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    *** Official Clevo P370EM / Sager NP9370 Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by HTWingNut, Aug 28, 2012.

  1. ehancock

    ehancock Notebook Consultant

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    Have there been any major revisions to drivers or tweaks discussed in regards to the 7970M in the last 6 months?
     
  2. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Just general progress really. Of course the 7970M in the 370EM does not use enduro so that skips those issues.
     
  3. crawler9

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    Hopefully this will help someone:

    I've been having issues with not being able to adjust brightness since I upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 8.1. (Actually, I struggled with it on Windows 7 at some points too, but somehow or another, I fixed that in the past...) This is with dual 7970ms, but it may work with other video cards as well.

    Anyway, if anyone else is having the same issue, I just found a solution that actually works. Here's a link to the page where I found the solution.

    To summarize, change the values in both
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Class\{4d36e968-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0000\KMD_EnableBrightnessInterface2
    and
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Class\{4d36e968-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0001\KMD_EnableBrightnessInterface2
    from 1 to 0.
     
  4. Rebkos

    Rebkos Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey guys, anyone else noticed this?

    When i connect either of my three Samsung TVs through HDMI, GPU (7970M) memory clock immediately bumps up to 1199Mhz, which is fine, i guess it needs to be done to prevent tearing or something. But whats just super stupid is, that right away with connecting TV one of the fans just starts to spin, no matter what temperature. Its just driving me crazy, it spins even if i dont do anything and CPU and GPU is really cool, around 40s...
     
  5. pijeon1978

    pijeon1978 Notebook Guru

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    Just in case any one is interesdted

    I am now gaming on a 27" 2560 x 1440 monitor with my p370em, 7970m CFX - and i am surprised how powerful and smooth it is running at that resolution (Via Display port).

    I can still run new games on max setting, the only thing i have to dial down is SMAA or MSAA anti alaising - going for FXAA instead , as a general rule. The higher res is amazing, and any one thinking about getting a WQHD to go with their Clevo P370em i cant recommend it enough. Display port is literally plug and play - 2560 x 1440 res out of the box.

    Anyone else with a CFX or SLI set up using a WQHD monitor ? thoughts?
     
  6. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Memory speed goes up so they need cooling.
     
  7. Rebkos

    Rebkos Notebook Enthusiast

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    I would understand that, if the fan started to spin a bit latter, after temps bumps up, not immediately. Like when i launch some game, core and memory goes up and fan starts to spin after it reach certain temp, not right away when clocks go up.
     
  8. Meaker@Sager

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    There are no sensors in the memory so clevo set it in the ec likely so it would not overheat.
     
  9. ShadowOfScales

    ShadowOfScales Notebook Enthusiast

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    So I'm planning to get either one of these, a P170HM, or an Alienware M18x R1 barebone to move my Clevo P150HM parts into, and have a large future upgrade path.

    How does the cooling compare to the P170HM and M18x R1?
    I'd prefer the P370EM if I can get my hands on a bare-bone for a price that isn't essentially a rip-off (Eurocom said $1050 for a barebone with heatsinks and a 120hz screen.)
     
  10. ShadowOfScales

    ShadowOfScales Notebook Enthusiast

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    So I'm planning to get either one of these, a P170HM, or an Alienware M18x R1 barebone to move my Clevo P150HM parts into, and have a large future upgrade path.

    How does the cooling compare to the P170HM and M18x R1?
    I'd prefer the P370EM if I can get my hands on a bare-bone for a price that isn't essentially a rip-off (Eurocom said $1050 for a barebone with heatsinks and a 120hz screen.)
     
  11. Meaker@Sager

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    All those machines are really quite different.

    P170HM is more portable, about the biggest you want for going around lots.

    P370EM is decently cooled though the 2nd card can get a bit hotter since it shares some space with the CPU.

    The M18x R1 is huge, you wont want to carry it round much but has good cooling as a result.

    The EM does get IVY bridge processors which is a plus.
     
  12. Delpan

    Delpan Notebook Consultant

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    Hi all :)

    I have just got a Clevo P370EM with 1x 7970m in it with a late stock vbios on it.

    Running great....

    If i want to put another 7970m in it for crossfire? Should the 2nd card run the same Vbios as the 1st master card. Or does that not provide either worse or better stability? To have both cards run the same Vbios...

    That brings me to my second question? Where is it possible to get a Clevo 7970m card these days? Its quite old now and i seem only to find Dell ones on ebay that wont work in it....

    And noone is selling a used one in here :/
     
  13. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    You will just have to keep looking.
     
  14. Delpan

    Delpan Notebook Consultant

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    And what about the Vbios? Does 2 crossfired laptop gpus have to have same Vbios? Or does it not matter? :)
     
  15. Meaker@Sager

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    Sometimes yes and sometimes no.
     
