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Hi guys, does anyone know how to solve the issue "you do not meet the minimum requirement to install" with Intel HD driver installation ??

 

You need to be in MSHYBRID mode to install the driver

 

Should I turn it on? Cause it will disable the g-sync I think

 

You would need to put it back in hybrid mode in order to install the Intel HD driver, then after that you can change it back to discrete to turn GSync back on. GSync won't work with hybrid mode on.

 

Does the gsync affect the battery usage? I mean normally a dedicated graphics card will consume more power then an integrated

 

Yes, the Nvidia would use more battery than the Intel HD. That is the point of optimus, to switch to the Intel HD to use less power when you are just doing something like web browsing, email, etc. Then change to the Nvidia when you need the horse power.

 

After installing intel driver, It keeps saying I have problems with integrated driver. Sometimes the monitor just does not turn on lol. Should I just reinstall the OS?

 

It is possible to do a clean install. But you might be able to try other steps before doing that. Do you know what the specific error message is?

 

It says something like graphics driver error and has been recovered. Whenever I turn off my machine and turn it on, the monitor goes black. after some force restart it will announce the error again

 

What's your full configuration? (CPU, ram etc).

 

Hi guys, I bought my p650RE6 in November last year. After 2 months some issues arose, even when I was not gaming, temperatures would often rise to 70-80 c° and the fans would make a ton of noise. And it looks like it only got worse, the noise of the fans is just annoying to everyone in the room. Can I solve this problem? Maybe I'm using old drivers but I'm not sure how I can find that out. I downloaded speccy and it's mostly the motherboard and the i7 6700 HQ that generate too much heat. Can anyone help me with this please?

 

Have you used a graphing program (HWINFO, intel XTU etc) to measure CPU temperture vs usage? Can you post a screenshot of idle?

 

https://imgur.com/IrSYvgL

 

You need to generate a graph of the results so you can look at behavior over a period of time of game play.

 

Hi, I'm very interested in the Sager Np8657S with the 4k screen! Has anybody tested this screen to see how good it is? I saw one review online from a foreign tech journal that said Sager's 4k screen was dim and washed out. Any help would be great!
Jeff

 

It could be worth updating drivers. Also, have you tried updating the Control Center program to see if that might help with the fans? Have you checked the thermal paste to see if maybe reapplying that might help it at all?

 

Updating the control center fixed it, thanks man!

 

Glad to hear it worked! Thanks for the update.

 

Hi everyone,

Not quite sure whether it's correct to post it as a reply, forgive me in advance.
I have a Clevo P650RE6 (GTX 970M with G-sync) for abt. 2 weeks, everything seems to be fine, except for that
I had to completely uninstall a Control Center, cause GPU fans were staying slow no matter the settings, causing GPU to heat up pretty much (tried several CC versions to no avail). Now without CC they work as they suppose to (sounds and feels like "auto"). Though it would be nice to have a working CC, I don't miss it much. Another issue is that while in MSHYBRID mode a formerly called "Optimus" feature doesn't work. When trying to run a game like "Run with high-performance Nvidia processor", it just shows a black screen instead. While being able to run all in DISCREET mode, it messes up a battery life a lot.

Anyone has any idea?

Thanks a lot in advance.

Using latest NVIDIA driver from NVIDIA's site.

 

Can you give me a link to that last Control Centre installation?

Thanks in advance

 

That's supposed to happen because the Nvidia GPU uses a lot of power on the system. On battery, I would strongly advise against using DISCRETE mode and use MSHYBRID mode and mess with Nvidia's control panel to control which programs use what GPU (Intel GPU/Dedicated GPU). That way you'll get ~4-5 hours of low-profile web browsing.

When I tried using DISCRETE mode under battery power (at 40% & High Performance), medium-load web browsing eats up 10% of battery in under 20 minutes which should happen because of the power draw.

They recently posted the new version on their website (I haven't tried it out yet):

http://clevo.com/en/e-services/download/ftpout_download.asp?sno=7944&no=1

 

I am in the market for a new laptop (replacing a P150EM) and am narrowing down to a either a P650RG or P650RE3.

