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Do you have any pictures or the original for sale posting? Did you buy it off of E-bay?

 

got it off ebay, original listing was just called eurocom. i messaged the user for more pictures, and he sent sent them to just me. not on the listing.

 

Pictures can tell a lot, especially of the inside of the unit. If they're available post some of them. Are there any screen shots of the Device Manager?

 

there was nothing like that. just exterior and it on the login screen. exterior was shiny and had no wear. unfortunately ebay, being as unhelpful as ever, is for whatever reason is only allowing me to download the pictures in thumbnail size... in full resolution it looks good, and seems to have 2 video cards. of what flavor, i have no idea until it arrives.

 

The bottom line is for $600 USD if it works it was a good purchase and worth it, so I wouldn't worry about that. On Ebay Eurocom has an overflow store,I guess you'd call it, it's name is upgradeyourlaptop/ there's a couple processors that will work with that machine. They have the i7 4820k for $240.00 and the i7 3970X for $395.00. Basically there's parts all over ebay for that machine. Also check RJTech.com, they have the fans, heatsinks, GPUs etc. So if the machine is lacking anything there's a good chance you'll find parts somewhere.

 

You can get 980m SLI and 4960X. Or even a Xeon 16XX v2 8-Core that can be overclocked as well. These are true beasts.

 

are the gpu heatsinks universal? because from the pictures i got it seems like it may already have 2 video cards. if i swap them out, can i reuse the heatsinks that it comes with?
could i throw in a 10 or 12 core xeon to turn the machine into a mobile editing rig?

 

I believe the heatsinks for the GPUs should be the same.

You can power it up to Xeon E5-2697 v2, which is a 12-core processor.

This page shows all the processors that are guaranteed to work:

http://www.eurocom.com/configure(2,224,0)


Best 12-core supported: http://ark.intel.com/products/75283/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2697-v2-30M-Cache-2_70-GHz

Best 8-core unlocked xeon supported: https://ark.intel.com/products/77912/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-1680-v2-25M-Cache-3_00-GHz

Best 6-core extreme supported: http://ark.intel.com/products/77779...ssor-Extreme-Edition-15M-Cache-up-to-4_00-GHz

This is the processor I had in mine: http://ark.intel.com/products/75277/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2680-v2-25M-Cache-2_80-GHz

 

if i plan to use this as a mobile editing machine, do you think it would be worth it to grab the 780w adapter vs using 2x 330s?

 

according to dhl tracking, it will be here by monday. i will post an update on specs and condition as soon as i get some time to play around with it.

 

Get the 780w adapter. Way more convenient. Also provides a bit more power than the 2x330W. Although the 2x330W setup is completely quiet. The 780w one is louder.

 

ok. if i see the 780w anywhere i will be sure to pick it up. how loud is it compared to the laptop if it's like under the table?

does the glossy display come in a 120hz flavor, or is that only for matte options?

i heard that the new quadro p5000 laptop card is standard mxm with no extra power. its essentially a gtx 1070 with a few less cores and clock speed, but it has 16gb of gddr5. some people have gotten it to work on an alienware m17x-r4, but only if it has the 120hz display option. so far i havent seen any pop up online. but i'd imagine they'd be quite expensive.

 

You're Panther must have been a beast with that processor. I'm not a video editor but I assume you'd want as many cores as you can afford.

 

For the most part core count is king for that yes.

 

So the new Intel I9 7980XE 18 core or AMD Threadripper, however many cores they have are made for that type of system. I'm sure they'll have a large price tag. I'm not a gamer but is a 4 core still the king of gaming? I hear a lot of guys wanting Coffee lake because it's going to be 6 core or 8 core. Will that help with todays games?

 

Not much. A very few games. But over time, games will be optimized for more cores than today. Same with software.

 

intel x299 platform in general is completely stupid. why i5s? why double the price of amd chips for at best 20% better performance? intel is losing their minds.

after seeing adoredtv's intel video, i've pledged to never buy a new intel cpu again. i plan on building an rx vega + threadripper system as soon as the prices for both of those come down a bit. but until then, the eurocom i ordered should suffice for gaming and editing needs until then.

 

Would a e5 2692 v2 work without issue? uses the same socket, but not listed as an option in the configuration options. its a 12 core piece.

 

Wait a bit if possible. There's word Eurocom is releasing standard size 1080/1070 cards that may fit in the P570WM.

Yup, ripped through all my multi-threaded apps. Still the fastest CPU I've owned to date.

Quad-Core with high clocks is king for gaming still. Although 6-core with decent clocks is probably the best in terms of gaming and streaming.

Yes it should work fine.

 

there's one on ebay right now. it states its for a c602 chipset. the p570 uses a c600. does it matter that much?

is there a mobile rx 580 out yet? i know there was a rx 480. but havent heard much on a 580

 

Should work fine.

Eurocom said they will also be releasing an RX 580 in mxm 3.0b format. We don't know when any of these cards will be released though.

 

i only spent 600 on it. i would not like to spend much more than that upgrading it. the 2692 v2 and a 980m come out to 750ish depending on which listings i look at. would it really be worth dropping 1400 total on this old machine? what would be your recommended gpu upgrade within the budget? the 12 core xeon processor is something i think i would definitely get for on the go editing needs.

 

The GPU is just going to depend on the second hand deal you can find.