  16. ShadowOfScales

    ShadowOfScales Notebook Enthusiast

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    So, I'm getting a P370EM, I have hardware as follows to put in it, from my P150HM:
    i7 2760QM
    2x 8gb DDR3 RAM (unsure of mhz)
    256gb SATA II SSD
    Blueray drive (if they're compatible with each-other for that)
    AMD 6990m

    Will everything work correctly?

    Edit: The P370EM contains all heatsinks as to my knowledge.
     
  17. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Probably unless the 6990 throws up issues. People don't tend to put in cards a generation behind the chassis.
     
  18. GodfatherIP

    GodfatherIP Newbie

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    I don't know the answer to your questions about vbios but you can get a 2nd video card upgrade kit on ebay:
    2nd HD7970M upgrade kit for P370EM
     
  19. Razorbak86

    Razorbak86 Notebook Geek

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    Good eye, GodfatherIP. I wouldn't have thought to check eBay Canada. I'm sure Delpan will appreciate that.
     
  20. cuban11182

    cuban11182 Notebook Evangelist

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    That was who I got my card from when I installed it. It worked perfectly.
     
  21. Delpan

    Delpan Notebook Consultant

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    Hi everyone

    I have got a Clevo P370EM with as standard has Enduro off...so it will always find the discrete graphics card...

    My problem is that i have just bought a Radeon 7970M card from a Clevo P170EM, which has Enduro ON.... it wont run in the Clevo P370EM without a VBIOS flash to the P370EM vbios...

    However when i put it into my P370EM it has black screen, so how do i flash it? The Enduro ..... up the possibility to flash!!!! :/
     
  22. CampGareth

    CampGareth Notebook Consultant

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    Hi there,

    I've just given my W110ER an IPS upgrade mostly for viewing angles, and now my P370EM's screen is bothering me, it's one of the LG TNs with a very sparkly anti glare layer iirc. I'm just wondering if anyone knows either:

    1) If there's an IPS display compatible with this laptop?
    2) Anything about the LVDS connection so I can go searching for a replacement?
    3) Failing that, how I'd learn more about the existing panel?

    Thanks in advance
     
  23. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    No, but there are reasonable matte displays available. Check out resellers to get an idea. It's a 40 pin dual channel lvds connection.
     
  24. Tyberis

    Tyberis Newbie

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    Hello all. I like many that bought the P370EM/NP9370 in the last year may be finally considering getting the 2nd card kit. I have seen plenty on ebay, but I'm wondering how well others results were with the install and how the latest drivers are with the crossfire config? Any major issues like crashing or issues with certain games not supporting it. Before I plop down the money just wanted others advice this upgrade. Also if anyone has found great deals on this kit that includes all hardware for 2nd slot and link cable could you let me know links or sites. Thanks.
     
  25. CampGareth

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    I see what you mean, odd that there's nothing IPS in this category. All I could find is a 50 pin dual channel 10-bit display used for dell workstations, I've read somewhere that an 8 bit controller can drive a 6 bit screen so I'm hoping things can work out but I'll pour over the LVDS standard first before throwing money at it.
     
  26. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    It's the panel manufacturers really.
     
  27. extremewouldbe

    extremewouldbe Newbie

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    Hello
    As you see I am new here.
    I have a P170EM, and it seems that this cannot be broken to accept the 780m.
    I am seriously thinking of getting the P370EM.
    My question is, will this take dual 780m's.
    The reason for the P370EM, is I own an 3490XM, which I replaced a 3840QM with.
    My thoughts were to put that back into the P170EM, flog it off with spare drives and ram, and use my OCZ Vector 512, good ram 16GB into the P370EM, with 3490XM and the twin 780m's.
    .
    My understanding is there are no hindrance's to the discrete card working all the time.
    I use my lappy for Photoshop, lots of images open at one time, also making videos, research on web, sometimes have up to 20-30 pages open, also use Dreamweaver at same time.

    Is it possible to run the 780m in this lappy.
    Thanks in advance
    PS
    I also play BF3 and BF4 Crysis, Need For Speed etc
     
  28. Support.1@XOTIC PC

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    The 7xx series of GPU aren't going to be compatible with the EM series from Clevo. Top would be the 680m for you on both machines, SLI 680m in the 370EM.
     
  29. Meaker@Sager

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    That or the 7970M are your best options.
     
  30. extremewouldbe

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    Okay thankyou for your reply XOTIC and Power.
    I have two options then, the P370EM with dual 680m's and switch my gear over from the P170EM and flog it off for whatever as I want to get max use from the 3940XM.
    Or get a new P370SM with a 4930MX and dual 780m's. Less hard drives and memory as I already have Corsair CMSX 16Gb mem, and OCZ-Vector.

    Can you tell me how do the dual 680m's compare to dual 780m's.
    I have seen it here and there that 680m;s are supposedly quicker than 780's. Is it true or not, as you are both system builders
    Is the P370SM the way to go or should I get another configuration?
     
