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    *** Official Clevo P570WM | P570WM3 / Sager NP9570 Owners Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by jclausius, Feb 5, 2013.

  1. Zero989

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    The Clevo 570 is clearly the notebook slayer for time to come.
     
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    And if these 980mx's can keep up with the locked down desktop 980's ill be a happy camper.
     
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    You guys are making me feel inadequate for using a 6700k. :p
     
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    Well that kills that plan....
     
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    i can use his or my vbios/bios and still get the same results. provided i have to make slight changes here and there, but for now im on his.
     
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    There's still hope.

    If AMD's Polaris based mobile flagship GPU turns out to be a good performer and is standard MXM, it shouldn't be a problem working in the P570WM then.
     
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    isnt that voltage kinda high even for a 8c/16t? considering thats its xeon at 4.4ghz, is it something to do with p570wm overvolt?

    i have seen bunch of xeons which are great at low voltage high clocks, around 1.3 for 4.4ghz etc
     
  8. Dufus

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    And still married, congrats to both of you and happy Birthday man. :)

    Maybe CPU-z showing VID instead of vcore isn't telling the whole story.
     
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    thats still pretty high.
     
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    Really? Got any links to one running this chip in a laptop?

    I mean, i looked and haven't seen one yet to get a direct compare as to what it will do.
    This will do 1.33V at 4.4ghz and idle at 1.31V. It can idle lower than that (1.285V) but that is a moot point if it won't run when ramped up.

    Edit: I can get some quick "hey look at me" runs before it crashes, but since you have no control over the voltages you need to make it stable at lower vcore, this will have to work.
     
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  11. ole!!!

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    i mean xeon in general not just in this laptop which is why i recalled there is overvolt by mobo/clevo. so u do crash at 1.33?
     
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    No, I do not crash at 1.33V. I will crash at 1.290V and at 1.3010V
     
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    1.33 is good stuff for 8c16t, hows the temp at 4.4ghz at that voltage though as this machine was originally designed for 6c12t. tbh i didnt think there would be a 8c xeon thats unlocked until haswell and above, cause the E cpu for sandy/ivy is 6cores so the equiv would be 6c xeon thats capable of overclocking. what other 8c works in this machine thats unlocked?
     
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    btw does anyone know differences between mobo that supports ivy and sandy E cpu? i know both are x79 chipset but are they just a bios update difference or even without that it can take ivy-E cpu from the machine that original came with sandy-E
     
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    Yes it's just a bios update, there was no motherboard revision.
     
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    u got any idea those crucial ddr3 4 x 16gb ram would work in this machine? from my understanding is they wont but i donno why lol.
     
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    It's due to a limitation in the Intel IMC (integrated memory controller) which has issues addressing 16GB dimms.
     
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    u know what i find strange is that xeons normally work with server ram but in this case even consumer ram works. normally they validate E cpu to work with consumer mobo/ram but we can still just put in xeon into this machine and work, pretty strange though.
     
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    I don't think there is another 8c xeon that is overclockable for this board. quad/hex/octa 1650/1660/1680
     
  20. DR650SE

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    Man, I'm still dreaming of owning a P570WM. In the meantime I'm just slowly adding bigger HDDs to my X7200. Pair of 2TB will be replacing my 1TB drives this week.

    Still fun to read all the crazy upgrades and benchmarks and testing you guys are doing. Is there a successor to this beast? Any other dual get systems with a desktop CPU? I've been out of the loop for a long time.
     
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  21. Meaker@Sager

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    The desktop mainstream platform yes (6700K) with the NP9870 and NP9775.
     
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  22. ole!!!

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    so how did you get a 2690 v2 to OC on multiplier to 44x? i thought only 16** are overclock-able and those are at max 6c. from your screnshot the 2690 v2 isn't ES either.

    edit: nvm looks like i was blind. so it was 16** lol
     
  23. SFVogt

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    A read-out error of the 1.74 version?

    [​IMG]
     
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    Im not sure why everyone is thinking this is a 2690 V2 when it's a 1680 V2
    No read error. Its a 1680V2 based off of the 2690V2. They dropped two cores for this conversion.
     
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  25. SFVogt

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    Because of your CPUz screen.
    [​IMG]


    It's just a bit confusing that appears so. The E5-1680v2 and E5-2690v2 processors based on the same 10 core DIE, but otherwise really no direct connection. Several features.
     
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    I never go by that, because more than half the time that is wrong or incomplete.
    Specification is going to be what the chip actually is.
     
