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I know. Just kidding with @D2 Ultima And I think you have the money for the elecricty bill. LOL

 

My 500w PSU is cutting out with both my notebook and GPU being powered by it, I need to step up to 700W to avoid having to plug my notebook in at the same time.

That's the only type of concern for power for a serious overclocker

Sadly the 700W silverstone PSU has been delayed :/

 

This is what I use, and it often goes on sale for close to half what NewEgg is asking for it. I think I paid just a little over $100 for it on sale. It is 900W, so it handles the M18xR2 and P570WM at the same time, although not overclocked benching of both simultaneously. 900W is not enough to do that, LOL. Normal use and gaming, it's more than enough for two at the same time.

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+ $ 470 here at home. A little over $ 100 is almost for free .

 

Yes, but too busy to use it lately. Also, burning a ton of calories on the LCD bricking problem more than benching. It's hard to think about having fun benching with my Clevo right now with that going on. The EVGA Precision X discovery was a pretty significant breakthrough. It's not the root cause, but it may help Dell/Alienware and NVIDIA isolate the underlying problem. That should be helpful to the Clevo owners that were also affected.

 

My P570WM has now gone onto a new owner (who is a member on the forum) so hopefully it will continue to give fun rather than sitting on my shelf and getting dusty.

It looks like the new 980 desktop class MXM may fit but only one card and you may need to do a bit of trimming...

 

At this point I am not sure it will actually work in anything yet. I think the goons at NVIDIA didn't plan for it to be used in SLI (morons). I believe Eurocom is working on something special and unique to force it to work in SLI, (might be exclusive to the new P870DMG, not sure if it will be a platform-specific mod,) but for now 980M SLI is still king of the hill (beats single GTX 980 mobile). To overclock the single GTX 980 with an unlocked desktop CPU will likely still require dual 330W AC adapters. Not sure if the dual 330W setup will be an overclock-limiting factor with GTX 980 in SLI or not.

This is what is looks like in the current form. It requires an extra power connector like a desktop GPU, so there is that to contend with as well.

Look over here: P870DM(-G) aka "PHOENIX" - Executive Lounge
(where I got the picture from @Prema opening post)

 

I assume that the motherboard in P870 does not have a limit on 330W. I have not read enough about this laptop to be sure it can adopt dual psu. If this laptop had a limit as AW18; It would have been a tragedy. Another new crippled product that is sold, only with socket hardware.

 

Mythlogic sells the P870DM with dual PSU + converter box, so yes it can handle it.

I don't think any SLI notebook Clevo has ever created (or DTR-type replacement notebook) has ever not supported dual-PSU. My D900F supported dual-PSU and all =D

 

Well, that depends on how you look at it. Compared to a 4930K or 4960X, the 6700K is certainly absolutely nothing to write home about. It will be raped by the P570WM, no doubt. But, it should be more powerful than a Ivy Bridge or Haswell mobile i7 Extreme CPU (as you can see from the 3DMark11 Physics score in that benchmark). Also consider that the 49 40MX is most pathetic laptop Extreme CPU ever made, and considering most laptops now have anemic turd BGA CPUs, this is pretty huge. This is destined to be the most powerful laptop with a quad-core mobile CPU anywhere on the planet, so from that perspective it's pretty huge.

There are still lots of people that overclock and benchmark desktop quad-core CPUs, even though they are never going to be as potent as a hexacore or octacore CPU. Some people even overclock AMD 8-core CPUs and those are very unimpressive processors that don't even perform very well above 6.0GHz. (OK, maybe that's not a good example because AMD CPUs are a real joke.) The 6700K should outperform the 4790K, so that's a plus.

And, on top of all that it has stuff like dual M.2 PCIe SSD, USB 3.1/Thunderbolt 3, dual miniDP plus HDMI, blah, blah, blah... gonna be a really great machine, and powerful laptop. I already want one right now, LOL. And, if the GTX 980 SLI thing doesn't work out as planned you can still go faster and have the best graphics performance a laptop can offer with 980M SLI.