  31. Meaker@Sager

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    The 780m is 20-25% faster at stock speeds than the 680m.

    i would personally stick with what you have and wait for the real 20nm maxwell chips.
     
  32. Rupp3r

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    Hello

    I am about to buy a P370EM with a crossfire of 7970M. However, I am wondering what is the actual situation with micro stuttering. I have read a lot of bad opinion about the gaming experience in 2012/2013, but I wonder if the issue is now reduced with the new drivers?

    Thank you :)
     
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    You can check news about the latest drivers at sights like anandtech. All the tests on the non 290x products (which dont use a bridge) should apply.
     
  34. Rupp3r

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    Hello

    Thank you for your answer. I indeed went through some recent Catalyst reviews, but I would like to get some in game feeling from owners of 7970M X2 here.. :)
     
  35. Meaker@Sager

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    The feeling of individual users makes no difference compared to the analysis of frame times compared to your own personal sensitivity to micro stutter.
     
  36. Rupp3r

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    Yes it is true but since I have never got a dual GPU I don't really know what to expect.
     
  37. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Then no one else can tell you, you will have to see it for yourself at say a computer shop or a friends machine.
     
  38. mrbillz

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    Greetings all,

    I am looking at replacing my 6235 wireless card with a new 7260 ac card. Something that puzzles me that I can't seem to find an answer for: This is a dual stream card and my new router (Netgear R1700) is also dual stream. Do I understand correctly that I should be able to run 2 simultaneous wi fi channels 2.4 and 5? (both the card and router support dual channel) Is there something I need to do to enable both channels? My reason for asking is that when I briefly played with an older Belkin N600 router, I could only get 1 channel at a time, either 5 ot 2.4, and I thought the 6235 card and the Belkin were capable of dual channel operation. I may be mistaken on this point.

    as I understand the current intel software supports both the 6235 AND the 7260.

    any thoughts, advice, suggestions, jeers ;)?

    All the best, BS
     
  39. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    No you get two streams of 5ghz or 2.4ghz.
     
  40. lu161513

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    Hello every one.
    Any one knows could 370em use win7 with uefi?
     
  41. Meaker@Sager

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    Yes, you should be able to, just make sure you boot the installation through UEFI.
     
  42. ShadowOfScales

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    So I have a slight issue...
    Well, two of them.
    First, I have a second GPU heatsink, but apparently I didn't receive any screws with it, any idea where I can get some?
    Secondly, my second AMD 7970m is an MSI one, this in itself isn't an issue, however, there is no port for the crossfire cable to enter, only pins where it would normally be.
    What can I do here?
    I at least want screws, so that I can use the second GPU for cryptocurrency mining or something, I'd sell it on these forums, but there's a ridiculous 100 post rule.
     
  43. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Contact your original reseller for screws.

    Sell the card and get another one, the MSI cards don't support multi GPU and clevo/sager machines, as is stated in all threads on changing cards require sager/clevo cards.
     
  44. MrCheetah

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    Hello Everyone!

    I have an interesting question that I have searched and searched for answers too no avail. I have a P370EM that was built by Rain ( went out of business late last year ) and now I maintain it myself. She run's like a champ! 32gb of memory, K5000m graphics card, twin Crucial 240gb drives and then a third 80gb jump drive just for the OS. Running Ubuntu 14.4 with several VM's for different work stuff.

    Anyways I'm trying to find a part number or supplier for the dedicated blue tooth module. I ordered my machine without bluetooth at the time unfortunately. I'm well aware that there are combo units on the market but you usually sacrifice a little bit of bandwidth for that option. When I pull the bottom off of this machine there is a small whip and antenna labeled for a dedicated bluetooth module however I can't find a part number or anything for that module.

    Does anyone here have it that could post a part number or manufacturer?

    Thanks in advance!

    Dustin
     
  45. Meaker@Sager

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    If bandwidth is an issue get the 7260 ac and get an ac network hub.

    The dual channel perform almost the same as tri stream ones unless you have one of the rare tri stream router.
     
  46. ehancock

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    edit: Does anyone remember the side by side photos showing the 7970m vs 680m heatsink/thermal pad arrangement. I might be replacing my 7970M and thinking about switching to the 680M
     
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    Hello

    I was about to buy a P370EM with a 7970M crossfire... The actual owner installed the latest catalyst 14.4 drivers and as a result, the slave 7970m is apparently dead... The computer recognizes the card but it only works with the master 7970m and is showing the error code 10 in the device manager....
    I am really surprised since this is the first time I see this kind of issue, that a driver can kill a GPU... Do anyonese else got any information about this issue, or if someone is facing the same issue with the 14.4?
     
  48. Meaker@Sager

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    Pads need to touch the VRM chips and inductors along with the vram. You can do this via physical inspection.

    rupper what happens with older drivers?
     
  49. Rupp3r

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    Hello Meaker

    Returning to older drivers doesn't solve anything..
     
  50. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Then it's likely a hardware fault.
     
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