*** Official Clevo P157SM-P150SM / Sager NP8250 Owner's Lounge ***

So the fan speed is adjustable? I'm not an expert on this stuff. I am also interested in more information on this Primo BIOS that was mentioned.

 

It's Prima by the way and since the EC is usually written in very low level type and custom code it's very difficult to work with usually.

 

Yea, I already tried this...thanks for the suggestion though. I guess the issue will remain a mystery. :/

 

Sorry I know that, I didnt know I put an "o" was on my tablet... sorry.
So everyone know is Prema and here is the site
http://biosmods.wordpress.com/

And yes it is in low level code and is very intricate because there at that hardware level it is easy to brick. I do a good amount of low level code in VHDL and Verilog for school and it is very tedious at times .

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Considering how these laptops are meant to be disassembled and serviced, is it possible that the fans could be replaced with different, quieter, aftermarket units? Or are fans specific to the chassis?

 

so trying to save myself a little big of money here. Would I notice much difference between the intel 4800 and 4700 cpu's? everything I am reading says that even though the benchmarks show the 4800 a fair ammount faster that with normal photoshop/lightroom processes that I would not notice any difference at all unless I had some script set to run for like 24 hours. is that true?
because for 185 bucks I want to see some differnce

 

I wouldn't worry about it too much personally. It helps out in the SLI 780m setups but in a single GPU the 4700 should be just fine for you and any performance difference wouldn't be noticeable in day to day usage.

 

In single threaded work, there is a bit of difference. In multi threaded work there isn't any.

 

Any students in here? I was thinking of getting a P150SM for school so I can game on the side but I've heard that the fans are too loud for lectures... any truth to that?

 

It's all going to be personal preference and what you're comfortable with. I know I've been sitting in class and sounded like there was a turbine winding up behind me with some of the machines people were carrying around, but noise doesn't prevent you from using it. These machines are nowhere near what I'd consider too loud to use in classes, but ultimately it's going to depend on the environment which you're going to know best. Here at UNL, there is far worse than what this machine generates especially under low load like you'd be doing in class.

 

As I understand it, when just taking notes the fan should be at a low speed. So much quieter than when gaming. With that said, it is a big computer, and the battery life is about four hours as I recall, and it is heavy. You may think about getting a thin and light notebook or tablet just for school.

 

Ill be receiving my P150SM from HawkForce.de in about a few hours. Ill do a tiny little review for you guys to let you see how hawkforce ships this guy

 

I have the 150sm and honestly its not that big. It is bigger than a small notebook but in all honesty my math book is bigger and heavier.... Its 7 pounds and the size of a hardback college book, well about the same.

For loudness the fans do spin up randomly to high speed even when idling under 45 degrees Celsius but its quick and goes back to low speed within a couple seconds, and its not that loud. Battery life, yesterday I lasted a whole 3 hour lab on high performance doing MATLAB simulations and still had about 35-40% left which is great to me. This is with an 8970m with the enduro that likes to turn on and off when it feels like it.

Temps: maybe its the IC diamond thermal paste but this laptop stays insanely cool when idle and when playing games. Monitoring the temps during unigine heaven it never went over 75 degrees Celsius.

This is my 3rd gaming laptop in 2 months trying to find the one that is right for me and this one is the winner, I am sending mine back to get a 780m though because my graphics card seems to not be working correctly, it randomly just shuts off and switches to Intel HD tried multiple drivers and clean windows installs to no avail so I'm just going back to nvidia.

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Thanks for clarifying that, Cavell219.

 

Can't you just turn off the auto switch in the CCC?

 

I wish it was that simple. No you can't. Only on alienware because it requires a modified bios.

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Hi i would really be interested in what temps people are hitting with the 8970m.
im worrying mine(p170sm) is a bit hotter then it should be going up to 80C with A-MX4 and U3 cooler on max playing games like Bioshock infinity.

 

I dont know if im doing anything wrong or that the temp messures are just wrong, but Im getting 100ºC temps playing Firefall on High settings 1080p on my P150SM with a 8970M.... isnt this wayyy to high? But the air coming out of the fan isnt even that hot, I have another laptop with a GT 650M wich goes as high as 70ºC and the air coming out is wayyyy hotter.... any help?

 

That's a bad signal. Something might be wrong in your cooling pipeline.

 

Or the temperature is meassuring wrong since when the dGPU is off, afterburner registers 0ºC flat all time...

 

Mine usually hovers around 75C. Depends on the temp of the room you are in and maybe try raising the laptop with a deck of cards or something(heard it is sometimes better than a cooler). That has proved itself very useful for keeping mine around 75C.

 

It should register 0C when the dGPU is off. It does the same for mine. 100C temps is a problem. It could be the measurement issue but I wouldn't count on it. I have a P157sm so my temps will be different but if you can get someone with a P150SM then you can test to see if it really is the measurements being off or if is a cooling problem.