 

That's what I thought. This is a laptop that can be a good choice. With Liquid Ultra on the processor and gpu then you can maybe run a decent Oc on both. Msi Gt80 is in any case no choice for me. Ugly and use Bga cpu. No thanks. If Dellienware maybe launch a new AW18 with(socket hardware) then there is a big risk that this model also gets a power limit integrated as previous model had. Nor a choice. I think Clevo is the only choice if you want an new ok gaming laptop.

 

I expect all of the Clevo resellers that offer their branded versions of the P870DM will offer it with dual 330W AC adapter. The GTX 980 will likely require it for normal functionality. Single 330W AC adapter can just barely support the needs of a single heavily overclocked 980M with a heavily overclocked mobile Extreme or desktop X/K CPUs. Heck, you even need a single 330W AC adapter to get the most out of overclocking the 780M in a Alienware 17 with 780M and 4930MX. Single 330W falls way short of meeting the needs of the Alienware 18 if you're overclocking much.

 

They have been since the P6xxSx and P7xxZM models.

They definitely will. The P37xEMx, P37xSMx, P37xSM-A, D900F, X7200, P270WM and P570WM models all had it, and the P870DM is no different from those.

That being said, have either of you commented with your wishes in THIS THREAD? Since apparently quite a few of the features and benefits we're loving from the P7xxDM, P870DM and P6xxRx models came from feedback from that place, I think you two would make quite a wonderful contribution. (hint: 120Hz screens please). This is what I asked for myself.

 

Here at home I can also buy a Clevo P870 aka Multicom Kunshan P870 Killer Edition. Purchased a Clevo at Multicom.no earlier in 2010. 27995, - NKR aka $ +3,500. It gets a bit more expensive when you want to upgrade a little. I need to upgrade with a second 330W psu(only one 330w psu). These can be purchased elsewhere . http://www.multicom.no/multicom-kunshan-p870-killer-edition-173/cat-p/c/p10632051
http://www.multicom.no/multicom-kunshan-p870-killer-edition-173/cat-p/c1000042/p10632052 It says in the advertisement; Excellent upgradability In Norwegian: Gode oppgraderingsmuligheter
@D2 Ultima I think copying a part of your post. You are better in English. LOL

 

Thanks. You saved me a lot of time and effort. I just basically quoted you and added a short comment.

 

LOL

 

Copying a bit. Finished post . http://forum.techinferno.com/clevo/8226-2016-17-clevo-models-what-do-you-want-11.html#post146640

 

It can depend on your timing of selling parts that dictates if losses are high or not.

 

That would mean you took a hella loss when you sold yours? Since you gave it away at a great price.

 

Considering how long I had the machine and it was a reasonable price.

 

This is a very expensive hobby. Not as expensive as hobbies like boats, cars, horses, pets with a pedigree, etc. but it's definitely not but cheap. My wife is the most important thing in the world to me, too. Most of them don't understand our hobby. It's starting to be frustrating because technology and innovation are making big leaps in some areas and going backwards in other areas. The nice thing about Clevo is they seem to care enough to try to avoid making foolish sacrifices and explain them away as somehow being an OK trade-off in light of the other advances. I want it all, not just some. I don't believe in making trade-offs or compromises where performance is concerned. If they try to pretend it's OK to have crappy BGA CPU because of this, that and the other "improvements" I will tell them to kiss my grits. If you're not going forward, at least hold the line and add the new stuff as extras (Thunderbolt, M.2 SSD, DDR4, better displays, etc.) and don't expect me to dismiss any BGA CPU or GPU downgrades... aint' gonna happen... absolutely an unpardonable sin. Slim and petite is nice if your an actress or super-model, but where computers are concerned, the fats boys rule.

 

Nice comeback. Was wondering how you were going to word that.

 

we'd buy stuff and paying double if its really rare and really needed it, at least thats what i'd do, in some extreme cases.

 

I'd say the cost after two years was around £1000 after most things were sold off. Other parts have been less but the system is rather niche.

 

we need 8 cores for the big boys. 8 cores at 4.6ghz makes you satisfied at life

 

Well we will have to see what options come up in future I guess.

 

Indeed.... @Mr. Fox probably won't be happy with anything less then that

 

I don't know about that. I read somewhere that he already wants a P870DM

 

Who didn't want to sport this one?

