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    *** Official Clevo P157SM-P150SM / Sager NP8250 Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by HTWingNut, Jun 1, 2013.

  1. CoolPrizes

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    Sager via XoticPC
     
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    That's why I'm afraid to RMA again. They sent my laptop back with rattling inside. Apparently, the brittle screw holes on the case fell off and they just sent it to me like that...I ended up just asking them to send me that specific part (the top case with the palm rest) and I'd put it together myself. Was afraid something else would break if I sent it back. And replacing that top case was harder than I thought. At least I know it's done right with no plastic ripping off the case since I did it carefully myself.
     
  3. CoolPrizes

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    :p

    I actually asked for a refund so I could place a new order.

    Did you have to send the old part back? :p

    There's actually a "dent(paint chipped off)" on a certain area of my keyboard... (visible when using at certain angles)

    Sure, I could probably fix that part myself, but I don't know... Having a spare keyboard could be useful :p
     
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    No I didn't send it back. It's sitting in my laptop box lol. I could send it back if they want but I'm not paying for shipping. But I don't think it's even usable. One of the screw holes are gone. Two of those fell off my laptop but I'm not even sure if both of them were on this part of the case. But I couldn't find where the other one came from. But as long as I'm not hearing any rattling, I guess I don't care.

    Though, I can't complain too much since they did give me the motherboard swap I wanted free of charge for the mSATA fix. And their tech support guy responds fast.
     
  5. Support.1@XOTIC PC

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    @Coolprizes: Just shot you a reply to your PM asking for further clarification. Just need to make of how you determined the part was missing as the OS wasn't selected as an option for the build and likely that the drivers were just missed for installation when you did so. Pretty rare for Sager to miss a piece of hardware to be installed.
     
  6. CoolPrizes

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    I actually noticed the wifi card wasn't there after I swapped out the stock ram.

    Off topic, but yeah: Sager used 1.35v Kingston valueram for my laptop (8gbx2) :eek: Just a little FYI for those wanting to add more ram and you want the ram to match.
     
  7. tlprtr19

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    Nothing to fix. As some have pointed out, Intel graphics drives the ports; not your discrete graphics. If I'm right you can connect upto two displays.
     
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    Just to be sure, the P15*SM machines can work with both 1.5V and 1.35V RAM, right?
     
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    No, the vram is always 1.35V, if you put 1.5V ram in you are gambling it can do the stock speed at 1.35v.
     
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    For followup, got in touch with Sager and arranged card to be shipped out to customer.
     
  11. CoolPrizes

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    Thanks! :)
     
  12. deribas

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    Mine came from Mythlogic with 1.5v Kingston HyperX 1866, now has Corsair Vengeance 1.5v 1866. Works just fine at the rated speed.
     
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    Wooo, my wifi card is arriving tomorrow (Friday)!
     
  14. cavell219

    cavell219 Notebook Evangelist

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    Awesome, I'm waiting for my laptop to come back from prostar 8970 was having issues so I'm just upgrading to the 780, the issues gave me justification to spend the extra money :)



    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4
     
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    Welcome to the 780 club :) I'm sure you will enjoy the speed :D
     
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    Anyone else having blackscreens when overclocking the HD 8970Ms GDDR5 VRAM? I got even to 8100 in 3DMARK11 only overclocking the core, but even when I try to move the VRAM clock a liitle bit, it goes black and I have to shut down pressing the power button. Any help?
     
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    The 8970M is limited on what can be overclocked since its essentially an overclocked 7970M.
     
  18. pilililo2

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    But I cant even budge the Vram clocks not even 10mhz, but the core clocks i can even go up to 1100mhz!
     
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    think im going nutz!
    whats the deal with AMD drivers?
    ive always had Nvidia before and new drivers have installed like a charm.

    been running the original clevo drives with no problem, but seeing the new official 13,9 drives i felt like updating.
    removed the old drives try to install the new ones, catalyst install manager fail... ok try 13,10, same .

    install the clevo drivers, no prob.
    try to install new drivers over them, same .

    what am i doing wrong here?
     
