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Well these sort of parts always have to be special ordered.

 

Hi guys!

Unfortunately there is no german parts reseller which is selling the P570WM CPU heatsink. The only one I found is RJTech BUT I am not willing to pay 140 Bucks shipping costs!

Do you know any european Store, reseller, etc. where I could buy one? @jaybee83: Do you know one in good ol' Germany?

 

@clevo-extreme CEG maybe?

 

Have you tried in the UK or the rest of europe?

 

Problem is that googling brings no results about anyone who offers it.

I will try CEG, but if you know some resellers I could ask either, that would be great!

 

It seems that @clevo-extreme is my saviour!

 

They were my savior too.. Before mySn could even give me a quote for a P771ZM without a GPU (had to get approval from head office etc ), got my machine from CEG.. Excellent service and no B.S!

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You guys might be interested in looking at what I posted here about the screen on my Panther. It's fixed now, but I don't want anyone else to have to deal with it. @Kpaxx had his 120Hz screen screwed up as well.

 

Is it worth upgrading from a 880m sli to 980m sli? If so what price am I looking at. Anyone selling these at a cheap price?

Also just wondering what board version everyone has. Mine is a 2.3a I had one before with version 2.2a but it didn't support the 880m? Do higher board versions mean you can have bigger gpu's? The board version is between the cpu and gpu heatsink

Also does anyone know where to get screws for this laptop as they wear out too quick. Thanks

 

Yes it's worth it. However, wait about a month and see what happens with the 980 (desktop) cards. If they are fitted into the P570WM somehow then they will be the best upgrade available.

 

Yeah, 980M is much better... HUGE improvement. Reach out to @woodzstack for the best deal anywhere on 980M.

 

Will they not overheat without additional cooling?

 

We don't know yet. However even if you go for the 980M SLI setup, you will still have a powerful system. The 980M will work fine and run cool.

 

If they don't require totally redesigned heat sinks and an external power source like the 200W GTX 980 does, then they may work. If they need either or both of those things, I think we can forget about a "desktop GPU" in the Panther.

 

There is also the question of the next generation cards and what they will be like form factor and compatibility wise.

 

They only have one new chip for the time being and it is MXM...the "NEW" GTX965M > 1427/1667

THX @ NVIDIA for once again giving two chips the same name...

 

1427Mhz core and 6.67Ghz memory? Or am I reading that wrong?

 

Ha ha ha, NO! Those are just the regular and g-sync hardware IDs for the "new" N16E-GR card.

 

LOL I knew it was too good to be true. Probably just a small bump in boost clocks.

 

It's a low performance chip with a much better performance/watt ratio and at the same time a little bump over the current GTX965M.

EDIT: https://www.techinferno.com/index.php?/forums/topic/9106-n16e-gr-the-new-gtx965m/

 

Well we don't know when they would come out, it depends on if you are happy with what you have for now.

 

A friend of mine has recently decided to part with his barely-used NP9570 w/ 3970X for relatively short money. It'll be here sometime next week.

My main goals with it are actually to pare it down a bit. It looks like I can set the active core count with Prema's BIOS mod. Probably set that to 4 for the time being.

I'm also interested in undervolting it, which is something I've had good luck with on Intel CPUs going back to the C2D E6600. Tends to knock an appreciable amount of heat (and in this case, resultant noise) and power use. If it's stable. Is that something that can be done within Prema's modded BIOS, or will that require the XTU to tinker with?

I'm sure it seems odd to castrate such a potent machine, but it's easy enough to take the caps off if I ever need the additional processing power.

 

Hello ALL.....

A SAD day for me realized as EUROCOM has phased out the Panther 5 (Clevo P570WM) completely. Although I knew this day was coming it is nonetheless dis heartening. With many Notebook Manufacturers moving to thinner and lighter chassis this probably will be the last REAL beast of a laptop. I am fortunate to have gotten one of these and I am still in awe of the power it has in the chassis. I will be keeping it as long as I can because i do not want to be forced to use a lower powered laptop with BGA infrastructures. Although i still have my Alienware 18 and my Sager NP9380-S they cannot hold a candle to the Panther 5. Eurocom has assured me that they have spare parts for the foreseable future if i have any problems with mine but i dont know how long that will last.

I have a question for Mr Fox or anyone with knowledge on the subject. I have Dual 980M in SLI in my Panther 5 and since Eurocom uses specialized drivers to update the video cards does anyone know how to get updated video drivers to work with the Panther 5?

 

Are you running the @Prema BIOS? I didn't have to mod anything using it in my Panther 5. Just download the drivers directly from nVidia, unless you're on the stock BIOS.

 

Yes he fixed it to just use standard drivers

 

Hmm, what a bummer! It seems there is no chance to get a spare CPU Heatsink for my Panther....
@ceg-Extreme hasn't it as well and neither other resellers. Only RJTech but with 140 Bucks shipping costs.

Puh, either doing a hard mod or no ocing CPU wise....

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Yes you can't really delid the chip to reduce the surface area you are working with either.

 

I have only had the Panther 5 for a few months so No I am still running stock BIOS because my Panther 5 is still under warranty. I did not want to implement the PREMA mod because it could void the warranty. I also did not want to possibly brick the laptop but I do see the benefits of Prema's mods. I was looking to see if Eurocom was going to update 980M drivers for the Skylake 9 but that may not happen for the foreseeable future. I may not have a choice but to flash the BIOS at some point. Thanks for the INFO fellas.

