well yeah but isnt that kinda difficult? or maybe not because the bottom is technically flat. i'd assume the mobo/socket/cpu are fine though.
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It could be a bent pin or some compound in the socket.
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wouldnt normally bent pins would be considered severe that it wouldnt even boot at all?
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It depends on which pins, I don't think it's likely but worth being on the list of things to check.
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then i guess getting a new mobo was the right thing to do lol.
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Well you can physically inspect it, but a new socket would of course fix it.
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need that msata too.
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Im around 4 tb with client data. So not that bad either.
It's still a xeon chip and not all ram may play nice over time. It could be something simple as timings or not enough voltage for the 4 chips to run. Sometimes taking the cpu out and replacing it can do the trick. If it's too tight that would also cause it to have problems....
No worries. I think i was the one that took it way out of proportion and i apologize for that.
And I do understand the frustration level. Been having a very rough two weeks with simple projects turning into nightmares!
I hope the newly flashed bios is what was causing you so much trouble and that that issue can be put to bed.
This one seems to be pretty good, but it din't recover anything from a fully formatted Linux drive for a pbx.
ufs explorer professional recovery.
Always re check the pin contact and that you have enough voltage running for the cpu when it powers back up. BSOD codes can help allot in this respect. That's if you get them when the computer shuts down. -
thats the thing i have had it turn on and just sitting beside it wait for it to shutdown. when it does, computer doesn't restart, no blue screen and no bsod. it just turns off, pretty messed up.
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If you loose a DIMM connection then you wont get much of a log, the system wont continue in any fashion and would just shut off.
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what kind of power settings are you running?
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maybe i'll try a different set of memory sticks.
watts prob around 200 i think didnt check throttlestop
amps setting in bios is twice the default, with default on 8c/16t it'd only clock to 4ghz.
dual psu
dual gpu.
havnet done any gpu benches though, just cpu stress test and stuff, it doesn't shut down in stress test unless not enough vid etc. this shut down thing happens more often on a fresh installed window, or when express card is plugged in. mobo/ram/cpu could be any of those dang it -
anyone got the 7260 intel combo card with bluetooth? i got wifi driver installed but can't seem to see bluetooth under device manager, win8.
edit: so win7 partition can pick up bluetooth just fine but win8 cant seem to do it for some reason, thought i decided to do a fresh install of win8 see if that helped, and yep computer shutsdown several times. during fresh install, during login page on idle etc. i found out that if i change power plan from balanced to high performance, issue doesnt happen as often anymore.. this is messed up lol.Last edited: May 5, 2016 -
How much voltage are you giving it?
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1.24 on VID so +2 only. 4.2ghz, it runs prime95 and burn test just fine though even without +2. it shutsdown randomly on idle.
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4.0 ghz is 1.27V
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is that for ur chip or just in general?. i just let the cpu manage the voltage itself and at 4.0 or 4.2ghz it uses 1.23 or 1.24v.
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At 3.0 ghz it's like between .0900 to 1.1V
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Yeah that's the sort of level most chips should run at around stock.
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yea if its relaly vid though it would not restart on fresh install thats on default clocks. i just went and changed to 4.2ghz on 1.3v see how that goes, gonna leave computer on for about a day. my fear is that in the chip itself, or the mobo, those are the costly ones.
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Hi@all,
please help me !
I wont to OC my CPU in my P570wm Temps are low.
I have the latest mod Bios but i cant find any FSB OC in there.
I allready uped my Ratio to max. I use a 2680 with retail Stepping. (ES)
So i think oc over FSB is my last Option. To do that i need the PLL of The p570wm i belive its an ICS but i cant find further information on that.
Can anyone tell me the PLL of the p570wm ?
Im disapointed in the Bios mod no OC at all just Voltage and multi.
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no bclk oc for p570wm.
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Yes only ratio control in the P570WM for changing speed, I don't think the clock generator onboard supports it.
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It does support it, but it was never written in to activate it.
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There were clock options in the BIOS that I experimented on with Prema but they did not change the clock.
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for bclk? i dont see bclk modification in bios and im using v5 latest version. maybe with that version of bios mod u can see it in bios, then adjust it in xtu see if that works?
1080 performance claim came out from nvidia, suppose to be 70% more powerful than 980
so 1080m would be pretty powerful too a decent 50% jump yeah.
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This was a beta bios a long time ago which we were experimenting with, trust me, I tried a lot of stuff to convince it to work.
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The "header or settings" are there for it, but the files that actually control and implement it are not. So no changing is going to make it work unless those other files get imported into the current bios.
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This system even entirely ignores the ME Firmware settings, so no BIOS / ME Interface modules would help.
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
The honey badger of the firmware world
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is there a need for a different bios if msata port is soldered on?
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Meaker@Sager Company Representative
Yes, I believe you do need to tweak it.
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what kind of tweak? @Prema share the advice !!
