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    *** Official Clevo P570WM | P570WM3 / Sager NP9570 Owners Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by jclausius, Feb 5, 2013.

  1. clevo-extreme

    clevo-extreme Company Representative

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    Someone know what is the fastest cpu for P570WM?

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  2. ole!!!

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    possibly xeon 1680v2 if you can clock it high enough, its 8 cores unlocked.

    p570wm got any successor coming up? :)
     
  3. clevo-extreme

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    I have received last week two new pieces with i7-3960x and i want to upgarde for something with more than 12 cores, any tips? Which one from highest cpu is fully compatible with this socket?

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  4. unclewebb

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    Can you post a screenshot with ThrottleStop and HWiNFO on the same screen? Run something simple like the TS Bench so the CPU load is consistent. When fully loaded, ThrottleStop usually reports higher and more accurate core temperatures compared to HWiNFO. Both programs are reading the same data from the same sensors but ThrottleStop works at a higher Windows priority. This allows it to read temperature data from the processor ahead of any other monitoring program. Can you also include RealTemp in your screenshot for another opinion? Are you sure the throttling you are seeing is temperature related and not power related?
     
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    seems same to me.

    ThrottleStop01.png

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  6. ole!!!

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    mines off by about 12-13c, @Solariseir

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  7. ssj92

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    Fastest 8-core that can be overclocked: https://ark.intel.com/products/77912/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-1680-v2-25M-Cache-3_00-GHz

    Fastest 12-core (this is the fastest stock CPU) but CANNOT be overclocked: http://ark.intel.com/products/75283/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2697-v2-30M-Cache-2_70-GHz

    I had this one in mine: http://ark.intel.com/products/75277/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2680-v2-25M-Cache-2_80-GHz

    Ram will run at 1866Mhz no matter what if choosing the 10/12-core locked Xeon.
     
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  8. clevo-extreme

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    Thank you checking in Progress

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    I opted for the 2696v2, for two reasons:

    1. The price. The 2696v2 costs MUCH less than the 2697v2.
    2. 12-core clocks. Since I'm running multi-threaded apps, single-core performance is not as important to me. When running all 12 cores, the 2697v2 runs stock at 3000Mhz, whereas the 2696v2 runs stock at 3100Mhz (I say "stock", although there's no overclocking these CPUs). Yes, a small difference...but why pay WAY more for less speed when running the configuration that is best for me?

    That being said, the 1680v2 was always an intriguing possibility from both a single-core performance and an overclocking performance standpoint (Johnksss can probably attest to this) - and I toyed with the idea of getting one because, as we all know, having the ability to overclock a CPU can make for some gratifying moments. In the end, however, I made what was, for me, the most practical decision.
     
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    Hmm.. what is about e5-2699r v4 or e5-2699a v4 ? What do you think?

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  11. zdroj

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    Unfortunately, those processors are incompatible with the P570WM. The Xeon v2s are the end of the line for this unit. :(
     
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    Okay,

    E5-2697 v2 or e5-2680 v2

    ?

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  13. ssj92

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    Most socket 2011 E5 v2 will work but that's it. No v3/v4/v5 support.

    E5 V1 also work I believe. [1XXX and 2XXX]

    12 cores > 10-cores ;)
     
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    @ole!!! - The 4960X has 6 cores and ThrottleStop and HWiNFO are only showing 5 cores. Do you know why that is happening? Did you turn off 1 core in the bios or in Windows? The 4960X also supports hyper threading. Is that turned off too?

    HWiNFO shows Intel Xeon 3600 while ThrottleStop shows 4960X. Did you originally install HWiNFO or ThrottleStop when you had a different CPU installed? Are you running either program from a USB drive that you might have had in a different computer? After changing a CPU, it is a good idea to delete the ThrottleStop.INI config file so it removes any previous settings. Same thing for HWiNFO but it might have its settings saved in the registry. Best to just reinstall it.
     
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    yea i disabled HT and 1 core was trying something. i'll try reset .ini and reinstall hwinfo all together and see if changes anything thanks.
     
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    ok thanks man will check that, btw isnt real temp sensor and throttlestop sensor the same? you made them so i thought it'd be similar
     
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    I am just trying to see where the difference in reported temperature is coming from. Never hurts to have a second opinion.
     
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    yep all good now, resetting hwinfo64 and deleting throttlestop.ini did the trick.
     
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    not able to change brightness, is that LCD's problem or GPU's issue?

    afaik default microsoft adapter display driver in device manager, can't change brightness under power profile, have to install graphics driver, like iGP or graphics driver for discrete GPU, what about after installing driver and still can't change brightness?
     
  21. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    I mean I have seen some said some drivers is the culprit.
     
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    I have this issue when I use 3D bios for my laptop. however my laptop is 3D model.
    when I flash non 3D model bios, I can change the brightness.

    I tried different drivers and reinstalled windows dozen of times, it seems the problem is related to GPU or motherboard or something else.
     
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  23. ole!!!

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    how do i find out if the laptop is 3D or non 3D and if i have a matching bios?
     
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    3D machines had the emitter installed for 3d vision and the 120hz panel.
     
  25. ole!!!

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    device manager would show it? so if bios is non 3D and the display is 3D and it'll be the cause of this issue, anyway to find out what version of bios if its 3D or non3D? i can simply flash the other one and try
     
  26. Solariseir

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    you can find the 3D emitter in Device manager.

    3DVision.png


    The Bios version can be find in the bios setup.

    I think you can flash 3D and non 3D bios and try, at least this is what I did.
     
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    mine show different, rather than "Nvidia stereroscoptic 3D USB controller" mine shows TEXAS USB root hub.. lol
     
  29. Takaezo

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    Icon Error 3.JPG Icon Error1.JPG

    Has anyone encountered this graphics error before? This started happening about a month ago, and I have not been able to completely solve the issue. I reset registry and it cleared some of them up, but not all.
    Thanks in advance,
    Taka
     
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    Is the corruption always there now or does it come and go?
     
