooth: Bluetooth Included *With select wireless cards only* (See “Wireless Network” Section Below)
    - Wireless Network: Sager - Built-in 802.11 Wireless B/G/N - Stock Wireless Card + Bluetooth™ v3.0 (SKU - S8R110)
    - Wireless Network Accessories: No Network Accessory
    - Memory Card Reader: Internal 9-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD/Mini SD/SDHC/SDXC/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo)
    - Camera: Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
    - TV Tuner: No TV Tuner
    - Sound Card: Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
    - Case: No Carrying Case
    - Battery: Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
    - Car Adapter: No Car Adapter
    - Spare AC Adapter: No Spare AC Adapter
    - Port Replicator / Dock / Adapters: No Dock/Hub/Adapter
    - Fingerprint Reader: Integrated Fingerprint Reader
    - Headsets: No Headset
    - Keyboard (External): No External Keyboard
    - Keyboard (Internal - Laptop): Standard Sager/Clevo Non Chiclet Backlit Keyboard
    - Mouse Accessories: No External Mouse
    - Notebook Cooler: No Notebook Cooler
    - XOTIC PC Redline Boost™ Extreme Performance: No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system (Overclocking will add 3-6 business days to build time)
    - OS Redline Boost: No Operating System Redline Boost
    - Operating System: No Operating System Standard - Drivers & Utility Software Only
    - ADDITIONAL SOFTWARE: None
    - Antivirus Software: No Antivirus Essentials Software Bundle
    - Back Up Software: No Back Up Software
    - Microsoft Office Software: - No Microsoft OFFICE Software
    - Software Bundle (Not Installed): No Software Bundle
    - Warranty: LIFETIME Ltd Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime 24/7 DOMESTIC Toll Free Telephone Support (Labor through XPC)
    Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Parts Warranty Repairs (SKU - X9R009)
    - The XOTIC PC Difference: * 24/7 LIFETIME U.S. based telephone technical support
    * Extreme QA testing by dedicated technicians
    * 72 Hour stress testing and benchmarking to ensure top performance and stability
    - Build Time: Standard Production Time
    - Outside of U.S. Shipping Coverage: No Outside of US Shipping Coverage
    - White Glove Premium Packaging: No thanks, standard double boxed packaging is okay with my order
    - Xotic Gear: No Xotic PC Gear
     
← Previous pageNext page →