 

alright, so the computer arrived safely and in good condition. but it is not a p570wm. its an x7200. first gen i7 930, a single gtx 560m. 14gb of memory, a 500 and a 1tb hard drive. it came with a single 330w power supply. i know that i can toss in a 6 core xeon chip. and because it still uses a mxm 3.0 slot, i should still be able to toss in just about anything i want, correct?

with this not being the p570wm, i think i will just try to resell it. not sure how much i could sell an x7200 for though. i may have overpaid slightly. oh well.

 

Those were the original DTRs right?

I don't know if you should be too quick to get rid of that. It looks Identical to the 570WM. It might be a different chip set but I just checked on Eurocoms website and you can stuff in just about any card. It was called the Panther 2.0 from Eurocom. But I think you're right, it can only handle 4 or 6 core processors. 24gb ram. The good thing is you can still get heatsinks and fans for it if you plan to use 2 cards.

 

i'm going to mess around with it and upgrade it a bit and then resell it. see if i can't make it somewhat capable, unlike now with the 560m struggling to stay quiet trying to run just a simple 4k youtube video. i ordered a 6 core chip and am trying to get a gtx 980m for 300. even if i dont put the 980m in this machine, i will have it for when i do finally get a p570wm.

 

here's some higher res pictures that i took of the unit. for an x7200, its actually in absolutely amazing condition on the outside. just a touch of wear on the touchpad and palmrest. i decided to give it a cleanout because seeing the fans through the grills, they were home to a couple dust bunnies, and i wanted to upgrade the memory to 16gb because why not.
i was not prepared to see a broken fan screw standoff and like 5 separate coats of thermal paste from previous openings. it was an absolute mess and took forever to see shining metal again. after that i put on a fresh, single coat of arctic silver 5, and now the machine is running cooler and quieter than it has in a long time. one thing that baffled me is that there is a PLASTIC COVER OVER ONE OF THE MAIN COOLING FAN INTAKES. why? just why? its like clevo is purposely inhibiting airflow on a computer that uses very power hungry components, and as such needs as much cooling as it can get. i have a feeling someone at clevo got fired for this. i took off the fan cover, and now it seems everything can breathe clearly. i will need to use some jb-weld or something to repair the fan standoff, but since the big fan has 3 other screw posts that were still in good shape, it stays in place and cools the machine with no issue. i will also need to make some new mesh for the now open fan vent. should be a fun project overall having this thing nice and repaired and upgraded.
either way, i never did find the memory sockets. they were not under the main compartment like i thought they would be. where are they on a x7200?

 

Ahh the X7200, the only Clevo I know of that had HDMI IN like the OG Alienwares.

Throw in a 980X or 990X CPU in there.

 

AS5? Does that count as fresh?

 

I thought they were under the cpu cooler and under the keyboard metal plate. Not 100% sure

 

there was nothing but the chipset and processor vrms under the main heatsink. they must be under the keyboard then. and since this is an x58 based machine, that means there's probably 3 memory cards for triple channel use.

 

too expensive. i found a x5680 for 70. its basically a i7 980 for half the cost.

 

The top end parts do tend to hold onto more of their value.

 

Was the X7200 the first DTR?

 

Not even close to the first

 

What was the first laptop to have a desktop chip in it?

 

As in globally or from clevo? Back in the day there was little difference really so the line is fuzzy.

 

Globally and from Clevo.

 

I think there was a laptop with a desktop Pentium 4 CPU before, don't remember.

 

Globally its the first portable machines, at the times they just used the same chips.

The first ones you would probably think of as DTR are the likes of the D900K but you can go back to the likes of the d7tw with a pentium 4 and a floppy drive still.

The line between desktop and mobile just gets fuzzy beyond that.

 

WOW! I just Googled the D900K, A LOT has changed. I bet it was bad ass in it's day. Thanks for the info guys

 

i have a working d7tw. system fan header on it died, so i rewired it to a usb port so its always on full speed. nice machine with a 7800gtx and a 3.8 p4. but it only supports up to 2gb of memory. the d900t can support 3gb, so i would say go for that for better every day use. the d7tw is strange with the fact that it has both a sata and a pata ide port for hard drives. also for some reason it uses a semicircle for a touchpad instead of a square...

 

plagued by constant memory issues, my d7tw works whenever it can post. i usually need to fiddle around with the memory cards a bit for it to show a picture. not sure what's up with that.

 

ok, so i got a nvidia 980m and a xeon x5680. the x5680 is one of the original options that the x7200 could come with. the nvidia 980m does not have an sli finger, and is all green instead of blue like most other 980m cards. i am not sure what the issue is, but with the new card installed, the machine will not post. i tried putting in the original i7 930 that it came with, and it still will not post with the 980m installed.

this is the card i got. can anyone tell if this version of the 980m is somehow incompatible with the x7200? it installed very easily and the old 560m heatsink fits it like a glove.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-980M-256-Bit-/172830949114?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&nma=true&si=jwosi38KossOiEuXrhQHCoEK1eU%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

I think the bios on this machine was a bit older. where can i find a more up to date bios for an x7200? that may fix the issue.

 

I think that's the MSI 980M.

 

does that have any compatibility issues with the x7200?

 

is DriversCollction legit? because i found a 2012 bios for the x7200. the file is unfortunately just slightly too large, otherwise i would just upload it here.

https://us.driverscollection.com/_4...200)-BIOS-update-v.1.01.12-EC-1.00.07SA3-free

 

I don't think any 7xx, 8xx, 9xx class card will work.

 

I am looking to sell my P570WM (Eurocom Panther 5D). Is this the correct forum/venue to post it?

 

Info for you And welcome to the forum