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Takaezo! I was wondering if you were still around. I went back to the beginning of this thread and read every post...including when you began your cooling project. We exchanged a few posts some months back as well.

Funny, I thought of you when searching through an electronic bidding site and seeing a used P570WM for sale for close to $4G! I thought maybe it was yours, but further research proved otherwise.

I purchased a used NP9570 earlier this month for a really good price. It came with an I7 3820. I haven't done anything crazy with it yet, but I have been measuring stock idle temps, though I had nothing to compare them to since it seems most users are running higher processors, and it seems that desktop users have reported some great temps but were running liquid cooling solutions.

Since I lack your expertise, I was wondering about a laptop pad cooling solution, which I want to get before stressing the machine. My research has led me to the SF-19 V2 with USB3.0 ports, but I can't find one anywhere. I know you have your own custom cooling solution, but do you have any suggestions?

 

@zdroj ,
I have been real busy finishing up my Engineering degree, eligible to graduate this spring, but will wait until next fall as I want to get some other elective classes under the belt.

If I recall, my stock idle temps were about 55c, before I did my hydro cooler mod. I am excited to see the unlocked xeon is working well for some people, I never knew that those 16xx series are unlocked.

I just ordered some .5 mm thermal pads that I will try and use on my mofets under the numerous copper heat-syncs I have where my stock CPU sync used to be.

On the cooling solution I would again suggest the same one I describe in the hydro cooler mod. Its a winner in my book, never had any problems and the p570wm will actually fit on it securely. The coolmaster SF-19 V2 looks nice, but I never tried it. The one I have has two flip up stops in the very front of the cooler that help to keep the beast in one spot. See the Hydro cooler mod pictures you can see the stops if I recall.

I also bought a micro soldering station and kit, plus two M.2 mounting ports, and will be ordering the SLI mounting ports for the K5000m's to see if I can get them SLI'ed.

I also will be adding a third h100i hydro cooler to second GPU, and I will attempt to bring the power inhouse/run from MOBO, for the 3 hydro cooler fans (6fans). I should be able to at least clean up my "wire situation" a little bit.

I still need to invest in a pair of 2x330Watt PSU's, as I am runnning 2x300Watt having never tried the 330's

Idle temps for my existing mod are 25c CPU and 27c GPU. Have never been able to get the 4960x over 74c (never throttles).

 

I wrote this in response to some people's concerns about EVGA precision X

@Mr. Fox ,etc.,

My Panther only has a 60 Hz screen the 90% NTSC. I have bricked the screen before using EVGA Precision X, on windows 7. I believe it corrupts the files your talking about flashing. It was when I had the RAM OCed- maxed out and then tried to OC the k5000m's with EVGA, and then i mistakenly clicked launch at start up tab, then tried to OC the crap out of them that is when it bricked. Then I did a blind restore to default from Blank but active BIOS screen.

If you recall I was talking about restoring BIOS settings in the dark. Anyways I wanted people to know that its not just Windows 10 (which I have not installed on the Panther as of yet). I am not sure how this happens, but the signs of the impending screen brick with EVGA precision X is green horizontal trailers/tares when OCing the GPU's. You just have to remember the key sequence to restore BIOS to default. That is how I did it anyway. And DO NOT CLICK launch at start up until you have firmly tested your OC. Noting there are no screen tares or shuttering. I still use EVGA presicion X, I think it is the best one and has the most control. That is it has enough programming to actually push my cards PAST their respective limits....thus corrupting them......not for the average user IMHO. It may be a very good idea to write down your respective startup to BIOS restore to default key sequence before using it. In hind sight that is what I would do. This problem may be more prolific in the 120Hz screens, but I have no first hand knowledge of that.

 

I don't use EVGA Precision X to apply overclock settings at startup. Now I don't use it at all any more on the Panther. I run my GPUs stock all of the time except when benching, so there is no reason for it to run at Windows startup. It still bricked the screen though. It did not do anything to the BIOS or vBIOS. I corrupted the EDID on the LCD. I reflashed the correct EDID to the EEPROM on the LCD and it works again. I used HDMI output with an external display and used Linux tools to do the EDID flashing.

 

Best of luck with the course

M.2 ports?