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    It seems to always be there for those particular icons,
    Some others start to look like this sometimes, but a reboot usually clears them up. Except those two in particular never have cleared up since it started. resetting the registry entry for windows explorer, help clear up the others. Windows explorer seems to crash very very often now as well.
    Any advise other than a fresh install?

    Thanks,
    Taka
     
  32. ole!!!

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    try deleting your thumbnail cache .db see if that solves it. or turn thumbnail caching off and back on see if problem goes away. if not maybe part of your window is corrupted.
     
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    Yes it may need a fresh install.
     
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    Did you try sfc /scannow yet?
     
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    Seems I am having an issue with my P570WM. Late last night, when I shut it down, it was stuck on the shutdown screen, with the Windows circle spinning ad infinitum - so I manually shut it down after I realized that it had not shut down on its own a couple of hours later. I tried to boot it about 30 minutes ago, and the screen does not come on at all; the bluetooth indicator lights-up solid; the last three indicators on the right side of the panel flash; the system fan and the cpu fan start spinning full blast; neither GPU fan spins at all; and it stays this way until I manually shut it down.

    I have a paper to write so I'm using another computer and I won't have time to engage in a comprehensive diagnostic procedure until later this week/early next week, but I'm wondering if any of you highly knowledgeable and experienced forum members have seen this before/have a clue as to what might be going on. My research indicates that it might be anything ranging from a bad ram slot/stick to a catastrophic MB failure. :(
     
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    I would take the primary GPU out and swap the secondary into the primary slot and try and boot again. Sounds like it does not like the GPU.
     
  37. ole!!!

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    yea try the gpu fix see if that helps and test each GPU only in primary slot, if not then try doing battery out, ac out, hold power button down 30 sec. if doesnt work proceed to reset cmos battery for at least 30 sec. if doesn't work try testing 1 ram module at a time etc etc then finally onto mobo replacement lol
     
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    Also you may try simply checking unplugging and re-plugging all the fan connectors, a few times in the past I have had kind of similar issues just because the one of the GPU fan plugs was loose and not fully connected.
     
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    did u end up fixing ur corrupted icon issue?
     
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    No, the issue still persists. I tried deleting the .db cache and the sfc /scannow . the desktop icon was fixed, however the drive icon still persist. I tried to reassign an icon to the drive (the same one copied and pasted from a different location), however this did not fix the issue. Is there a location that keeps the device icons like the .db desktop cache? deleting those may clear it up.

    Thanks for everyone's input and advice.
    Taka
     
  41. ole!!!

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    that sounds messed up, reassigning an icon should have solved it. at this point really donno whats going on unless the only thing i can think of is, the "path" itself w/e its assigned to is corrupted, otherwise wouldnt make sense. im out of ideas yo.

    btw, when clevo make a new laptop with coffeelake 8700k 6cores (releases sept 2017), you upgrading to it? could be out near end of the year (sept to dec) or early next yr. it'll be a big jump in memory capacity, storage performance and GPU performance.
     
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    found one
     
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    If there's a GTX 1060 upgrade for the P570WM what is the reason there's no 1070 upgrade? Is it a power problem?
     
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    Probably not a power problem, but it might be a fit problem. It may not fit in the chassis and the heat sinks may not fit. If I am not mistaken, the 1060 can use the same heat sinks as past-generation GPUs.

    Sadly, I believe there are no SLI-capable 1060 mobile GPUs. They were designed for inexpensive notebooks and probably were never intended for use by enthusiasts.
     
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    Either it is a fitting problem or if it fits, it has no SLI-Connector....

    Gesendet von meinem ONEPLUS A3003 mit Tapatalk
     
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    No cards (including the desktop 1060) based on the 1060 support SLI. It's something Nvidia have not supported in anything below xx70.
     
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    Ah, thanks. Good to know. I mentioned mobile because I did not know that. Kind of makes sense. The desktop 1060 is also a low-budget gamer card and probably not something most enthusiasts would be interested in owning.
     
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    Depends on the budget the enthusiast is on really, it's not too expensive and has some ocing headroom with strong performance at 1080p.

    If we are going pre-halo era it would be considered high mid range.
     
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    @CaerCadarn I just noticed your signature. I'm already having fun with this beast. It's exactly what you said it was. MINT CONDITION If it was in the original box it could be sold as new. I appreciate it. Thanks again.
     
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    Hello all! i just ordered myself one of these machines used for 600usd. it was under the eurocom panther 5.0 branding. i was wondering if there was anything i needed to look out for with these units like hardware incompatibilities or software issues with windows 7 or 10. i would like to turn it into my new daily driver for both work and play if possible.

    from the pictures it seemed like it is in good condition. it is currently on its way from sweeden. the listing was pretty vague on its components. stated it had an i7, but not which one. 32gb of ram. has a solid state drive and hard drive, but it didn't state what ones. no mention of video cards. comes with original manuals and travel case no word on if it has just one or 2 power bricks or if it includes the splitter for them if there is 2. no word on what screen it has either. no info on what os it has either. i will update as the unit comes in and i find out all of its secrets.

    i would love to max this thing out and use it as a mobile editing machine or just flat out replace my old fx 9590 + 2x hd 7970 cfx setup. but if it's out of budget or the machine is not fully working or whatever, i can just resell it for a quick flip or send it back.

    tl;dr: what it the best setup for this machine, and would it be worth it to max it out if i do a lot of traveling or want to replace my desktop? any help or advice would be great.

    if there's an answer to any of these questions somewhere in this 425+ page thread, then please feel free to link, as i didn't look through at all.
     
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