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    *** Official Clevo P150EM / Sager NP9150 Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Ryan, Apr 7, 2012.

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    There were a few, you want the combined design where all three heatpipes go into a single piece.
     
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    So not this one? http://i.imgur.com/KmQskJg.jpg

    If I understand you correctly, the core and vram all go into the same heatsink? Not like it is right now, where they are individual pieces?
     
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    The SM-A looks like two separate pieces, did it vary by model or were there different possibilities for the same model?
     
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    That seems to be a CLEVO P370EM P370SM P375SM P370SM-A P375SM-A P377SM-A heatsink, would that also fit?

    Also, the ones I've found of those says Nvidia only, but my P150EM has a 7970m installed.
     
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    It will fit, but not sure what's the difference between nvidia and amd heatsinks.
     
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    Correct. Also make sure you close all the gaps between fan and heatsink fins so the air will only go throu it.
     
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    Great, I will do!
     
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    The pad layout was the main difference between the two heatsinks for AMD/Nvidia.
     
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    Just got the new GPU cooler, and the temps is at 70C full load.. much better than 104C! :)

    Anyway, now I have a new problem.
    I installed Windows 10 Pro x64, however when installing the newest driver from AMD, the screen goes to black, and only safe mode works after that. If I go into safe mode, and disable the 7970m in Device Manager, the machine boots fine, however after enabling it, it just hangs on a black screen after the initial Windows loading screen.

    I then reformated again, and tried installing the Intel Drivers first for the HD4000, then some older AMD drivers for the 7970m afterwards (15.6 Beta). And the machine booted fine into Windows afterwards... After a couple of reboots the black screen was back however.
    I've read numerous threads about some of these symptoms, however I can't seem to find a final solution to this.
    Has anyone had this happen to them, and did they fix it?

    Regards


    EDIT: Reinstalled Windows 7 and tried installing the newest driver to same result, a black screen. I then went ahead and baked the card for 10 minutes at 220C, installed it, applied new thermal paste, and that seems to have fixed it, drivers now install fine, and no more black screen! Only problem now is that Win7 hangs when shutting down.
     
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    Okay, last big question.

    I can't seem to figure out how to overclock the 7970m... Using afterburner and disabling ULPS makes it run at 300/150 no matter what I do, I enabled high performance mode in the "Additional Radeon Settings" for both battery and AC. In the "Radeon Settings" window, I can see the clock I dialed in with afterburner, but it is stuck at 300/150 when running Heaven :/ If I enable ULPS the clocks seemingly never changes, and the afterburner core and memory bar just resets back to 0... This is on Windows 7 x64 with the newest Crimson drivers.

    EDIT: Wattman allows me to adjust the core clock, but not the memory frequency...
     
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    IIRC I used a couple of different programs to be able to adjust each and then dialed in the settings I wanted with a BIOS flash. It was not ideal, things like the sapphire and asus overclocking tools.

    The sapphire one is worth a shot by itself.
     
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    How would I go about flashing the BIOS with my final clocks?

    EDIT: Went back to some older drivers, and Trixx now works perfectly. It was bluescreening before when applying clocks.

    EDIT2: Chugging along stable in BF1 at 1020/1550. I'll say that is a mighty fine result! :)
     
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    Hi All, my NP9150 I believe had the GPU die a while back. I was playing FarCry 3 and the computer shut off and BSOD on windows startup. After a few frustrating hours, I was able to get the computer stable again by using only the integrated graphics. What would the best course of action be? Replace the 7970M or upgrade to a better card? The prices of the GPU haven't really come down too much and I'm worried about the 7970M dying again.
     
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    Getting a new machine is the safest investment.
     
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    At this point it might be better to go with a new system. Reflowing has diminishing returns and a reliable replacement card is unlikely to be available.
     
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    I agree. Reflowing (baking) is risky, and a temporary fix at best.
     
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    Plus chips like the 1050ti are doing well against the old cards now.
     
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    And that's just comparing chips on paper (I think the 1050 beats the 7970M there as well). If you consider that a newer system will also have other newer features that were not available when the P150EM came out, the difference is even more pronounced.
     
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    Thanks for the advice guys! That does seem to be the best bet right now. At the very least, the computer still works as a heavy basic laptop.
     
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    If you can find an old 560M or something for cheap you could at least having up and running as a full basic machine.
     
