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Hi everyone,
planning to buy 2 new laptops this winter(for me and my wife) to replace our current ones.(I am still using DELL Latitude D820 ) Currently preferred reseller is mysn. I live in Europe, so EU shipping is required.
The build I am going to go after is i7-4700QM. nVidia 780, 1TB 7,2k rpm + ~250GB SSD.
I am most likely to get either P150SM or P157SM. However got few questions and probably someone here will be able to advise:
1) Sound. I know that these are gaming laptops and small ones at that.(I can't understand 17" laptops altogether.Can't imagine myself getting one, as laptop shouldn't weigh 4kg.. ) However which one of them sounds better? For us main think is mobility. I don't think I will user laptop in any other place than in bed, so external speakers is not an option. Loudness is preferred to quality in this case(as I've read these laptops do get quite noisy.)
2) Screen. I am planning on getting the increased gamut screen . The cost difference seems to be worth it, however I have been reading reviews about these laptops for more than a month, yet I haven't found any with this option. Any idea where to find any info of brightness, view angle, etc?
3) what is current situation with fans? I read that they are on/off without steps in between. has this been fixed?

actually most important point for choice is number one will appreciate any info on it.

 

You want good sound? Use digital output.

The panel: AUO B156HW01 V4 Overview - Panelook.com

The fan is not really on/off. But it is very aggressive.

 

Thanks for the reply. However, that is my point, the only external device I want to use is mouse. nothing else. If mobility wasn't my concern, I would've chosen 17.3" version
my main question now is which of these two laptops has got louder speakers?

 

First things first, you said you wanted mobility, then dont get this laptop XDD. The sound is perfectly normal on my P150SM, like any other laptop, even better than others, and digital output is very good. Speakers are really loud and dont distort. I have a normal 1080p screen and its perfectly normal . The situation with fans is that on some games, SOME games, when the GPU or CPU go over 75 degrees, they lock up at full power and dont go down unless you close the program, this is totally understandable since you wouldnt want you whole laptop to look like a BBQ after a few hours. If you use in ear headphones or noisecancelling earphones you wont notice the fans while gaming, but if you are thinking of playing demanding games on speakers, youre gonna be pissed off by the fan noise.

But again, if you really look for mobility, i dont know why the hell you would go for this laptop hahaha

 

I've been stuck with dell latitude D820 for 7 years. I do want a powerful one now because this one is driving me crazy.
So I need a laptop with powerful CPU and GPU, 1HDD+1SSD and yet as mobile as possible. this sounds good enough for me as my current laptop weighs around 2.8kg. so I will adapt to this small difference. Now, my current one has got heating issues too so I control fan manually during games kicking it up to max power whenever I play(whatever is possible to play with this antique...). I am fine with a fan doing its job. Main concern was that it wouldn't be on/off thing, because now when I open facebook and my fan starts working as if it is last chance for it to show what it can do...

 

Get a smaller machine then. Something like W230ST should do just fine.

Do remember to get rid of CPU spiking processes if you're running Windows for Facebook.

 

Mr.Koala,
I don't want smaller. From size and weight perspective I prefer 15". After all in 7 years I got used to it. Also it is more fun to watch movies on this than 13"(yeah, I know, larger would be even better, but as I said, this is perfect balance for me.)
as for CPU spikes, I don't get them. it is just that whole system is very old. really old. and you can't expect much from it. I am happy that it lets me play LOL with around 40fps...

 

As an owner of an NP8265-S who uses it in school:

They are largely the same laptop (P150SM and P157SM) except the P157SM has a more "aggressive" appearance to it, and can handle dual 2.5" SATA3 SSDs in RAID 0. If absolute storage speed is paramount to you, this will be your way to go. (More storage possibilities, AND a higher speed of throughput.)

The sound quality of these laptops, once you get the latest realtek drivers and configure the X-Fi MB3 sound to accept: a) The realtek setup as 7.1; and b) that the X-Fi driver is to say "Onboard Sound" is actually quite good. There's very little hiss, and the onboard 2.1 setup can push sound rather nicely. Is it like having an external 7.1 system? No. But if you're in a dorm room, or just want to fill up a bedroom with sound, it's more than enough.

As for screen: The 95% Screen is amazing. If you watch movies on it, or you game, it will bring out a much higher range of colors and will really punch out the movie effects. It is also *VERY* bright, almost blindingly, when maxed out. It's best to keep it at about 50% brightness unless you really need the range for things like photo editing.