 

@Meaker@Sager,

The M.2, port =
DIY any Notebook Mini PCI-Express 4mm card Socket/Slot.

I still need to study the mod and find the correct resistors for the mod, if I recall it is detailed in previous pages here.

 

@Mr. Fox,
I read through your fix on the other thread, and I understand what your saying, I was just adding info for others who might experience similar issues with EVGA precision X. Other than that one incident on win7, I have had really good success with it. But like I said I have no experience with it in Win10, or the 120Hz screen.

I recently installed Win10 on another Hp notebook, and I was able to get rid of all the cortana and microsoft edge crap(what a complete violation of privacy in my opinion/took forever). I will eventually move to it most likely on the p570wm, but I have been using the Hp to test drive Win10 so to speak.

Thanks for all the info and instruction you have provided, the way you flashed the EDID is awsome!

 

Same here. No problems with Evga. Been using it since day one. Even when I had windows 10 (Pre-Retail Version) installed, but I do have a 120hz screen, so I'm pretty sure that's why nothing happen to mine.

 

Yes, that's right. The 60Hz screens are LVDS and I believe the vast majority of all affected systems are LVDS rather than eDP. There seems to be a much greater vulnerability with LVDS. I'm really bummed out I cannot use it safely with the Panther any more. I think it's the best GPU overclocking option from an easy of use and functionality perspective. It sucks that MSI Afterburner lacks the functionality. I am using ASUS GPU Tweak now. It's not as good, but it does everything I need it to. The Sky X9 is eDP and Precision X has not caused any problems for me on that machine.

 

Never thought about it till now, but it may rewrite these as well, but since they are made for the higher refresh rate, nothing bad happens. Speculation of course..

 

You can check to find out easily enough if it has been corrupted. Install EnTech Monitor Asset Manager, choose the Real-Time EDID code, then copy and paste it here: http://www.edidreader.com/

If the EDID is corrupt, it will tell you in the web based EDID reader tool as the checksum will be broken.

 

Says it's not corrupted.

 

That's good. It might not work if it was. The corruption on my Panther reprogrammed the LCD EEPROM with code that identified it as an analog (CRT) display and I would be surprised if the 120Hz would work that way. It might, but definitely not a good thing, LOL.

 

Out of curiosity, does anyone have a converter box for sale? Son jammed mine in upside-down which caused it to arc and melt the contacts in the plug. Luckily it didn't damage my motherboard.

So if you have one laying around, please let me know. You can PM me. Thanks!





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woah, try rjtech

 

Nice video It's a bit of a beast to totally tear down.

 

That might have helped me out the first time I took mine apart, but after about 10 times, it's pretty easy now.

 

That's true for most things But I don't think the video is meant for the likes of the verteran on this machine

 

Regarding the wifi indicator flashing under Win7 - seems that the Killer software changes it to an activity light. Found an old thread that stated there was a fix at some laptopvideo forum, but I haven't found it (the fix) yet. At least the flashing isn't due to a hardware fault.

@Kpaxx : Thanks for the video. Quite intimidating! In fact, I have 24GB ram, and CPU-Z states that my slot 1 is empty. Please don't tell me that slot 1 is the slot that's NOT under the keyboard!?!

 

Oh the keyboard is simple to get to really

Worse is the slot under the CPU heatsink that requires taking it off.

 

We all have to start somewhere and at some time....

 

Yeah, that's what I was afraid of. It's some Patriot 1600 memory. I figured that the 3x8 sticks would most likely be located in the "easily" accessible slots, whether or not the seller or previous owner put them in. That slot 1 is a real pain, having to remove, repaste, and reapply a CPU heatsink just to gain access. I'll probably wait until I get a new CPU first, which I'm itching to do but holding off on at the moment.

 

Performance should not really be impacted being in tri-channel anyway

 

LOL x10lols

 

Ummm,...huh? I think I missed it...?

 

I think he is amused by the design decision to have it that way, of course it's harder to trace 4 dedicated channels than 2 shared ones.

 

Ah yes, compared to the M18xR2...

 

@Meaker@Sager is there a fan control software for p570wm? afaik ive only seen fn 1 or w/e key it is to do max fan but from my understanding if its not max temp goes hella high cause fan barely run unless theres some settings to change in prema's bios.

also the two GPUs, are they 2.0 x16 lanes each or 3.0 x8 lanes? esentially the samething but 3.0 is better lower overhead

 

also, if they are only 2.0 x8 lanes wouldnt 980m be too powerful and bandwidth bottleneck?, similar for future GPUs.

