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    *** Official Clevo P157SM-P150SM / Sager NP8250 Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by HTWingNut, Jun 1, 2013.

  1. deribas

    deribas Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have P150SM from Mythlogic, mb v3.2. Installed 2x 256 M5M Plextor msata drives in raid0. My reason was not to waste available slot and have fast 512 array for system and data disk in hdd slot (not losing optical drive). All runs well 99.9% of the time, except as I posted above, sometimes getting boot device error forcing to disconnect power and reboot. Overall, I have no problem living with this giving that 2x plextors were way faster on all tests than single drives i tried (including 840pm and 840pro).
     
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    (@Hutsady and Meaker also)

    Thanks for the advice :) I currently have a single 256gb plextor m5m, I do agree with Hutsady on the all SSD setup, it's faster overall. But I think I'm going to try the 2x plextor setup too, simply because I don't want to lose my current 1TB 2.5" HDD on which I store my pictures, music and other data. I was just wondering if it was safe, I've also contacted my local reseller and he said he had never heard of the issue...(he's selling them with Intel drives). That 99.9% of the time, should I interpret that as about once a week with heavy daily usage or more/less often?
     
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    I'd sell that M5M and get an evo 512GB then.
     
  4. TonyBologna

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    Hey guys my touch-pad is driving me insane. I cannot disable the swipe from right gesture that shows the charms bar. I am running Win 8.1 and have tried everything I can find.
    I have tried change PC Settings > PC and Devices > Mouse and touchpad, the setting is not there like I have seen online.
    I have tried going to the touchpad device settings under application gestures, the setting is not there like I have seen online.
    I have tried editing the registry values like this one as seen in different tutorials. [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Synaptics\SynTPEnh\ZoneConfig\TouchPadPS2\Left Edge Pull]
    “ActionType”=dword:00000000
    I tried changing driver versions to Synaptics Driver 16.3.4.0 as someone mentioned in this forum

    I am sick of the charms bar popping up when I use my touch pad, If anyone has any suggestions I would love to hear them.
     
  5. deribas

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    Way less then weekly on average... Happens randomly, I was not able to figure out any dependency on something else, therefore assuming pre-3.5 version bug. Overall, I recall probably 5 -7 occurrences since July.
     
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    This drove me nuts also. I finally just uninstalled the Synaptics driver completly, and that fixed it at the cost of the extra features in the driver. Maybe talking to Synaptics would help as it is a function of thier driver.

    If someone fixed it another way, I would love to hear it.
     
  7. maguss

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    I don't have windows 8 but these people all fixed their problem with the windows 8 charms thing.

    Touchpad Edge Swipes - Enable or Disable in Windows 8

    How to Fix 'Synaptics Touchpad not Working' problem on Windows 8

    How to enable touch-pad gestures on Windows 8 laptops | Windows 8 - CNET Reviews

    How to disable gestures (charms bar, edge swipes, etc...) - Microsoft Community

    How do you disable ALL 4 Charms bar auto triggers - Microsoft Community

    I would go through those links starting from the top and see if they work. Some of these said the same thing that the option is not there under application so they had better success with these things.
     
  8. TonyBologna

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    Wooo I fixed it. looking at some of these guides motivated me to just go ahead and play with all the registry values and I found the one that fixed it, it was not any mentioned in any fix/guides I found.
    I am running driver version v17.0.9.1 that's the newest one I could get to work on Windows 8.1. Software Upgrade

    To dissable the right edge swipe for the charms bar go CMD > regedit
    HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Synaptics\SynTPEnh\ZoneConfig\TouchPadPS2_1\Right Edge Pull
    Right click "SliderActivationThresholdMils"
    Modify
    for "Value data" enter "ffffffff" (that's 8 Fs)
    restart computer

    Disclaimer, I have no idea what I am doing or what I did, It's not my fault if this all goes horribly wrong.

    Edit: After playing with it a bit, it seems that if i make a movement that would have activated the charms bar it just doesn't do anything not even move the mouse. even so I prefer this new dead zone to the charms bar popping out.
     
  9. ajnindlo

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    Interesting. Maybe now we just need to decrease the area it considures the "RightEdge".
     
  10. Mr.Koala

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    You can always try mouse settings in control panel...
     
  11. aiduoklis

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    hey guys! any1 had any experience buying from novatech? PC Components, Desktop PCs, Laptops, LCD TVs & Computer Hardware
    I finally found a company selling clevo P150/P151 with my required specs at a really good price! The only problem is that they don't offer 95% gamut screens. I found few on ebay and contacted sellers about them(to make sure they are exact same model, and are matte coated).
    Does any1 know if the connector in P150 should be on bottom left of lcd backside? I will have to replace 2 of them(buying laptops for myself and my wife).

    Oh, and a s a side note. I do hope that their keyboards are backlit. otherwise will have to continue my search for EU resellers....
     
