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    *** Official Clevo P157SM-P150SM / Sager NP8250 Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by HTWingNut, Jun 1, 2013.

  1. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    That's perfectly acceptable for stock.
     
  2. H20Life

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    I'm happy I can run most games ultra at a solid 60 fps :D Like Bioshock Infinite and Tomb Raider.
     
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    Hi,
    I'm wondering what kind temperatures everyone is experiencing with their SSDs? My Crucial 240GB M500 started out running in the 60s (commonly the high 60s). For the hell of it I moved it to the secondary slot under the HDD. Now it's running in the 50s. I'm happy it's running cooler but not sure it's cool enough. Does anybody else average temps in the 50s? Or are you running cooler? And if you are running cooler what drive are you using? I'll RMA my M500 if I can get significantly lower temperatures.
    Thanks!

    Sager NP8265-S | Core i7 4800MQ | GeForce GTX 780M | 16GB RAM | 240GB Crucial M500 | 750GB HDD | Windows 7 Home
     
  4. geko95gek

    geko95gek Notebook Evangelist

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    Mine stays around 30C, most of the time.

    Sent from my baked potato
     
  5. ajnindlo

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    You should mention you have a NP9380, lest someone assume you have one of the models in the thread title. (If it is in your signature, not everyone sees those, in fact I don't)
     
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    I appreciate the feedback. That's significantly cooler! I don't know how much of that is the larger chasis and how much is your drive...
     
  7. geko95gek

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    Sorry, speedfan was reporting the temps wrong. Intel XTU reports around 40 idle and 50-60 under load.


    Sent from my baked potato
     
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    So I'm right in your ballpark then. That's reassuring. I also found a comment on the M500 Series thread of a 960GB Crucial M5 running 50-55C depending on load - pretty much exactly where I'm at.
    Thanks again for the input!
     
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    geko95gek Notebook Evangelist

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    Thats good to hear! :D

    My GPU tops out at about 85C, but thats the absolute highest its been so far.
     
  10. ajnindlo

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    Was that in a benchmark or a game? It seems normal for a high end game, but low for a benchmark.
     
  11. geko95gek

    geko95gek Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah it is pretty normal I guess, it was Metro 2033. Crysis gets to about 82C only.


    Sent from my baked potato
     
  12. ajnindlo

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    Both of those push the gpu, but not as much as a benchmark can. Wait until you try Crysis 3, or Far cry 3...
     
  13. H20Life

    H20Life Notebook Guru

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    One problem with the P150SM:
    The edges are very sharp hence uncomfortable during long sessions of typing or gaming.

    Peace.
     
  14. geko95gek

    geko95gek Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah I know, I've been getting 99% utilization pretty much all the time so it seems to be working as intended. The only issue I encountered is sometimes the framerate is locked at around 10-12fps when I start a game so I have to restart the notebook and after that its back to normal. Feels like its the 13.11 Catalyst but not sure.
     
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    Well the 370SM wont have enduro to worry about too.
     
  16. ajnindlo

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    That is odd. You might try a newer or if not availible, try an older catalyst driver.
     
  17. Consumered

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    I've noticed this for maybe a month now, but I always just passed it off as an anomaly. But I'd like to know if anyone has encountered this or simply has any ideas on what it could be:

    Occasionally my P150SM's battery just seems to disconnect. By this, I mean things like Windows no longer updates the battery meter and BatteryBar would show N/A instead of a percentage or time. During this time, I can still use the computer on the battery as normally, but it does not appear to charge if it is plugged in when this happens. This typically occurs infrequently, however, it pops up more often to being once every 1-2 hours during some gaming sessions while plugged in. It's obvious when this occurs because the screen will dim and the computer presumably switches to power-saving mode for 1 or 2 seconds before switching back. In these cases, it's not debilitating but annoying nonetheless. A couple notable occurrences of this were not during intensive-use, where the battery stayed "disconnected" until restarted--one of which was prompted after being booted up from hibernation.

    Any clue what this could be? I have the 780M; concerned it might be a power issue while gaming, I underclocked the GPU a bit which was previously set to overclock. Very weird behavior among others, but I'd rather get this one resolved first.
     
  18. geko95gek

    geko95gek Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah if it keeps happening I'm gonna try the latest driver from MYsn download page.


    Sent from my baked potato
     
  19. cryptodamus

    cryptodamus Notebook Consultant

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    They're not that sharp imo. Not enough to give you a paper-cut on your palms/arm.
     
  20. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Added latest stock BIOS & EC for this model to my blog (follow my signature)!

    It's a simple one step flash method and fixes the 8970M UEFI mode black screen issue.

    ENJOY! :)
     
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    H20Life Notebook Guru

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    HAHA sure XD
    but they make me uncomfortable and hurt me :p
     
  22. geko95gek

    geko95gek Notebook Evangelist

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    Put a tea towel where your wrists are resting and everything will be ok. :)
     
  23. Meaker@Sager

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    On a notebook stand tilting the machine the edges wont stick in :)
     
  24. geko95gek

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    Oh yeah that's it.

    Forget mine lol


    Sent from my baked potato
     
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    They are mostly rounded on the P570WM but having the machine at an angle usually makes typing easier and ensures the cooling is working as well as possible which is a double win.
     
  26. geko95gek

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    Well it pretty much the same on the P370SM, got no complaints about razer sharp corners or anything.

    However, my Notepal U3 keep my notebook raised up as well when I'm using it.
     