 

They are 16x gen2 so the same as a 8x Gen3 in bandwidth terms.

No fan control software out there.

 

Blast from the past. Sold my 980M SLI and "borrowed" 780M SLI from the M18xR2.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10939010

 

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/1202847

Good times

Laptop that was occulas ready over 2 years ago

 

Why sell the 980Ms?

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They did not overclock well enough to suit me. They worked great stock or with a moderate overclock without too much extra voltage. So, I sold them with that disclosure to get money to try my hand at a second roll of the dice on a better pair of 980Ms.

 

780M SLI - http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/10793168

 

780M SLI - http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/5414373

 

No. 3. Possibility of Top 1?

 

Mr. Fox,
Please satisfy my curiosity: What does Prema's 1.05.07EC v6b Eurocom bios have that his vanilla v5 bios does not??

 

Gosh, I don't remember now exactly it was so long ago. It was a test BIOS for Eurocom. There are no new menu options or overclocking features. I think it was for something to do with Windows 10 support and it may have been an EC mod, not the actual @Prema modded BIOS. I'm no longer running Windows 10 (garbage OS).

 

Ah, OK, thanks! I was hoping there was a BCLK adjustment (and that if so, the Eurocom bios would have been compatible with my NP9570) so that I could try to massage my Xeon even just a little bit. Maybe I'm missing something, and I wasn't expecting much for a locked processor, but the v5 bios seems to be locked-down pretty tight for my chip.

 

is it just me or your screen shot of 780m sli and 980m sli much different on cpu voltage. both at 4.5ghz but with 980m sli you need 1.48v thats freaking high where as 780m sli is 1.42v pretty high still.

every considering 1660 v2 though hexa core xeon thats essentially a super binned chip can oc high with less voltage better temp too.

 

The listed voltage can fluctuate a little.

 

They wanted a W10 secureboot bug fixed. I only made that version for their pro customer as it doesn't really matter for any home user.

 

If you are referring to CPU voltage, what you see in screen shots is idle voltage which is usually different than load voltage. But, yes... 4930K takes a lot of voltage and watts at 4.5GHz. I'm not particularly worried about either one. I've never been overly concerned about high core voltage it as long as the overclock is stable and the temps are managed. I know some people are really OCD and freak out about voltage, and I think most of it is displaced worry. I've been running high voltage on all of my overclocked CPUs for a very long time. I only use what it takes to avoid BSOD, nothing more, nothing less, and I use that as a guide on what amount of voltage is acceptable. When no amount of voltage is enough to prevent a 0x124 BSOD I know that's as far as my CPU overclock is going to go.

In Vantage the CPU tests showed on my OSD that the CPU was pulling 205W, LOL. I suspect that the Xeon octacore pulls even more watts. @johnksss and @Kpaxx are both running E5-1680V2 processors. Very nice performance with an octacore CPU, but I have no intention of spending that amount of money upgrading the Panther's CPU. After having access to the Sky X9 for so long, I appreciate the newer tech like DDR4, all 6.0GB/s SATA/PCIe storage, and overall more stable CPU overclocking with lower temps. I plan to keep the Panther because it's still awesome, but I'd rather spend my discretionary money on something nicer and newer. What would be ideal is a Sky X9 R2 with X99 and 5960X support. Hopefully, we will see something along those lines sometime in the next 6 to 12 months.

 

It's pushing 500+ watts without even overclocking the gpu. That's from the UPS onscreen

 

...AND Xeon E5 v3/v4 support!

 

Is that at stock CPU settings?

 

...yes, we want it all. - - Big boy stuff... let the panty-waisted kiddos play Angry Birds with their BGA turdbooks...

 

If I didn't have the desktop setup I have now....then I would have been all over this....

Stock CPU? That is over clocked.

 

That's what I thought. If I recall correctly, you were pushing 4.4 on all 8 hyperthreaded cores, but "things" were not quite to your liking. Were you able to iron-out those "things"? Was Prema able to provide you with the "proper bios support" he alluded to? Any benchmarks?