  12. Meaker@Sager

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    The 95% panels exist only with the connector in the right place.
     
  13. Update94

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    I don't know where you live, but I'm still very happy with my P150SM which I've ordered at XNOTEBOOKS ® Europe laptops / notebooks own custom compile / configure Gaming / Multimedia, CAD / CAM and Office.
    Which delivers to Belgium, France, Germany and The Netherlands. So far their service has been very nice, they've always answered all my questions. So maybe if you live somewhere else and you ask them they'll ship one to you.

    The P150SM is called "Destiny" in their store btw.
     
  14. Meaker@Sager

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    The main sm series except for the xx1sm models should be back lit.
     
  15. Drakalinou

    Drakalinou Newbie

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    Hi,

    Hi have BSOD with my P151SM, like one BSOD per day.

    Here is my full configuration:
    Geforce GTX 770M 3Go with 95%Gamuts screen
    Intel® i7-4800MQ
    DDR3 Sodimm 16Go 1600Mhz (pack 4x4Go) quadri-channel
    RAID0 SSD Kignston 60Go mSATA
    500Go SSHD 64Mo cache
    Wifi Intel AC7260
    BlueRay

    I'm with Windows 8.1, all my drivers are up to date, my BIOs too, and the BIOS and FW of SSDs too. I try to unistall Windows the Reinstall it, nothing change. RAM problem?

    Here is my lastest BSOD, since 3 days (whocrashed):

    On Mon 10/02/2014 01:07:16 GMT your computer crashed
    crash dump file: C:\WINDOWS\Minidump\021014-7718-01.dmp
    uptime: 00:05:12
    This was probably caused by the following module: ntkrnlmp.exe (nt!KeBugCheckEx+0x0)
    Bugcheck code: 0x7F (0x8, 0xFFFFD000208D91B0, 0x0, 0xFFFFF8031C6B706D)
    Error: UNEXPECTED_KERNEL_MODE_TRAP
    Bug check description: This bug check indicates that the Intel CPU generated a trap and the kernel failed to catch this trap.
    The crash took place in the Windows kernel. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver that cannot be identified at this time.



    On Mon 10/02/2014 01:07:16 GMT your computer crashed
    crash dump file: C:\WINDOWS\memory.dmp
    uptime: 00:05:12
    This was probably caused by the following module: ntkrnlmp.exe (nt!KeBugCheckEx+0x0)
    Bugcheck code: 0x7F (0x8, 0xFFFFD000208D91B0, 0x0, 0xFFFFF8031C6B706D)
    Error: UNEXPECTED_KERNEL_MODE_TRAP
    Bug check description: This bug check indicates that the Intel CPU generated a trap and the kernel failed to catch this trap.
    The crash took place in the Windows kernel. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver that cannot be identified at this time.



    On Mon 10/02/2014 01:01:34 GMT your computer crashed
    crash dump file: C:\WINDOWS\Minidump\021014-7921-01.dmp
    uptime: 04:34:06
    This was probably caused by the following module: win32k.sys (win32k!W32pArgumentTable+0x1BDB)
    Bugcheck code: 0x3B (0xC0000005, 0xFFFFF960001C055F, 0xFFFFD0003A1C0EE0, 0x0)
    Error: SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION
    file path: C:\WINDOWS\system32\win32k.sys
    product: Système d’exploitation Microsoft® Windows®
    company: Microsoft Corporation
    description: Pilote Win32 multi-utilisateurs
    Bug check description: This indicates that an exception happened while executing a routine that transitions from non-privileged code to privileged code.
    This appears to be a typical software driver bug and is not likely to be caused by a hardware problem.
    The crash took place in a standard Microsoft module. Your system configuration may be incorrect. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver on your system that cannot be identified at this time.



    On Sun 09/02/2014 14:08:11 GMT your computer crashed
    crash dump file: C:\WINDOWS\Minidump\020914-9015-01.dmp
    uptime: 00:27:58
    This was probably caused by the following module: ntkrnlmp.exe (nt!KeBugCheckEx+0x0)
    Bugcheck code: 0x1E (0xFFFFFFFFC0000005, 0xFFFFF802ABA717C9, 0x0, 0x1073F8622)
    Error: KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED
    Bug check description: This indicates that a kernel-mode program generated an exception which the error handler did not catch.
    This appears to be a typical software driver bug and is not likely to be caused by a hardware problem.
    The crash took place in the Windows kernel. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver that cannot be identified at this time.