  20. cavell219

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    Yeah I can't wait. Couldn't stand the issue of my 765m playing games better than my 8970... It just doesn't make sense lol.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4
     
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    I might get an Eurocom X3 , based on p157sm in the near future. I'm a bit afraid of all the horror stories I'm reading around here though. :)
     
  22. dolce.vita

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    horror stories? I don't get there are at max 5-10% people having some kind of issues (already including minor issues and stuff which is caused by the user and not by the notebook itself) u guys have to keep in mind, that in forums lile this, prople wgich some kind of issue are posting and all the ones which are more than happy with their notebook (in my case the p150sm) don't poste here. so maybe I should do it and let u guys know, that the p150sm is sturdy, awesome product quality and goof materials used (rubberized case) and so on. as I installed win 7 I used the win 7 drivers which u can find on the sager and the mysn (schenker) website. the temperatures even after hours and hours of playing dota2 never exceeded 68 degrees at the cpu and 72 degrees at the gpu. in bf3 tge temperatures were of course a bit higher (cpu 75 / gpu 83) overall I am perfectly fine and happy with the notebook
     
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    sorry for the typos wrote from my phone while walking :p
     
  24. pilililo2

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    Those temps are actually high, I was getting gpu up to 99C without oberclocking, so I repasted, and now i dont get more than 75°C GPU, (8970M) and 61°C (4700QM) both overcloked, gpu to 1000mhz core, and cpu to one core 35x and multicores 34x. And my notebook wasnt even a week old -.-
     
  25. CoolPrizes

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    So I installed Windows 8, and went to the start screen, blah blah blah. Then I said to myself: Where the fk is the shut down button?! Epic Fail. >.<

    Installed/Purchased Start8 right after that. Much better :D

    But yeah, Clevo has the left windows key wired internally as a "right windows key"... Weird.
     
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    So is anyone experiencing slow wifi initialization during startup (Windows 8)?

    My 7260 decides to finally connect to a wifi hotspot after everything loads during startup...

    It's annoying because steam keeps on coming up saying it couldn't connect, and when I click retry, I have to log in with my password even though I clicked "Save password"... >.>

    EDIT: So I left it on the lockscreen for about 30 seconds... Wifi connects 25 seconds after logging in, just enough time to avoid that steam connection error...

    I guess my boot up is too fast... I doubt it. I think it's a bug. :/
     
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    Mine takes a while to connect and for enterprise connections I always have to re enter my credentials.. 7260 also.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4
     
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    75C is great, but whith what games?
    sure if its 75C crysis 3 your talking about, its awesome.
    but a game like L4D2 will put me around 68C while bioshock infinite will go to 81C.
     
  30. pilililo2

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    Not in game, but stressing on 3DMARK11 .On LoL it barely goes to 60C and Firefall on allvery high goes up to 73°C
     
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    We have seen a few high temps. And so far it seems repasting solved it, or ordering a new heat sink solved it. (See the 780M temps thread for details on the heat sinks).

    Makes me wonder about QC.
     
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    Yup, repasting solved my problem totally. Bad part is that i broke 2 screws. Might have to order replacements next time i want to repaste.
     
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    then that's extremely good.
    what thermal paste did you use, how much and what application method?

    I didn't want to believe mine had a bad paste job, since i paid extra for MX4 and ordered from pc specialist uk which has a great rep.
    but with your results one cant afford not to try a repast hehe.
     
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    I also couldnt believe i was getting 99C one week after buying it -.- I used a Nox Thermal Paste from my local store, if your interested i can look for the model since i threw away the box. I took away the black protective sticker from the gpu, which had the old past applied on, cleaned the gpu with 96% alcohol and applied a big bead of thermal past and extended it with the thing that came with the past.
     
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    Same here.
     
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    I am looking forward to owning the Sager NP8265 very soon, after much research about Sager's build quality I believe it's a safe investment and the best place I can get it from at the moment is XoticPC.com
    Once I get this machine I'll be sharing the details of my discoveries in this thread. Perhaps if there's an actual NP8265 thread I'll post there instead but this is the closest I could find.
     
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    Glad to hear it! Be sure to let us know if you need any help.
     
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    Got my P157SM back about three weeks ago just before heading out on vacation. I noticed that the airplane mode light is lit all the time. I hit the fn key combo and the icon in the upper left of the screen changes from on to off and back but the light never goes out. Should I be concerned? I had sent it back for a new motherboard because of the 2nd mSATA problem (revision 3.1A now 3.5A). I just hate to send it back again for such a minor thing. As long as it is just a minor thing.

    Any thoughts?
     
  40. pilililo2

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    If my laptop had problems from factory, I would send it back till it was completely perfect.
     
