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Holy crap! So it's almost doable. Only a lil'bit hardmodding here and there. Should be easy peasy....

 

Whos board is that with the bios socket?

 

It's mine. I had desoldering the flash chip after a BIOS flash failure. Prema had the idea to use this BIOS socket. The Mod-BIOS testing was so much more comfortable with two spare chips and a programmer.

 

I know. All my boards have a socket.

 

I do the same to mine now too

 

didnt u sold urs?

 

Yes it's a different machine but I still added a socket to this one to play around.

 

@Takaezo @Meaker@Sager do u guys know about clevo fan cable yellow red black, i'd assume black is ground, yellow is control and red is 5v?

i wanna try a simple mod to see if this idea would work. normally bigger cpu fan would spin while smaller cpu fan would not spin at all unless we do fn+1. if red/black means 5v and ground are always there then only thing that controlling smaller cpu fan from not spinning is the yellow cable? I was wondering if I can disconnect yellow cable of smaller fan and attach along with bigger fan's yellow cable so mobo will control and spin both fans rather than just 1.

i have also seen some dell fan with 3 colors but coding is rather opposite which puzzles me so i dont wanna assume.

 

It's a voltage control system, the sense wire detects speed and the controller adjusts fan voltage accordingly. So you would only need to feed power into another device and it would follow the same curve. Just be careful not to overload the header.

 

so to say, if i disconnect the voltage control cable, difference will be just 5v always means fan will run at max speed all the time? unless somehow mobo only gives say 4v to the fan rather than 5v, dell xps m2010 was such a scenario fan doesnt spin at full blast.

theres literally no change to main cpu fan except disconnecting the yellow cable, splice it and going forward both cpu yellow cable will connect to fan cpu fan socket.

 

You have ground, live and sense.

Live is set to a value defined in the ec depending on temperatures in the machine. Sense is just used to check the fan is spinning in the expected range. If you cut it the system would shut down with an EC panic.

 

thats an excellent layout of sensor circuit. so my guess is correct that this would work. question though, system fan control, thats the small cpu fan right? becuase that fan is also for x79 chipset..

 

@johnksss can u do a 4.2ghz run see score compare n stuff. @Takaezo i did what u say a complete shutdown seem to help rather than a restart. but if i have multi boot partition then its no use unlike alienware keeps its clock, p570wm doesn't for sure.

 

Ill do it when i get back in town. Right now i'm in Vegas.

If you crash, just cut power. This will keep the settings when you power the system back on. Or boot something like 4.0 to 4.0 no voltage only amps and it will hold allot longer through reboots. Depends on the bios version as well i think. Ill have to go back and investigate.

 

when u say cut power as in, hold the power button down and force a shut down? or unplug psu and remove battery type.

 

Yep. I don't have the battery in for benching so i just flip a switch.

 

Yeah, that does not give the watchdog timer enough time to flip.

 

LMAO that would do i guess. so i'll take battery off when setting up my settings to find a stable one while benching once all done i can put battery back in.

 

While benching there is no need for it to be in after all, it does not use it for extra power

 

Yeah.., There isn't a modern Hybrid bios in this monster

 

I like to think of it as the Mclarren F1 of the notebook world, manual control and power.

 

I wish there was a way to disable that Watchdog Timer piece of trash in the Clevo BIOS like there was in Alienware. I don't know if this is even available for @Prema to unlock or not, but I'd love to be able to disable it... it's a huge pain in the butt to have to reset everything. The ability to save custom settings as a user default profile is nice, but Prema's latest BIOS for the Panther is the only one I have seen that has it.

 

I don't think it's available for control as usually it's packaged in with the clock timing control IIRC.

 

so enthusiast brothers, looks like dream crushed. skylake-E socket is 3647 pins. with lga 2011 already being so big, this one is gonna be huge and aint no way clevo is gonna make a laptop with this in it now.. sigh.

 

so enthusiast brothers, looks like dream crushed. skylake-E socket is 3647 pins. with lga 2011 already being so big, this one is gonna be huge and aint no way clevo is gonna make a laptop with this in it now.. sigh.

 

Wow! Anyone w/ ties into our laptop benefactor, please, please, ask them to investigate and find a way. If anyone can do it, it will be Clevo.

 

Keep asking and buying the bigger systems and who knows.

 

how do we ask? where do we start contacting lol. maybe you can help us sending in requests

 

On here, this forum is not just monitored by me

 

with exception that we have been asking it for ages and dont see one response from a representative from clevo lol.

 

Comments are passed on and we work with clevo closely obviously. But previous sales data has set a precedent on the level of demand.

 

so you're saying 570wm has terrible sale history? well given fact that ivy E was out 16 months after ivybridge which is the longest for all E edition cpu to come out after main stream i can see why. partially fault from intel. with upcoming skylake x and kabylake x to be released at the sametime to play catch up, theres a chance.

 

Below expectations at least.

 

What hardmod is necessary to get the 980 from P775DM to the P570WM?

 

We're in contact with Clevo hourly and rest assured that the majority of the points raised on nbr have already been discussed with Clevo or we may discuss something new with them that we see on this forum. It's not the answer that people always want to hear, but developing a new platform and chassis requires a huge amount of time, work and money. ODMs like Clevo have to be sure that there is a market for each product that they sell and that the demand is big enough to justify development. In making this decision, an ODM like Clevo will ask it's customers (companies like us and other major direct companies worldwide) what their view is on products and ideas, because at the end of the day it's the system integrators that have to be confident in selling any product that they purchase from Clevo.

The P570 was a very good seller when it was new, but now we have laptops like the P770 and P870 and there is genuinely a very small demand for any laptops exceeding these specifications. As @Meaker@Sager said, it's supply and demand.

 

Or maybe they can just manufacture a one-off special "Fox edition" P570DM X99 + 1kw brick (330x3) which puts the GX800 and GT83 to shame, all being air-cooled and not needing a bulky external dock.

@Mr. Fox

 

double post

 

ha, x99 is very out dated though, it'd be nice for newer chipset from intel for sure that actually supports 64gb of ram and pcie raid.

 

No point in doing a special edition because it would need a total re-design from the ground up and need total validation. If it were done it would be a new machine.

 

wouldnt mind at all if they reuse the same chassis, just different mobo design that would fit into same chassis. imo the heatsinks are pretty decent made able to carry quite a bit of heat.

 

wouldnt mind at all if they reuse the same chassis, just different mobo design that would fit into same chassis. imo the heatsinks are pretty decent made able to carry quite a bit of heat.

 

There is not enough room for cooling, adding another 80-100w is no trivial matter.

 

not necessary, as long as 6c-8c and dont fit in the 10c they would be fine. especially with 14nm power efficiency and consumption is lowered.

8c broadwell E would be similar to 6c ivy E in terms of consumption of power dont see why heatsink will need adjustment assuming same chassis and heatsinks are used.

 

Those CPUs all have the same TDP and while they may actually differ in power that does not matter as far as following intel specs go.

There is no way you can have a machine like that teetering on the edge of thermal oblivion.

 

Hi, does anyone know how to force all 4 fans of the Sager NP9570 to 100% at all times (until we restart the computer or something)? Most fan speed control applications don't do anything, and I have found nothing in the bios about fan speeds.

Anything like this for the NP9570 (Using RW-Everything to change a bit in the embedded controller)? http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/how-to-force-g73-fans-to-100.579780/

 

If you have the hotkey driver installed, then simply pushing fn + (f)1 should do. I think it was the "1"-Button.

 

Yes, FN + 1 (not F1).

 

Indeed, its Fn+1 and not F1.. Made that mistake at first when I started using my P771ZM