    On Sun 09/02/2014 14:08:11 GMT your computer crashed
    crash dump file: C:\WINDOWS\memory.dmp
    uptime: 00:27:58
    This was probably caused by the following module: ntkrnlmp.exe (nt!KeBugCheckEx+0x0)
    Bugcheck code: 0x1E (0xFFFFFFFFC0000005, 0xFFFFF802ABA717C9, 0x0, 0x1073F8622)
    Error: KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED
    Bug check description: This indicates that a kernel-mode program generated an exception which the error handler did not catch.
    This appears to be a typical software driver bug and is not likely to be caused by a hardware problem.
    The crash took place in the Windows kernel. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver that cannot be identified at this time.



    On Sat 08/02/2014 22:36:44 GMT your computer crashed
    crash dump file: C:\WINDOWS\Minidump\020814-8046-01.dmp
    uptime: 04:21:58
    This was probably caused by the following module: storport.sys (storport!_report_gsfailure+0x5)
    Bugcheck code: 0x139 (0x2, 0xFFFFF80022919540, 0xFFFFF80022919498, 0x0)
    Error: KERNEL_SECURITY_CHECK_FAILURE
    file path: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\storport.sys
    product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
    company: Microsoft Corporation
    description: Microsoft Storage Port Driver
    Bug check description: The kernel has detected the corruption of a critical data structure.
    The crash took place in a standard Microsoft module. Your system configuration may be incorrect. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver on your system that cannot be identified at this time.
     
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    I would start by running Memtest86 to test your ram.
     
  17. ajnindlo

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    Most likely memory or a driver. Start with a memtest as suggested. If it finds a problem, test one module at a time. It could be a bad module or slot, or only when that module is in a specific slot. Or just that the memory was loose.

    Having the latest drivers helps, but it could be a driver conflict, or a bug in the driver. Hopefully the memtest finds it, as that is the easiest.
     
  18. Drakalinou

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    Ok so, i made 3 pass with no errors :/
     
  19. Support.3@XOTIC PC

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    Check to see if your mSATA and SSHD drives have firmware updates. You can usually get those from the manufacturers site.
     
  20. Drakalinou

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    I already did it ! ^^
     
  21. smesx

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    Try removing two of the sticks of ram and running just 8gb for a while. I've heard of some computers having instability while running in quad channel. I really think it sounds like a ram issue.

    Sent from my VS980 4G using Tapatalk
     
  22. Drakalinou

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    So i remove 2 sticks, i'm gonna try like that for 2-3 days to be sure !
     
  23. djevoultion

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    Hi Everyone.

    Ok. So after spending the last 4 days researching laptop's I'm set (at the moment) on the P150SM. This is after considering Alienware, MSI GS70, Gigabyte and P170SM. My current laptop is the NP8130 w/ 560M. Thought I'd try something other than Clevo but go figure - sticking with it as it seems to be the best price/performance gaming machine around. Plus my Np8130 is still running strong (only had to replace a fan in the time I have owned it)

    The P150SM I'm looking at is with the AMD 8970M - I cannot stretch to the 780M budget wise. This would be a better choice than the 770M correct?

    I'm in Australia. Is affordablelaptops here still the best place to purchase this machine? with the 8970M and 95% gamut screen (thought I'd try this and see what the fuss is about) it comes to just over $2k.

    Thanks in advance for your assistance
     
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    The 8970m is considerably faster than the 770m yes unless you like dx9 titles in which it's still faster but by a bit less.
     
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    Long time lurker, third (or is it more?...I dunno) time poster..

    I had a question about updating the Intel Display drivers. I've had it happen to me a couple of times now where I accidentally check the box to update the Intel Display driver in my windows update (currently running 8.0) and when my machine reboots, it boots to a black screen. I don't even get to see the POST or BIOS message. After a minute of freaking out, I remember this happened during the first week I had the machine, and my solution is always to plug a HDMI cable into the back, connect it to my monitor/tv, and go and undo the update. This restores everything to normal, so then I just ignore windows prompting me to update Intel Display...until I hastily run through an update and mindlessly check the dang box again.

    I'm curious: is there a way to properly update the Intel Display drivers? I can update/uninstall/pick my flavor of the AMD drivers (8970m) just fine. Whenever anything updates my Intel Display driver, I get the black screen.

    Am I to live with the older drivers forever, or am I doing something wrong? Do I have to uninstall the AMD first, then update Intel, then re-install AMD? Should I abide by the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality? Are there any advantages to updating to the latest, if I can figure out what I'm doing wrong?

    If it helps, I'm running a Mythlogic 1613 (Clevo P150SM).

    Thanks!
     
  26. Lanaya

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    I don't personally know about safely updating, (pretty sure I read about it somewhere in this thread though...) but you can also right click that update and "hide update" so that you don't make that mistake in the future.
     
  27. djevoultion

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    Thanks Meaker appreciate your response. The 8970m it is. What are your thoughts on the 95% matte screen if you don't mind me asking. Much better than the stock screen even if not calibrated (I don't believe Aus resellers calibrate the screens and I don't think I'd get around to fiddling with it).
     