  41. cavell219

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    Get my laptop back tomorrow with a shiny new 780m inside bf4 beta here I come :)

    Sent from my GT-N8013 using Tapatalk 4
     
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    Shiny new 780Ms are always fun :D
     
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    just placed an order for P150SM @ xoticpc

    only upgraded gpu to 8970m, and even that only after much deliberation between it and the stock 770m. i'm more after price/performance and the $100 770->8970 just seemed so reasonable to me despite "driver concerns". thoughts?
     
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    Congrats! I think just about everyone that experienced the 7970 debacle will shudder at AMD drivers but haven't heard too many complaints on the current iterations so you should be fine. They're definitely nice cards and great value, I'll be sticking with my green team sticker personally though.
     
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    I had nothing but problems with my 8970 so I sent it back and will get it back today with a 780.

    My 8970m was getting lesser performance than my g46 laptop with a 660m in most games.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4
     
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    Good input to have! Should definitely have got better performance than the 660m. Did you check out driver revisions to see if everything was updated? Attempt to trouble shoot with our service team?
     
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    I haven't had any problems with my 8970m. Just remember to have the latest beta drivers. The non-beta ones have trouble with utilization in directx 9 games. Other than that haven't had any problems.
     
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    Internal Lighting Disable Trackpad Backlighting
    Mobile Chassis MYTHLOGIC Pollux 1613 Chassis (Clevo P157SM)
    BIOS Customization None
    What da Puck?? None
    Exterior Finish None
    Mobile Display 15.6" Full HD (1920x1080) Matte 95% NTSC Color Gamut LED Backlit LCD (Pollux)
    Dead Pixel Guarantee None
    Monitor Calibration Free MYTH Professional Monitor Color Calibration
    CPU Intel Core i7-4900MQ 2.8GHz, 8M L3 Cache, 22nm, DDR3L-1600MHz, Quad-Core Mobile Processor
    Thermal Compound Free IC Diamond Thermal Compound
    System Memory 16GB (2 x 8GB) , PC3-12800, 1600MHz SODIMM
    Video Adapter AMD 8970M 4096MB GDDR5 DX11 Compliant Video Card
    Optical Notebook Black 6X BD-ROM/5X DVD+RW Blu-Ray Combo Drive
    Bay Accessories None
    External Optical Drive None
    RAID [Requires Identical Hard Drive Selections] None
    mSATA Solid State Drive 1 Samsung PM841 (840) 256GB mSATA Solid State Drive
    mSATA Solid State Drive 2 None
    Hard Drive 1 1TB 7200 32MB Cache SATA Notebook Hard Drive
    Hard Drive 2 None
    Hard Drive 3 None
    Keyboard Standard Backlit Keyboard - NON Chiclet
    Mouse None
    Network Card Onboard Gigabit (10/100/1000 Mbits/sec) LAN subsystem
    Wireless Card Intel Centrino Advanced-AC 7260 2*2 802.11 ac/a/b/g/n + BT 4.0 350/867MB Total Bandwidth
    Bluetooth Integrated Bluetooth 4.0 Only With Intel 2230/6235/7260 AND Killer 1202 Wireless
    Operating System Windows 8
    Anti-Virus Software Microsoft Security Essentials
    Productivity None
    Extra Battery None
    Extra AC Adapter None
    Laptop Sleeve | MYTHLOGIC Recommends SLAPPA Gear None
    Laptop Case | MYTHLOGIC Recommends SLAPPA Gear None
    Wireless Display None
    Notebook Cooler None
    MYTHLOGIC Assurance MYTH Lifetime Assurance with Lifetime Labor + 1 Year Parts Warranty, 45 Day 2-Way Shipping Cont US
    Phoenix Upgrade Plan Lifetime Phoenix Upgrade Plan
    Accidental coverage and Insurance None
    FREE MYTHLOGIC T-Shirt Pick a size MYTHLOGIC Tribal T-Shirt - Medium
    MYTHLOGIC System Media + Mousepad MYTH Mousepad and System Media

    So I am thinking of getting this from Mythlogic anyone here have any better suggestions? I would be useing it mostly for Photoediting. Only going with the 157sm over the 150 because it just seem's like with the extra vent on the bottom it will run cooler. And figured that the better cache of the 4900 would help me more for photo shop than the difference between the 8970 and the 780m
     
  49. cavell219

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    I got mine from pro-star and sent it to them. I had the latest drivers tried beta, and customs all to no avail.

    The card may have been bad but I just sent it to them and asked them to put in a 780 and they did. And now it works :)

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4
     
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    thanks for input guys, seems mixed but somewhat negative. will test the waters when its here and give my opinion.
     
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