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    Hi All, i am after your wisdom here.
    Last night during a gaming session, my game shut down and I got messages that my Nvidia Display Adapter had failed but recovered. My laptop completely froze shortly after.
    Upon restarting, 10seconds into loging in, I received a blue screen with the following technical information:
    *** STOP: 0x00000116 (0XFFFFFA8013C844E0, 0xFFFFF880047C00A4, 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000002)
    *** nvlddmkm.sys - Address FFFFF880047C00A4 base at FFFFF8800467A000, DateStamp 58ae921c

    I searched google and found that it may be a driver issue, so I cleared the drivers and installed fresh to no avail.
    Then I decided to format and do a clean install using the newest Nvidia drivers, same thing again...
    So i formatted again, this time installing the original Nvidia drivers from my driver disk, same blue screen...

    I have resorted to using the iGPU and removing all Nvidia drivers to keep my system running for now.

    Does this mean that my Nvidia GPU has failed? or have i completely missed something?
     
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    It likely does mean the GPU is dead yes.
     
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    Thanks for your response. I have arranged today for a replacement card.
     
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    Does anyone here know how thick the thermal pads are for the 7970m?

    I have a P151em NB and would like to put new ones on my GPU's vRAM and vrm's. Does this even make sense or should the stock ones still be sufficient?
     
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    My 7970 just blue screened on me.

    the computer wont start unless i disable the gpu. when i do this however the dedicated hd 4000 doesn't seem to word 100% ( aero doesn't work, league of legends doesn't work
    there is a bunch of trails when dragging windows. the screen color is very blue now etc.)

    I assume the GPU is done for, from reading some other posts ive seen on here.

    I will likely be getting a new laptop but still is there anyway to use my laptop with just the integrated intel hd 4000.

    would swapping out the 7970 for another gpu make sense on this machine?
     
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    Swapping out the 7970 would make sense but your laptop seems to have another problem with the integrated gpu or the screen itself.
    The HD4000 should handle aero wothout any trouble and generally everything should appear normal while you are on the windows desktop.

    If I were you I would:

    - open up the computer
    - remove the 7970
    - clean it
    - bake the 7970 (google it)
    - put it back in
    - remove dust from the heatsinks
    - repaste cpu & gpu
    - put new thermal pads on the vRAM & VRMs of the 7970
    - format your drive and do a fresh install of windows 10 with the latest drivers (you might have to install the new graphics driver from AMD in safe mode because of ULPS)

    If after doing all that the 7970 still doesn't work I would suggest you just swap it out.
    If also the integrated HD4000 still doesn't work correctly then, I would get a new Laptop.
     
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    If you can find one that's in working condition. Baking is a temporary solution, so while it can extend the life of your card, beware any used ones you find, because they may have just been baked so they work initially.
     
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    Not really temporary...the last GPU I baked was a Radeon HD4850 and after baking it, it kept working for two more years. After that I swapped it out for a GTX470, but it still worked, might even still work today, don't know.
     
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    Impressive, I'm more used to 6-8 months at the best, with diminishing returns with each successive reflow.
     
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    Usually when people bake cards in an oven they don't bake hot enough to melt and reflow the solder. This often fixes the card temporarily anyway though because the heating without pressure from a heat sink causes the card to straighten out and the broken solder connections to come in contact again.

    I've found simply heating a failing card in an oven to around 230C to permanently fix it around 3/4th of the time. The card will be discolored after, but will probably work.
     
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    Turkey roasting temperature!
     
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    Hopefully not at the same time.
     
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    Amazing!

    I've started to research the points you've made here.

    I had the same thought about the hd4000, it should be powerful enough to run areo etc. The np9150 runs through with the switchable gpus, and always was a bit of an issue, so maybe it's something to do with that??

    In either case i will get to work on it see what happens.

    Thanks for the help, at least i have some hope it may get back up and running.
     
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    hello. can I use the quadro k3000m to a clevo p150em or only the 3000m?
     
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    We support in P150EM the following Quadro cards: K3000M K4000M K5000M and 5010. We added recently support for GTX 1060 and 1070. It is possible that we support P3000 and P5000 too.
     
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    thank you for your answer and your time.
     
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    Good evening!
    I have a question about upgrading CPU on p150em.
    I've tried to use 3840qm instead 3610qm (original) and couldn't power on my laptop. And I try to understand why it doesn't work with 3840qm.
    I have v 17 from Eurocom bios.

    Thank you for your attention. I will be glad to hear any answer!
     
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    It should work, either there is an issue with your installation (did you fully tighten the lock?) or the part is dead.
     
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    But it looks pretty beatiful and without any damages. If problem can be only in that area - probably it is dead of course.
     
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    Are all the pins ok?
     
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    Like a new one. You know without dark places on crystal , with all pins(they are not damaged or anything else). I'll try to reset cmos maybe it will be helpful. And thank you :)
     
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    Likely just bad silicon then :(
     
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    did you fix the problem? I have a i7 2960xm and I want to put it on a p150em with prema bios, but I have black screen
     
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