 

I just tried playing LoL with no overclocking on all very high and got 60 fps as it should, but still goes till 100ºC with barely 40% gpu utilization. Im guessing its really the messurement since im also using 13.10 Catalyst Beta

 

I think your heatsink is not making good contact with the GPU. So the heatsink doesn't pull the heat like it should, so it isn't getting hot, so the air blowing through the heatsink is not getting warm or hot.

I would press down on the GPU to see if it is loose, or damaged. Then repaste and reseat it.

BTW, based on the temps poll, it looks like one person may have had high temos because of a defective heatsink. He/she is still testing, but it seems temps dropped when changing heatsinks. They had already repasted, so it wasn't that.

 

Ill take the back apart to see if thats the problem. Would like that to be it

 

Also check the thermal pads are sitting correctly and are not folded at all.

 

Im not sure what the thermal pads are, are they like rubbery black pads sitting on top of the heat sink? Ill upload some photos on a bit

 

Ok so since i cleaned the gpu and tightened some screws, the temps have gone down a lot, now max 85C and gpu usage doesnt go to 99% on any threshold, insted it goes to the percentage it should to, but now the drivers (fking AMD -.-) go power saving on all programs even though they are on high performance, the dGPU doesnt go on until i click again on high performance and apply it again...

 

Did you take the heat sink off the GPU? Did you repaste it? How eaxactly did you clean it? The drivers shouldn't have changed from just opening. Did you change or update the driver?

 

I'm thinking about buying one of these but I need to know something first. How long will this thing last on a charge for browsing the web if it has an AMD 8970?

 

The thermal pads are used to connect the memory on the card and the chips about it to the heatsink, they are soft and squidgy.

 

I sat through a full 3 hour lab running matlab simulations brightness close to maximum and even on high performance. I left the lab with i believe upper 30% in battery left. I was very impressed.

 

The AMD and Nvidia get similar battery life The cards both unpower when not in use.

 

What speed is supported by mSATA ports, 3Gbps or 6Gbps ?

 

They are all SATA III.

 

Yes since intel added more gen 3 ports to the chipset no reason not to. Previous gen machines could only have 2 gen 3 ports.

 

i just removed the back-plate to see if anything was of.
also i pressed down a bit on the gpu heatsink and tried to tighten the screws more.
they didn't seem to move at all.

but after doing so my temps in biohock have come down from 77-80 to 74-76.
so a good tip for anyone for a quick fix
bare in mind still with a u3 cooler though.

considering changing the paste just to see if i can hit that 72-75 mark i like so much

 

Just don't make it worse lol.

 

74-76 sounds great, considuring some hit 93C when stressing the laptop.

 

I hit 90 or more when stressing XD

 

How's the build quality of the the P150sm? Also how loud is it?(with a 8970m and 770m)

 

My P150SM feels really solid. Personally I am very impressed with the build quality, There is almost no flex in any of the chassis. The hinges on the screen also feel really solid. As for noise, I got the 780M and it is really not that loud. The wall mounted AC in my dorm room is much louder.

 

Agree 100% I love the build quality. Feels much better then my ge70. The soft touch is comparable to Asus ROG series. It just doesn't attract fingerprints as bad as Asus does.

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Which model is that? What are using to stress it?

 

I have a p150sm with a Nvidia 780, and for some reason my laptop says the integrated graphics is connected to the display. Does anyone know how to make the dedicated card take over the laptop display. This is not really a problem as much as it is an inconvenience. The nvidia control panel is missing almost all the options (3d vision, surround, etc.) and looks like this.



Does anyone else have this issue/know how to fix it?

 

The Intel GPU is always on. The Nvidia will send output to the Intel GPU, so it can display it. So that sounds normal.

As for them missing options, I assume this is because you don't have a compatible dispkay for 3D, and surround needs at least a external display. But I don't have this model, so can't confirm.

 

Well, got pissed off and I got tired of ting around and went ahed and repasted it, and Oh, the temperatueres when down to 65°C (previously 99°C) when stressing with 3DMARK11, the guy from hawkforce must have used shtty paste. I used a Nox one from my local store. Bad part? I broke 2 screws from the X-Bracket XD. THOSE LITTLE GUYS ARE SMALL AS HELL, they break like they were toothpicks. Ill have to order spares the next time i want to repaste..., and drill the broken parts off the card, since they got stuck there.

Sorry got language

 

WOW, that was a huge drop. They must have really messed up.

 

Got the replacement laptop today... missing the Wifi card LOL! What the fk Sager...

 

Sager direct or was this a dealer? Yep, pretty big mistake. Well, at least you can install it yourself when they send it.