Jason

 

Hi all !
Recently got a clevo P150sm (i74700 + gtx770m +8gb ram) , it run really well ! (i will probably make a big review in some weeks ) , from AnyWare (France)
BIOS version : 4.6.5
SMBIOS version ( i don't really know what it is ? ) : 2.7
EC version : 255.255 ( i suspect something strange in this numbers )
running W8 64bits + All up to date drivers ( can't go on 8.1 ATM, for some reason )
But, i have a big problem :FAN
Sometimes, when playing RAGE (the only game played at the moment) after 1h, or making BOINC computing- after 10min, the both fan go FULL throttle , exactly like the Fn+1 key, but unstoppable until application quit (and 2-3 minute more ) , making a reboot don't affect it, but stopping, then restarting the computer cut fans,first i have thinked about temperatures ( i have made a repast Day 0 with IC diamond + aluminium foil), so i have made Hwinfo 64 in background, and launched BOINC :
At fan kick ,temp were : CPU : 82°C , GPU : 66°C , PCH : 83.5°C,HHD/SSD : 36°C , wich are pretty good imo ! , Soooo Why ? it's really annoying to play, and pwwwwoooooofff , my laptop goes in the air like a F22 raptor ( not physically, but pretty much same noise )

So if you have any idea ! i take it

Elipsus

 

The most recent bios version is BIOS 1.03.03 and EC 1.03.01 as far as i know. Maybe there are some issues with your current EC version, because i have to agree: Your temperatures look great.
Trying to flash EC may solve your problems.

 

Hmm I was also considering 95% gamut screen (+40 euros) but I have heard that for gamer its not so good because games do not use "profiles" (?) and it is then not really calibrated. So you see a lot of red/pink colour (like oversaturated? )
so I don't know if i should go for it. I am watching also a lot of movied on laptop, so for this i think 95% shoudl be better?

 

Why's your CPU so hot??

For me its usually the GPU that gets up to those temps under 99% utilization.

 

BOINC is a computing project, that use all the ressources available!, these temps are at full power for both CPU and GPU ;-)

Envoyé de mon XT925 en utilisant Tapatalk

 

Do I need a 240W power supply so that the clevo 770m can overclock above 705mhz? Where can I has buy?

 

The 180w power supply is enought for a gtx780m, that consume 100w, the 770m consume about 75w,so you already have a big margin, I have personally a +135 and +600,and the 180w is way enough

 

Like I said in previous postss, the fan throttles to full speed when temperatures of cpu or gpu go over 75C, its to protect from the heat

 

Hum, sorry, but i have missed that !
But, like i said in my previous post, fan kick occured at 83°C for the hotter part (PCH, that can handle 110°C) , and CPU was at 82°C, and since a long time. ,maybe BIOS differencies ?

Thanks
Elipus

 

Go with it as long as money is not a problem. If you don't like the over saturation in a game you can switch color profile to go back to normal gamut. You don't lose anything.

 

That's the point though, some games ignore the windows colour profile, I have a 90% panel at the moment and 95% for my old machine and I was fine though.

 

Just about every game out there is designed to use a lower gamut rating than NTSC 72%. For gaming, anything at a higher gamut some people will report as the colors being a little off due to the increased gamut, but 72% seems to be the sweet spot for gaming. For graphic design work, anything where color accuracy is important (photoshop, video editing, 3D modeling, etc...) the higher gamuts are key so you can get as close to print as possible while looking at it on the display.

 

so its always better to take higher gamut % ? It can really improve screen looking?
I am not photographer and I do not work with graphics etc. Just movies, documents, internet, games.

I have only 95% Gamut and "normal" at mysn.de to choose, so 72 is not an option.

 

Is it possible to calibrate a screen to a specific Gamut rating??

 

I would stick with a nice 72% gamut screen then to be honest.

 

If you're not using the machine for the tasks that take advantage of the higher gamut, not necessarily a need to pay for it. It's been pretty widely reported here on NBR though that the 95% screen that this model offers is pretty nice and a lot of gamer specific users have reported it's a beautiful screen. If you want to opt for it, worst case scenario the colors may be a few shades off from time to time. If you feel the stock screen will be sufficient though, good things have been being said about that display as well and it being pretty nice for a default screen.

 

For those doing graphics work, a 6-bit screen is probably a bad option not matter how high the gamut is.

I believe the "normal" is 72%.

 

Guess not?

 

It's technically easy if you understand the physical definition of gamut. But there's no need to.

If your app is colour managed, you calibrate the screen to get correct colour reproduction, not a specific gamut rating. If your app is not, you won't benefit from any specific number anyway. Just use whatever that is pleasant to your eyes.

 

Ok thanks! Wish I could find out what the default Gamut is on my screen, I think meaker said 72% is the standard.

