Monitors that cannot meet a buyer's minimum requirement is the definition of "lower quality". What minimum requirement you set is up to you. Do you want a monitor to be brighter near the top and dimmer near the bottom? If yes, that monitor to you is not of "lower quality". Basically, it's subjective.
Calibration will often drop the brightness. Monitors made for consumers are often set to be super bright. Probably to catch one's attention.
I calibrated my Desktop's monitor and was pretty surprised when everything looked so damn dark. A few days later, I adjusted and now I cannot stand the uncalibrated view!
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The review you linked to says the P157SM " The 1080p display is nothing short of amazing and in fact uses the same Lenovo B156HW01 V4 panel as found on the high-end MSI MS-16F2 barebones and ThinkPad W530 workstation. Subjectively, texts are crisp, colors look deep and the screen is free from the screen door effect that can often be found on budget notebooks."
But then they show what seems like a significant brightness difference going across the screen. I looked at thier sample screen shot and didn't see any brightness differences across the screen.
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Again, what you find as "acceptable" may be "unacceptable" to others.
If you're doing work for a multi-billion dollar company, then of course you're going to want/need the best of the best.
If you're doing work for pennies on the side, it doesn't really matter which one you get.
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Just ordered my NP8255 with an 8970,Can't wait. Hope Pro-Star ships it fast
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Did anyone ever figure out if the 157 (8255) runs cooler than the 150 (8265)? And if not is there actually any difference at all between the 2 other than the extra vent on the bottom and the look?
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P150SM has one less 7mm HDD/SSD slot.
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I just noticed that. I wonder if that is worth the 100 or so bucks it costs over the same spec'd 150. I guess if it is cooler (temp wise) and has the extra drive slot that might be worth it for me.
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another question. Is the Samsung 840 pro 256 gig ssd not mSata compatable? I noticed that it was not an option for either of the mSata slots. Is mSata faster than the other drive slots? Reason I ask is that the 840 pro seem's to be the fastest ssd I can find (within reason price wise).
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So I guess I should have Googled that first. I see that mSata is a smaller form factor, what I can't seem to find is is it also faster?
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Both use the same controllers and chips, mSATA can't fit as many so some drives are a little slower. Ones like the intel 525 and m500 will perform like their bigger brothers though.
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mSATA and SATA are the same speed wise, assuming the same version of SATA, i.e. SATA III, which is on the latest Clevos.
Speed differences are more a specific model issue than the interface. In fact the interface is pin for pin the same, just a size/spacing issue.
Here are some benchmarks. Real-World File Transfer Tests - Round-Up: 10 mSATA SSDs From Adata, Crucial, Mushkin, And OCZ
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hello im currently new here, and i just recently purchase clevo p150sm, did any of you have a built in mic prob?i try to use it during skype and playing game online, but my voice cant be heard, if any of u have solve the problem, can any one share with me?
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same problem here, i sounded via the internal mic like speaking inside a swamp
fiddled around with the settings for days and ended up buying a cheap microphone from zalman for like 8 bucks and now it's all fine
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Support.3@XOTIC PC Company Representative
mdnoor88, does yours mic work at any other time, you may want to check your recording devices to make sure the mic is set to default.
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in all apps it sounds that bad and it is the right ic selected in the settings. maybe there is something like a foil or so over the mic, which the assembly guys forgot to pull off???
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
It tends to pick up a lot of typing noise due to the position anyway, much better off with a headset (this goes for all models made by anyone really).
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BTW, we are starting to see mechanical 7mm drives. Toshiba Intros 2.5-inch 7mm 7,278rpm Hard Drives
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Do any of you know what Mythlogic offers to warrant the 165 dollar difference between them and xotic for a Identical speced 157sm?
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Each reseller will decide how to price their machines based on their costs involved.
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Okay, so is there anything to do to stop the hard drive from shutting down? Even when I change the power settings to never shut down, it still takes a while before apps start to load up. Or do i have to send it back? The last one is a final option because of needing it for college.
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I understand that. I was just wondering if there was anything I had missed comparing the 2.
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It was a little more than the Xotic (but I don't think 165 bucks) but at this point I have no regrets. Xotic is obviously a great reseller but I think Mythlogic adds a little more personal touch since they actually build the machine on site. And boy am I going to feel stupid if my very first statement turns out to be wrong.
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Man oh Man !! It sure is nice to be right for a change.
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thanks for the reply's guys, with a couple of upgrades it turned out to be 165 dollar difference (which I guess when you are talking about 2225$ isn't that huge of a difference. Sorry if I am asking too many shopping type questions in this thread meant for owners of these machines. After quite a bit of research I found (I could be wrong) that the 8255-s/157sm (with a few upgrades) is just about as much power/storage space as I am going to find under 3-4 grand. and I figure the best place to ask about these is in a forum full of people that own them.
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edit: found out what was happening. Bitdefender had some major update but never told me to restart. Once I went into bitdefender(it finally told me to restart then) and then restarted through there everything is back to normal. -
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Hi guys, it's me again. Previously on my posts I had some terrible and random BSODs regarding my system setup whenever I add additional RAM on top of my P150SM 8GB initial configuration. I installed Windows 8 thinking that the troubles will go away since this is the supported operating system (based on the drivers from Clevo). However,
turns out I still have the same problem.
Just to be really sure that the additional 2x4GB RAM I bought is not faulty, I decided to move the two modules on my other laptop and did not encounter any issue. I did some research and there must really be some issue with the timings. I found a post at overclock.net stating the exact symptoms that I had and what he did to resolve the issue was to reset the BIOS to factory settings by adjusting some jumpers. Can this similar procedure be done also for the P150SM and how would be the process? Thanks! -
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You can reset the CMOS by unplugging the battery.
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Is it easy to access the CPU if for example I want to reapply thermal paste?
Is it possible to change the thermal paste for the GPU?
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So I got a P157SM model from cyberpowerpc (US) recently, and everything appears to be in working order, except for the backlit keyboard. For some reason, when I boot into Windows it just goes off and no amount of messing with the hotkey / backlight menu will make them come back on. The only way I get them back is if I shut down the PC (not even a restart will bring em back), and that's only during the booting process anyway. Anyone have any idea why this is happening? It's not a big enough problem for me to bother returning it, but it does kinda annoy me..
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I see.. Good to hear. Still pondering whether to do it myself and risk damaging something or let them do it. I do want to open and see whats inside myself though
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It is a very good idea to know how to take apart a Computer and be able to re-paste because it is something that should technically be done a maintenance.
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Hey guys! Question for y'all. The only really "bad" thing that reviews tend to say about these (and other) Clevo notebooks, is how loud the fans are. Is it easy to install a utility to manage the fans a-la TPFanControl that I currently use on my ThinkPad? Or through the BIOS? I realize all things considered, it's probably not a huge deal, but I still would like to know if the fan noise can be better managed.
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I want to believe you that it's not that bad, but I was watching this video and it sounds like a vacuum cleaner is running in the background...
This is literally the only thing keeping me from pulling the trigger on this laptop.
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I watched that video. It does sound pretty loud to me. I guess there are louder ones, but that doesn't make this one quiet. After the eight minute video, it seemed so quiet after stopping the video. I can only assume he had the sound turned up so he could hear it. The fan noise was competting with the game noise.
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Typically the fan profile has been adjustable even with an unlocked bios since it's part of the EC.
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