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*salutes chip*

 

@D2 Ultima, Thanks man that made me break a smile, in the bleakness of my former friend and colleague Mr. Sandy-Bridge E

 

MGS tune is the end-all salute tune

 

I think as expected adding the chips has not done much to the clock profile, though I can bench up to 1366mhz at 1.1v the voltage required from that point goes up quickly.

I don't have any more shutdowns but I can no longer get the memory above 1500mhz, it's as if it has had an impact on the memory volt mod but I can't see how. Regardless if you are having problems due to the card shutting off the system at the highest level then getting the chips added will solve that issue.

It's more the 1.2v core limit that stops me going further now lol.

 

Can the P570 be adapted to support 900M series GPUs?

 

@Cormogram , Yes I believe this is the case with a prema bios. you can run 980m's. Several NBR members here have them.

 

Thanks for that. Will the stock cooling system of P570 be enough to cool the 240W of a dual 980M SLI?

 

@Takaezo: are you using the two K5000M for CUDA processing? Any advantages using SLI?

 

The mobile quadros do not support SLI, they can each be used for different projects though. The P570WM has the strongest cooling of any clevo machine.

 

Why Clevo doesn't list any 900M's at the P570 specification pages[1,2]? Outdated?
They do mention "Dual 100watt VGA" and that makes lower TDP than a dual 980M SLI needs.

[1] http://clevo.com/clevo_prodetail.asp?id=451&lang=en
[2] http://clevo.com/clevo_prodetail.asp?id=452&lang=en

 

P570WM stopped at 680Ms as far as I know. 780Ms and 980Ms work in them because of Prema's BIOS which is aftermarket.

100W is 980M's TDP. 780M and 880Ms were 120W and 125W respectively.

Maxwell is very power frugal (at least at stock)

 

That's just for the GPU. I've accounted for the whole MXM-B board (+VRAM +other components) with ~240W for a dual 980M SLI.
Glad to know the P570 cooling system is that good. How did they make it so?
I think the picture below doesn't show the fourth blower because there's just one GPU installed. Is that right?

Spoiler

 

The 880M was officially supported too. It was only the 9xx that has not been supported by clevo directly.

Yes the spacer is where the GPU and fan for the 2nd card would be.

 

No, that's for the whole MXM board. The GPU itself is 80W. The whole card is 100W. The 780M whole card is 120W. The 880M whole card is 125W. The 970M whole card is 80W. Etc etc. Maxwell does not use much power (at least at stock).

 

Even over volted I have never seen it get to the heights my 780M did when going for it.

 

I've got that number from Klaus[1]. Is it wrong?
Also, Jarred says[2] that it's supposed to be 60% of 980 (165W) -- that gives 99W.
Don't know why Nvidia makes a secret of that.

[1] http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-980M.126692.0.html
[2] http://www.anandtech.com/show/8585/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980m-970m-mobile-maxwell-gm204/2

 

I'm pretty sure that 980Ms use less than 780Ms and DEFINITELY less than 880Ms, and 120W was 780M's TDP and 125W was 880M's TDP. We're sure of that bit.

 

I didn't read this article until now because it's was about 970M, but it says:
"Nvidia is choosing not to disclose the thermal design power of either Maxwell-based mobile part, but a rough guess based on the GPU’s specs alone puts the GeForce GTX 980M in the 125W neighborhood, and the 970M somewhere around 95 W."
Looks like there's a lot of guessing going on about those mobile TDPs.

[1] http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/nvidia-geforce-maxwell-mobile-gtx-970m-gtx-980m,news-48998.html

 

Hmmm...32Gb of 2133 would be nice...but whatever happened to the 64Gb project, using 16Gb 1600 (1866?) modules?
"Oh Prema, Prema, wherefore art thou Prema?"

 

The programmed in bios level was 112W for the 780M IIRC.

The 980M is at 680M levels at stock.

 

And as we are aware, it was not enough power for stock operating procedures with higher refresh rates (like with my 120Hz 3D vision notebook) and I got lots of artifacting and crashing. It's designed to be a 120W card, I am 1000% certain of that.

 

Where can you purchase 204 pin 16GB modules at any speed? I would love some 64GB of DDR3, but I have not found a reputable dealer, one,... selling them. I did see one that looked like it was just a miss-translation on a page. I think it would be more likely to have 32 GB of 2133.