 

extra core in machine does help, since this laptop can take advantage of 980m it still on par with laptops nowadays however in terms of storage performance and ram size it falls short. 32gb is plenty though.

i'll be sure to get one of these eventually in the future as a collector laptop ha

 

Thats why I decided to get one of these because this is one of the most powerful as far as laptops on the market. Since it has been discontinued there will not be another one like it. The Panther 5 can potentially be more powerful than most desktops. With the option of upgrading parts this will probably be the last of its kind for the foreseeable future. 32GB of RAM is definitely plenty for what i need it to do. Dual 980Ms are definitely beastly when i can get triple digit FPS on most games. I got a 2TB SSD installed with the 1tb mechanical drive so with crystalmark the SSD is getting 525MB/s read and 400+MB/s write speeds so that is cool enough for me at this point.

 

2tb SSD? Which one?

 

I assume the 850 EVO or PRO which are the most common larger capacity ones around.

 

The Panther 5 (P570WM) can be configured with:

6-Core Ivy-E Extreme CPUs or 12-Core Xeon Ivy-EP CPUs
32GB DDR3 2133Mhz ram
3 x 2TB SSD with a Blu-Ray Burner or 4 x 2TB SSD without an optical drive
17.3" 90% NTSC AUO Display or a 120hz 1080p Display
2x 980M SLI
2x 330w AC Adapters w/Converter Box

It is still one of the fastest laptops available, with only the GT80S Titan beating it in GPU performance. CPU wise it's still the fastest laptop available.

 

What voltage were those ran at?

 

They can be ran at 1.275 or 1.2V Does not really matter to much. I think they were ran at 1.275V that time though.

 

in cpu tasks uses 4 cores or less only then the newer laptop would come out on top simply cause mutithreaded performance skylake dominates ivy hard by 15-20% which is a decent jump, after almost 3yrs of wait..

but yea gt80s, gpu power limited lol

 

How did you even get to find out the gt80's are power limited...Can't get anyone to really test that machine to find out what it's suppose to really do.

 

The GT80S supports dual 330w adapters doesn't it? Only reason I can think of it being power limited would be the vBios.

 

Have any links to someone actually with a dual psu and running benchmarks?

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-official-msi-gt80-titan-owners-lounge.769092/page-374

Few posts there mentioning dual psus. One user said it works but the BIOS is limited or something. The connector is the same as Clevo's so there would have to probably be some artificial limitation in the BIOS.

 

Without bios and vbios mods that machine isn't going anywhere fast.

 

I haven't even really started modding the gpu yet. No where near along the lines as another forum member has.

 

I have the Samsung 850 Pro model SSD. I picked it up off of Amazon for a good deal. A guy was selling it for a good price so i jumped on it.

 

Yeah. I got mine maxed out besides the CPU but i am waiting for the price to drop on Amazon because i wanted to get the intel xeon e5-2687w v2 to eventially max out the power. I am running stock now because I dont need to overclock because stock runs pretty well on this laptop.

 

I'm not surprised with those specs

 

thats not worth the trade off of frequency. 4.3ghz hexa cores way better than some 3.3ghz 8 cores.

 

I still have hopes of finding a P570WM that hasn't been benched to death at a good price some day (probably used...ho hum...but I wonder what the builders/resellers did with the ones they didn't sell, despite sales/support being pulled? There must be a few new ones out there at a reasonable price), and I envy every single one of you who have one! It boggles my mind that the quad core 870DM-G is supposed to be a "replacement" for this 12-core capable beast. If a true P570WM successor is ever produced, I will be all over it.

Anyway, I'm wondering if a certain motherboard revision is necessary in order to run 880's, 970's and/or 980's. I believe I read somewhere that the first motherboard version could run the 680's and possibly the 770's, but that even with Prema's bios and vbios mods it will not run anything higher than a 770...?

Also, with Prema's bios mod, what are the top desktop and server processors one can run, and are they motherboard revision dependent as well? I know V2's are OK, but how about V3's, which won't run on the stock bios? I know the 4960X works, but what about the 5960X (which I think is a V3)?

Thanks.

 

I kinda wish I never sold mine. The only reason I sold it was because I only had a single 970M and at the time I didn't have the money to upgrade to dual 980Ms.

Although I still love the P870DM. I prefer it over the P570WM from an overall perspective. Performance wise the P570WM still wins in my book. I had a 10-core Xeon in mine.

As to the motherboard thing. As long as you are using the Prema BIOS, you can use all of the GPUs and CPUs supported by the machine regardless of your motherboard revision.

So you can use 780Ms, 880Ms, 980Ms, and the ones in between.

As for CPUs, here's the highest end ones supported:

Consumer: 3960X, 3970X, 4930K and 4960X. The 5XXX ones aren't supported.

Server: Xeon E5-2687W v2 (8-Cores), Xeon E5-2690 v2 (10-cores), and Xeon E5-2697 v2 (12-Cores) the v3/v4 series are not supported.

 

u know its pretty funny the 2600 range means dual socket cpu and works in this machine LOL. technically u can get something like 1680 v2 or something which is equiv to ivy-E but better binned likely able to clock higher at much lower voltage.

heres the 5.1ghz broadwell E quad core, wonder how real this rumor is.
http://www.kitguru.net/components/c...planning-a-5-1ghz-xeon-for-release-this-year/

maybe that cpu in the next version of p870dm with quad channel memory?