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    I never turn the fans on my unit on (I could not even tell you where the power cable is) but they are handy for keeping the area clear ^-^
     
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    Lol, now thats what I call living dangerously :p
     
  29. sudz

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    I know the laptop has been out for a while, but has anyone encounted any problems with Eurocoms X3? I believe it uses the P157SM

    The buying experience was great, the pre-sales support has been great. Since then, I feel kind of shafted. I've had a few moderate problems with them.

    I got the laptop for Work, and it was volen-told to get Windows 8 so I could support end users with it.

    Well, First problem was that the device wouldn't boot, right out of the box. Turns out they slapped in the 1TB 7200rpm drive before shipping, so it was set as boot device instead of my 2X128gbM500 MSATA drives (raid 0) Got that sorted out, and then It came around to getting windows 8.1 (which the invoice said it came with)

    Windows 8.1 install failed numerous times, Kept booting toa blank screen. Resolved (mostly) by wiping out 8970 drivers entirely off the system, booting up, and re-installing beta drivers.

    NOW when I boot up, it occasionally says its trying to do startup repair, it fails, I reboot, and it all works fine.
    The RAID prompt at the beginning show sthat the raid is Healthy, but that one of the drives say "error" Although everything appears to be working fine.

    Overall, I'm kinda pissed that I bought a 2100 dollar laptop.

    Their support says I need to flash the mSata SSD's with the latest firmware, however it needs to be done via the OS... but the OS doesn't see the individual drives - just a Raid, so I have to basically do a wipe and re-install on my Work laptop with all my tools installed. This will set me back Days.

    For something that is "stress tested" for 24 hours, I seem to be having a lot of issues that should have come up.

    Anyone else have problems right off the bat?

    As far as a ahrdware platform goes, I'm very happy. I love the screen, the keyboard layout (action is... ok) the backlighting is nice, and other than the super agressive fan profile, The cooling seems pretty good for a laptop of this size/power.

    Stats: Eurocom X3
    8GB Ram
    2X128gb M500 msata drives in Raid0 for OS
    1X1TB Toshiba 7200rpm HD for storage
    AMD 8970M 4GB with latest Beta Drivers
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit (ugh)
    i7 4700mq
     
  30. minerva330

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    Hi-new to the forum, and new to sager/clevo, just ordered my first one today, so please forgive me if this isn't the best place to post this question.

    I just ordered a Sager NP8255, however, there is still something I am unclear about.

    This model boasts having to HDD bays, however, under the options when ordering my HDD's the primary bay offers the usual suspects. i.e., SSD, spinning, hybrid but the secondary only offers SSD. After some digging I read that the primary accepts a 9.5mm and the secondary 7.5mm. Does anyone know if this is true? I ask because I want to swap out the primary that ordered with laptop for a SSD that I already have which will run my OS while the secondary my storage.
    If it is true and the primary and secondary drives differ in height then I suppose I could just put the SSD in the secondary (after I install the OS) and then reconfigure the boot order.

    Can anyone set me straight?

    Thanks
     
  31. Support.1@XOTIC PC

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    You are correct, but doesn't make a performance difference which drive is where if they fit. Just reconfigure the boot priority and call it good!
     
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    Awesome. Just one more follow-up: because I did not purchase an OS with the laptop (I have an extra W7 laying around) will I have the option to install it from the secondary once I throw in my SSD?
     
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    You'll want to do a clean install once that SSD gets put in. They store data differently so not recommended to just mirror it over or anything like that. Put that SSD in and do the Win install like normal.
     
  34. minerva330

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    Great. Thanks, I really appreciate it.

    Lastly, just as an aside. I was planning to set-up a dual-boot for Ubuntu. Is the NP8255-S and Sanger/Clevo in general Linux friendly?
     
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    For the most part yeah, I can't get too heavily into that since it's not a supported OS from a reseller perspective. The only thing people have trouble with sometimes is Optimus switching. There are a few threads on the forum about doing so though.
     
  36. Meaker@Sager

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    You will also want to watch out for uefi and secure boot. You may want to stick to legacy boot mode.
     
  37. Mr.Koala

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    Both native EFISTUB and GRUB (or whatever UEFI chainloader you prefer) work just fine as far as I can tell. Multi-booting with Windows (from the same hard drive or from different drives) also work out of the box.

    You do need to disable secure boot unless your distro has a MS key.
     
  38. Meaker@Sager

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    The alienware guys cant turn off secure boot =/ so it's nice to have the option.
     
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    Does that mean no non-Windows OSes (without MS key) on AWs, or you can still fall back to legacy boot?
     
  40. ajnindlo

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    Well, you yourself said Linux should work if it has the secure boot key from MS. Of course you didn't say it would for AW, but it should be the same theory.
     
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    Makes it a huge pain basically.
     
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    Are there any smaller or at least thinner power supplies that work with the P150SM?

    Looking for a mobile one. Not for gaming as much as just keeping it somewhat powered.
     
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    Only by soldering in a compatible cable in a brick like the 240w slim.
     
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    Where can I find that? How hard is it / how much of a risk?
     
  45. Meaker@Sager

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    Depends on how good you are with a soldering iron. I've posted guides in the hardware upgrade section.
     
  46. ajnindlo

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    Several people have upgraded to the 240 watt power supply so they could overclock. Look for Meakers guide or I remember it was mentioned in HTWingNuts review, maybe a few pages in.
     
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    Oops. Should add "without MS key" to that post.

    Does legacy boot work on current AW notebooks?
     
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    My 770m on clevo P150SM keeps running at max 705mhz core clock, been using afterburner and CPU-Z to check clocks and nothing. When playing BF4 and overlocked higher than 705mhz its still stuck there. Solutions?
     
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    What drivers are you using?
     
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    EVGA Precision software might help. It works on all Nvidia cards, afaik.
     
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