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    Test for a few days and swap them around. It could be wrong memory, one or two bad sticks, or a bad slot, or just one was loose. I have not heard of the P15x-SMs having problems with quad channel. I believe many are actually sold with four sticks of 4GB.
     
  29. Meaker@Sager

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    I like it, contrast and angles are good too but other upgrades are worth more if you are debating it.
     
  30. Drakalinou

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    So no BSODs since i do that... What can i do now? x)
     
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    That would point to some of that RAM taken out being bad and causing the errors. You can do further testing and swapping one of them back into the machine to determine which. Then as simple as getting that bad stick replaced.
     
  32. Meaker@Sager

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    Try them in the other slots too.
     
  33. smesx

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    Try different combinations of sticks in different slots or try 1 at a time for a a few days till you have use each stick individually. I'm going to predict that you wont find any problems with them individually or even using 2-3 sticks but once you go to 4 you will have the problems again. This is just a guess though, hopefully you find that one of the sticks is indeed the culprit.

    Did you buy this laptop with all 4 sticks installed? What brand are they? I've run into the case before where a motherboard just doesn't like a certain brand/speed in a certain configuration (ie. quad channel). Although I haven't found any evidence of the P15x-SMs having this issue, as ajnindlo said.
     
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    On another note. To the XoticPC reps. How do I get my free copy of the batman game I was supposed to get?
     
  35. Meaker@Sager

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    Make sure you did not miss a coupon in the box.
     
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    Yeah, should be on a post card sized paper inside that has the download instructions and code. If you still can't find it, shoot an email into [email protected] and they'll be able to shoot the code to you via email.
     
  37. JTOverath

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    Huh, looks like the Sager NP8255 at XoticPC is back ordered until mid-march.
     
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    Gonna be the case for all Sager resellers at this point. Sager notified us of the availability as of today.
     
  39. bltcool

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    ugh dammmm, i was gonna order the Sager today from Xoticpc...........and now i have to wait
     
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    Oh no! Always has to be somebody unfortunately and I know there were a few people today that weren't too excited with this news.
     
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    Wonder if this means a refresh with the 8xxm cards is coming?
     
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    thats exactly what this means.
     
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    Most companies are doing that at the moment.
     
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    oh refresh,,, you mean like taking the 8970m and renaming it to the r9? :p
     
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    Really liking my np8650s after the first few weeks. There are two issues I'm having that I wonder if anyone else experienced.

    -I always put the computer to sleep when before I pack it up and go home from work. Its plugged in and 100% battery while at work. Sometimes I don't wake the computer until the next day at work. When I do wake it the battery life is usually around 50-60%. This is a crazy amount of battery drain in one night while in sleep mode. This weekend I didn't use the laptop for a couple days and it was shut off from the batter being completely drained. I checked the event log and nothing is waking it from sleep and no usb devices are plugged into it while its in its case. Its set to sleep when the lid is closed on battery.

    -The fingerprint reader software, BioExcess or something. Flashes up in the top left hand corner from time to time with the little fingerprint icon with red x through it indicating an invalid fingerprint swipe. I've uninstalled and re-installed the software and drivers and I continue to have the issue. It was so annoying I left the software uninstalled.

    Any one experience these issues or have any ideas?

    Win8.1 x64 for reference
     
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    I have a Toshiba laptop with win 8.1 X64 that experiences quick drain when powered down, I still haven't pinpointed the cause, seems like the Win 8.1 hibernate isn't shutting down all processes. I do not have that problem with my P150SM running the same OS.

    A friendly suggestion? I would strongly urge you to never put a laptop into an enclosed case while it is powered on (sleeping or hibernating). I have mistakenly done this and opened the case to find the machine had awakened during transport and turned the inside of the case into a convection oven. I'm certain this extreme heat did nothing to extend the lifespan of the machine's components.
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    You need to be careful of your sleep/awake settings if you intend to do that certainly.
     
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    aiduoklis Newbie

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    hey guys!
    at last my day has come...
    Ordered 2 laptops today, one of which is 3XS Graphite LG1510-N780
    and another for my wife - 3XS Graphite LG135

    mine was a steal. best price from all clevo resellers.
    my config is:

    i7-4700QM
    780M
    256 plextor SSD
    1TB 7,2k RPM hdd
    8GB RAM
    unfortunately there was no 95% gamut option, so will buy that lcd separately and install myself.

    and wifes config is identical, just with nVidia 765M and 13" IPS panel.


    Should get it by end of next week, and I am laready dreaming what it will be like, as currently I am using 2007 Jan laptop(DELL D820)...... my time is coming!
     
  49. ajnindlo

    ajnindlo Notebook Deity

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    I use hibernate instead of sleep, so haven't noticed the problem.

    As for the 95% panel, I think you will be happy with the panel it comes with. Congrats.
     
  50. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Well he can see when he gets the machine and then get it later.
     
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