  27. Meaker@Sager

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    Yes it thinks my 4870HQ is a 4710hq :/
     
  28. ole!!!

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    lol meaker
     
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    lol meaker
     
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    so hows the temp for the 8c compared to 4960x?
     
  31. Johnksss

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    About the same. My laptop stays on a a/c cooler pretty much 100 percent of the time.
     
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    Why do you say that when VID and Vcore (core Voltage) can be so different. Where have you seen much lower VID's?

    VID is a requested voltage and what ends up at the CPU is usually a combination of VID, Load Line and load, the bigger the load the lower the core voltage from what was requested.

    Then VID on some boards may just be overridden making it just about meaningless. For instance the maximum VID value is 1.52V, if this OC was showing VID it would show 1.52V or less when it is really using over 1.6V
    [​IMG]

    Usually that is indicative of load line correction kicking in and reducing Core Voltage from requested VID..
     
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    rofl 5.7 ghz, that will burn up the laptop quite nicely. gotta get liquid cooled for dat.
     
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    The converter box works with the 300W and 330W power supply. But you should not mix power supplies.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Yeah, that's what I did. 330w + 300w. Luckily I changed it on time. Fortunately nothing happened.

    Gesendet von meinem LG-H955 mit Tapatalk
     
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    It will load balance to the lowest adapter.
    And the converter box was always meant for the 330W adapter.
     
  39. zdroj

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    SFVogt,

    Noticed the nice 2667v2 you have in your rig. What made you decide on that little beauty? How does it run? Have any numbers or comparisons to anything else you might have run in this machine?
     
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    With a 330W and 300W the balance is not so bad, the chip can't rely on the power supplies being truly balanced as they will never be perfectly matched.

    I think with the 1680 it A) Will bench very well and B) Because he could ;)
     
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    I'm finally starting to put my NP9570 through its paces. The first thing I'm noticing on Win 7 is that the wifi light above the keyboard blinks non-stop...and is quite distracting. I have a Killer Wireless-N 1103 running the Qualcomm Atheros driver 10.0.1.71 dated 7/9/2012. The connection appears to be fine - no stuttering that I can detect.

    Is this normal...cuz it's driving me bonkers?!
     
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    no. that is not normal.
     
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    is this model still for sale>? and if so where?
     
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    Try the electronic bidding sites. Seems more and more are being offered each day...many at ridiculous prices.
     
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    I'll need to get one as well.

    Out of curiosity, does anyone know what the best GPU is for the X7200? Thinking if I don't go for the 570WM I may just upgrade my GPUs till I can save enough.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk
     
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    I'm thinking the blinking wifi light must be a software/driver issue. I just reset the bios back to UEFI and booted from the Win8 drive - no blinking. The bios is the stock one from 6/4/2013...HWiNFO64 reports it as version 4.6.5 (booting into the bios shows bios 1.02.10LS1; EC 1.02.08SA....ancient, I know). I don't want to mess with the bios/EC firmware just yet, as I want to make sure this machine is up to snuff or back to the seller (who made a couple of "minor" misrepresentations about it) she goes. I just installed Win 7 on a 2xSSD raid last night, and performed just about all of the available updates today. So I'm thinking driver/software in Win 7 are responsible for the blinking.

    Some observations re this machine and the I7-3820:
    1. The speakers are atrocious...I knew this, but never experienced it until now. Unconcerned.
    2. Like the screen. AU B173HW01 v4. Have a few other laptops with it. A bit of light bleed on the left and right edges. Unconcerned.
    3. Just sitting on a desk; no laptop cooler; no AC like johnksss...Temperature sensors at idle show the 4 cores between 43 and 46C at 1.086V. Way too high? Was planning on repasting anyway - recommendations?
    4. GPU temps at idle, non-SLI mode, are 37C at .837V on each of the 780Ms.

    Thoughts?

    Oh, one last question. Seems I've been dissuaded by some owners here re: installing Win10. Thing is, I hate Win8/8.1, so I have to use Win7. So what exactly is the downside to using Win10 on this machine? Driver issues in part? From what I've been reading, at some point all new Intel processors will not work correctly in older versions of Windows...so wondering why I shouldn't migrate now.
     
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    Go for 680m SLI and you still have a beast of a machine!

    Gesendet von meinem LG-H955 mit Tapatalk
     
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    Especially with tweaking, the 680m has huge potential.
     
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    your temps look fine to me.
     
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    @zdroj , those are pretty good stock temps your reporting there. I just finished catching up on this thread, which CPU are you using?
     
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