 

CPUs are nice but it's hard to argue with overwhelming gpu power

 

He'll definitely lose out on CPU power, but two mobile (lower power) 980s are hard to argue with. GPUs go a lot further than CPUs in most benchmarks, and he'll be able to get his 6700K higher than the 4930K... couple that with the IPC benefits from Ivy to Skylake too and you have a system that's at worst a sidegrade to this.

 

Unless you need 12 threads it's a better option at this point yes.

 

we still dono if 6820hk will be restricted by tdp or not. even if intel doesnt restrict them, other manufacturer might simply becauese they dont offer dual PSU.

 

We were talking about the 6700k which is certainly unlocked.

 

If you thought we were even considering that Mr. Fox would purchase a BGA notebook even as a joke, you really haven't paid much attention to this forum man.

 

thought u guys talking about bga garbage, opsy.

6700k runs hot though, hotter than 4790k at high frequency pass 4.2ghz. time to wait for cannonlake boys.

 

They are fairly easy to delid though.

 

Binning is the problem... Also 14nm... Trust me, the CPU's coming out in a few months will be much better...

 

I've yet to see Intel have significant variation in the life of a process since the early core series days.

 

Or opposite. Remember i7-4940 vs older 4930mx ? A worse overclocker

 

Hi guys, a very unrelated question. Any of you installed windows 10 on your notebook? I got some wired problem with my keyboard.
when I log in to the windows the keyboard stops working for around a minute. then it works fine with no problem.

 

Did you upgrade or fresh install it?

 

First upgrade, then format and fresh install, not a chance.
in fact I had another serious issue which I've tried to solve it by formatting the whole disk but didn't solve.

When I shut down or restart the computer, sometimes (Most of the times), everything goes normal until the LCD turns off and computer suppose to restart or turn off at that point, but it stays on for around a minute or more before it happens.

I believe it is a raid problem, because it began to appear on my windows 8.1 after some blue-screen for hard drive failure and then my EFI boot messed so I had to fix it in order to boot the windows.

I thought by installing windows 10 it will be solved but the problem still continues , maybe a raid hardware messed up..
these days it takes 20 seconds before the bios boots up with raid enabled, previously it was only 5 seconds.

I disabled the raid and installed the windows on the first hard drive, it was normal for a day (or maybe the system was in a good mood that day) , then I enabled the RAID0 again and install the windows again and the problem appears.

without raid0 it, takes long time for autodesk softwares, visual studio or labview to start, I prefer it stays enabled.

 

Maybe there's something messed up with Intel RST under Win10? Did you install the latest Version or tried the Version Win10 provides? Just the first thought which came on my mind....

Off-Topic: I saw in your sig that you did a msata Mod? Is there a Guide how to do it? Would be great to learn something about it!

 

skylake 6700k has thinner pcb, hope nothing breaks, or wait for 6790k? lol

 

No surface mount parts on the top so razer or scalpel method I'd best.

I'd back the raid array up and try a bios flash, it could be the raid firmware having an issue.

 

there should be a post about details somewhere around here
there was bunch of capacitor missing and I soldered them. I'll take a look and tell you the exact values, when I get the chance

about the intel RST, i downloaded the latest version and no difference.

I think the problem lies with raid firmware. how can I flash it? it flashes with bios together?
Sorry that I'm asking questions instead of searching interne t, i just started my studies again and goddamn busy and confused in my life.

 

Yes it's built into the BIOS.

 

No need of digging around. Found that on page 196. Nice work, btw!

I hoped for a SATA III msata Slot. But as this is not, I have no need for msata in my rig.

 

everything is a mess now, I flashed the bios and didn't back up my hard drive cause never before it had anything to do with my hard drives.
now the raid controller got stupid, it only have one of my sdds in the raid volume that I created before and it was working until now.
and kicked out the other one from the raid volume and it count as non-raid now.
there is no option to add other ssd to the raid.
only choice is to reset all to non-raid and create another raid0.

I'm not sure if I'll lose all my data or the raid controller will recognize the two drives was in raid0 before this mess.

do you have any idea what will happen if I reset them to none raid?