 

i guess this section is more appropriate for the below...sorry for re-post anyway,

Hi,

Greetings to all,i'm new to this forum, and I need some help

I own a clevo p157sm notebook with

Specification : i7 4700MQ, 8GB RAM, GTX780M , 15.6 inch Full HD

Recently i am facing a weird problem which i could not dig much about ... today morning when i tried playing games, i noticed lag, also then i checked in GPU-Z information, that the memory and clock speeds of the GPU is running at very very low freq than usual. While the usual clock speeds of the GPU as per standard was

Core : 849 Mhz
Memory : 1300Mhz

But now at load, the clocks are stuck into


Core : 324MHz
Memory : 400 Mhz

Which is not normal and its causing low performance, i also checked all temps, they are 32-39 at idle and was max 87 at full load before the issue occurred, right now the clocks are stuck and so is the temp at 37.

There is also a recent development of the issue, I noticed, when i completely shut the machine down, the next startup fixes the issue automatically, GPU z clocks are normal once again and games..no lag at all.
From that point if i restart the laptop for some reason, again it pops up, clocks get stuck to 324/400.

It takes a complete shutdown and push-start to make the frequencies right as usual, only in case of restart, it messes up, also i could see from the moment the laptop starts restarting ( using windows 8) the discrete GPU LED ( looks like a dashboard meter) starts lit atop the unit and remains the same until i completely shut the unit down. Any clue guys??, I figured there are many users of the same laptop here , hence i jumped in for some help, please suggest. Any help will be much appreciated.

 

The P730SM?

If you didn't go for the high gamut option it should be 72%.

 

You can get HWinfo to find the make/model of the screen installed, then google that model and find out what it is.

 

Good thing that someone started to point at screen gamut;
i have ordered a 95% gamut, and it seems that i ended with a "LG Philips LP156WF1-TLF3" , witch is 60% gamut.............
tomorrow, my reseller will hear me a bit i think.......Grrrrrr

Elipsus

 

Yeah, it's the AUO you are looking for, whoops.

 

Thanks mate, I will try and find out this evening.

 

No problem, let us know what you have installed in there.

 

Will do mate, leaving work in about an hour so I'll check when I get home.

 

Hi, I've had my p150sm for a couple days now and am really enjoying it but I have a problem.
I have an unknown device in device manager "ACPI\PNPC000\1"
I have tried uninstalling and then scanning for hardware changes.
I go to its properties and device instance path and i get ACPI\PNPC000\1
My google searches have not yielded much and was hoping someone might he able to figure out what this is or what driver I am missing.
running win 8.1

 

That could be the airplane mode driver.

 

Forgot to check yesterday, so hopefully I'll remember tonight.

 

Does this happen when you play one specific game or any game? I have had a similar experience where my dGPU LED would not turn off until I shut down, but I have not noticed my clocks going down while playing games. Sometimes NVIDIA drivers will clock down the card if the game you are playing is not very GPU intensive. You can sometimes fix this problem by going into the NVIDIA control panel and setting the power management mode to "prefer maximum performance."

Have you overclocked this machine at all? (CPU, GPU, RAM...)
NVIDIA drivers will detect when the GPU is drawing more power than the power supply has. When this happens the drivers lock the card into safe mode (the 324/400 mode) until you reboot ( I remember I found a way to get around this on my desktop, but I don't remember ATM).

 

The new power limit will just lower the clocks rather than clamping it these days.

You can check dGPU activity in the nvidia drivers and going to display and enabling the task bar notification.

 

actually this very problem is not specific to any game or application, rather its fixed with a state of the the unit, as i said, oddly, at any point of time, if i just restart the notebook, the dGPU led will instantly start lit and then after restart, if u hit gpu-z , you could see that the clocks are stuck at those figures, now...any shutdown or hibernating will immediately make things normal again, its very weird, i also did a fresh install of windows 8 pro, but the problem as i expected dint got solved. inf act during the installations of s/w after that the whole time the clocks were stuck there, until i shut it down, if it was a power limitation problem, then it would not have responded to a shut-down, i really dont understand what a restart/shutdown could mean to a GPU clock!!! the preferences are set to maximum already,


@meaker--can u elaborate how to monitor the dgpu activity as u mentioned? i am starting to believe that its a buggy Clevo Bios issue, can i be right ?

 

Since one or two (hundred) of you where wishing to have a Prema Mod for it:

Spoiler

P1xxSM:







P-SM / NP82/93-Series | Prema Mod

 

Don't give in to peer pressure!

 

Thanks that was it. just had to uninstall and reinstall the driver

 

Great news. I wonder if the fans will be better behaved.

 

Glad that worked. A google search gave the hint...

 

Can someone link me to the latest Realtek audio drivers for P150SM? The one from Clevo is giving unlcear/distorted sound.

 

Pretty sure it's this: Realtek