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@unityole ,
I just was referencing the CPU (intel) drivers before. Since you have a xeon chip, I was thinking that maybe there maybe a conflict between those intel drivers, i.e. if you had hot-swapped it from say a 4960x or something. Kinda like me using 980m drivers for my k5000m's. It works good in some applications, but occasionally it will screw something or other up and BSOD. (very rarely). This was my meaning behind "CPU driver
I was able to fix my 4TB drive by initializing disk with GPT and then formatting it NTFS (would only format a piece (3.5 TB not the full 3.63). Then converted the partition to MBR using AOMEI PartAssist.exe full version. This, some how completed and merged the unformatted partitions in one fell swoop(not sure how it did that since I didn't ask it to merge the un formatted portion of the partition. )
Now my disk is active and working at 3.63 TB, doing a full disk check now, Formated NTFS, with MBR partition??????
I thought all drives over 2TB had to be GPT?
Maybe I misunderstood the difference between GPT and MBR. Maybe you only use GPT to initialize it and then convert it to MBR in order to format it? Or is GPT only used when you need to install OS on the large drive?
Any clarification would be appreciated, as this drive in this system has been a nightmare.
Should be noted that this problem began by doing a disk bench on this drive, which I believe fragmented the partition tables then misaligned the disk completely on the drive. I used test disk 7.0 to recover data. Tried to use it to rewrite the boot tables but both the primary and secondary part. tables were toast. Although it said it repaired them, because the disk was misaligned to begin with the rewritten part. tables were still misaligned. The disk was about 300GB from being full when I did the disk bench which was not a very good idea on my part.
I tried several professional versions of four different highly rated windows disk partition apps, only the AOMEI would even touch the drive. I had to keep swapping it back and forth between two different laptops, because once you made a change on one machine the change would complete but then the drive would disappear completely, un plug re-plug, no joy. So plug it in to separate machine it saved the changes then make another change on secondary machine, then disk disappears, swap to primary, ect. This was the process I used, and it finally worked. I believe that because of the misalignment, every time a change was made, it was trying to use the loaded part. table (misaligned) and once a change was made that part. table was no longer applicable to the changes made on the drive and then it just disappears.Last edited: May 18, 2016ole!!! likes this. -
maybe my issue came from image from a different chipset and 3940xm, but that wouldnt explain a fresh install or during install it'd shut down. i find it more stable without using battery saving profile, have it running with throttlestop down to 1600mhz and cstate checked, no shuting down so far and its been 3-4 days. john stating 1.27v for 4 or 4.2ghz but like i previously mentioned it could run burn test without bsod at 1.24v.
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I have the mounting pin headers, but I have not gotten the capacitors yet. Thus, I haven't tried that as of yet.
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@Thumper_23 ,
I would not pay more than $1000 for a used xeon CPU. The one in the picture looks "well used". I would be very hesitant, and probably wait until I would save enough $$ for a brand new one. imhoLast edited: May 18, 2016Thumper_23 likes this. -
after i got ram to work that time with 4 sticks, i stopped tinkering with bios and just go through XTU to avoid it all together. i dont shut my computer down often so i guess its alright to have it reset when i do. now im even scared to upgrade to 2133mhz ram cause it might boot with just 2 sticks.
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@unityole ,
I only have the BIOS reset situation when I do a RESTART, my BIOS setting are firm as long as I SHUTDOWN and don't do restarts. Even the restart sometimes works fine, but occasionally on restart it will not post and restart again (usually because I have the OC so high 4.6-4.7 GHz). I have never had a problem with my 1600 Samsung sticks oced to 2133. Is this where your having this issue, that is, when your oc-ing the RAM to 2133? Or is the problem still persisting? -
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I only had issues of settings resets when using intel XTU.
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@unityole ,
try using an older version of XTU, the newest versions suck really bad......atleast for me, this is what I am using and its very stable, just make sure you shut down instead of restart after making changes, you can use restart in this manner. select restart after making changes you want, then before it restarts F2, to enter BIOS, then make sure those changes that you made in XTU are showing up, if not change the values in BIOS to match the restart setting you want from XTU. Save and restart from BIOS(F4).
Now when your posted you will see that XTU is set to the values you choose(cant change short time though except in XTU).
Once you have done this, if you have saved that profile in BIOS under user profile, then just shut down everytime, even if a program asks to do a restart, just shut down and do a cold restart,(i.e. for windows update or the like)
This is the procedure I used to develop my current OC (most stable ever)
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This is my OC for stable 4.6-4.7 GHz, it usually runs somewhere in between.
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Check out the scores by @Thumper_23 on the Clevo overclocking thread. Simply amazing results there using the E5-1680 v2
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What benchmarks have you actually ran? For comparison purposes....
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xtu, ibt and throttlestop thats about it.
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More of a ...."Can you post them so we can see them" Sort of thing.
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u mean the score of the benchmark?
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Sure. Yeah, that's it. The score.
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Benchmarking yourself is fun, but gets far more interesting when you share the results and look for benefits/drawbacks of certain settings vs others.
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