 

theres no 64gb. for desktop consumer to go 64gb they will need 8 sticks, laptops only ever going to have 4. 64gb will come when skylake comes with ddr4 hopefully, in a mobile form factor and even then if the market not big enough no manufacturer will make them.

 

It's voltage that impacts stability not tdp. A step higher 3d voltage would simply mean it would not boost quite as hard for so long.

 

But doesn't increasing voltage automatically increase TDP as a default measure? And remember, I'm not talking about clock speed/boost. I meant that artifacting took place in fullscreen games at 120Hz screen refresh rate, in general. It did NOT happen at 60Hz, regardless of clock speed or game FPS.

 

No, TDP and voltage are different sliders. The card will adjust the clocks to keep the card within the tdp. It can lower the voltage a step if it lowers the clocks enough but it's all relative to the voltage you set.

 

@Santander , very nice score there.

 

"Better then 99% of all results" gotta feel good about that

 

Even with a wimpy little 4.3GHz CPU baby-girl overclock, here's another 99-percenter.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/6341527

 

Nice scores @Mr. Fox , it seems you could push your core clock to 1402 MHz but @Santander couldn't go further than 1330 Mhz

 

^^ That is correct @Santander
A bit higher with 4.5GHz CPU OC... http://www.3dmark.com/sd/2904814

 

I'm going to fiddle a bit more and see if there is anything else I can do to get my memory clock back

 

Think I am going to add that missing cap on the left, see if it helps reduce the noise.

 

@Santander thanks for the explanation;

@Meaker , found them : 470 uf , 2.5 v

by the way if the caps are 2.5v , I don't thing you can exceed 1.25v in your over clock

 

Yes but the cap in that position needs to be a slightly different one 220-240uf. The board is hard limited to 1.2v and I don't intend to try hard modding the core voltage.

 

Did you do a firestrike run?

 

What do you mean no one benches anymore? I will be back in the game soon hopefully. Still saving up for a replacement.

 

I cannot understand why you tried to delid your perfectly working CPU... Hopefully, you get a replacement soon and don't try to delid it now!

 

Well it's time for a new project from me, something with a similar level of oomph though

 

Well I tried to de-lid it because it not only is three generations old, but I want to try and break 5 GHz on my Laptop, plain and simple. Three to four more deg. C might do that and this is one of the methods that can get that kind of decrease. Besides that I wanted to move to Ivy soon anyway. I will indeed de-lid the next one for sure because I now have the experience and know-how. Some time you have outbreak eggs to make.... well you know the rest. I do not hold material things with great value "precious" by any means, they are simply for my enjoyment, and I have enjoyed this process.

 

One another note: I would like to have some help form some experienced people here. while my other system is down I have been using my M15x alienware, but today I found that I have a virus/worm called "koobface" on that system. I have read all the articles I can and run Kaspersky, malwarebytes, and Security essentials in order to find it, but none of them are able to detect it. Even though it came out in 2009 there is no solution as of yet to remove this sucker. Can someone recommend a fix for me?, or a particular worm removal software or even a method. The person who found the worm was a email support representative level 7 Microsoft tech, but he could not remove it because he was just customer support. Have several support requests still waiting. In the mean time I can't access my mail, no matter which browser I use.
Any ideas appreciated
Thanks in advance

 

@Santander, yes I have tried that already, no luck.

 

Personally I got burned on my new system and I am needing to get it sorted before I can start putting out some nice benches. In the mean time what do you guys think:

 

@Meaker its hard to tell from the picture what exactly that is lol but w/e it is it looks cool...do tell me its certainly better than the current topic...

 

My new system developed a fault in production and is going to need a new motherboard. All the parts are still coming together though. Hopefully it just needs a few days and I can properly bring it all together.

There will be several stages to this build:

1) Up and running.
2) Quiet!
3) Water and ocing.

 

I've found some at NextWarehouse[1]. Enter "DDR3 64GB" and then filter the results for "RAM modules"

[1] http://nextwarehouse.com/

 

What new system is this? A desktop??

 

Thinner and lighter, single GPU.... Frankenbat?

 

The machine on the move weighs 1.2kg, so you should be able to figure it out from that.

But that is OT, I am just about to get the 3rd king crab in my set to match the laser work and then I can master them all

 

That's the weight of a single P57-330W AC Adapter alone...LOL