Is it true that G-Sync will not function if the BIOS is set to MSHYBRID mode? I have not seen this disclaimer in the marketing materials. If true, seems like false advertising that if you pay the extra $80 for a G-Sync display that it won't function in MSHYBRID mode.

For owners, what are your overall thoughts on this laptop?

 

Hey folks, my Sager NP8657-S is being delivered tomorrow (from Sager US) so I'm really excited! Got a couple of questions regarding optimization for performance, since it's been a looooong time that I've invested in a higher performance laptop (maybe 10 years ago, so I'm super outdated on recent tech). Specs listed below the questions.

1. What are your recommended settings in the Clevo Control Center for optimal performance, assuming I'm not concerned about battery life (mostly plugged in)? Should I use "Discrete" or "MSHybrid" for the GPU switch? Reading some of the replies here it seems like MSHybrid is meant for variable GPU power draw, and hence performance, depending on your application. Does Discrete mean that the GPU is always running at it's maximum capacity (i.e., no limits on MHz) then?

2. What's a good custom fan speed setting to use, or do you just use the automatic setting? I've seen HTWingNut's setting where they turn off the fan at <50C and on at >60C, is that a typical thing to do?

3. Bios settings: GPU performance scaling - on or off? I've read conflicting reports that this is only meant to enable / disable GPU OC. Flexicharger - on or off?

4. I'm not planning to overclock the GPU or CPU, but does this in anyway under-utilize the laptop (i.e., I could potentially be getting much more out of it)? Also, anything else I should take note regarding using the PC?

As you can see I'm mostly just trying to understand more about the NP8657-S and making sure I'm using it at its maximum potential. Thanks guys!

• Intel® Core™ i7 6700HQ Processor (2.60GHz)
• Nvidia GeForce GTX 970M 3GB
• Windows ® 10 Home 64Bit
• 32GB Dual Channel DDR4 SDRAM at 2133MHz 4 X 8GB
• 256GB Samsung 950 Pro M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD (Primary Drive C)
• Samsung 850 Pro Series SATA3 Solid State Disk Drive (Storage Drive D)

 

Two quick questions:

1) Is there any way to enable the USB 3.0 ports on this laptop to charge my iPhone faster than the normal USB 2.0 rate? It's painfully slow.

2) Did anyone figure out how to wake up the computer from sleep without having to press the power button?

 

Yes, it is true, cause for G-Sync utilization GPU has to be "talking" to a monitor directly, unlike when it is connected via Intel HD card (in MSHYBRID mode). You can find related threads here: http://forums.mysn.co.uk/showthread.php/421-P506-and-G-sync.

Exec360, thanks a lot for your reply, still something is unclear though. The point is that when in MSHYBRID mode, I can run some less demanding games (e.g. "Combat Mission" series) using GTX 970M GPU (right-click-run), all "heavier" ones (Crysis 3, Fallout 4, etc.) won't start. Everything works fine in DISCREET mode. Any thoughts anyone?

 

You need to look at your application optimus settings in the nvidia control panel in hybrid mode.

 

Here's a screenshot of the Optimus settings:


When in "MSHYBRID" mode, you can switch between each GPU depending on settings and programs in use (Optimus). In "DISCRETE" mode, these settings are ignored and the Nvidia GPU is the primary one that is used (which is why the display flickers upon switching).

 

Thanks, done in the first place, doesn't work...

 

Where should I download the latest drivers for NP8657?
Also, is there a Prema unlocked bios/vbios? I saw it from http://www.hidevolution.com/evoc-clevo-p650re-custom-built-gaming-laptop.html

 

Prema is not releasing the bios files to the public for now. Get the base set from us and then update your gpu drivers from intel/nvidia.

 

I just got a NP8658-S and am loving it so far (coming from a Gigabyte P35Wvs).

It came with two squishy blue pads with adhesive backing, and I have no idea what they are for. Does anyone know?

 

I recently bought a P650RE3 laptop from Clevo. The original configuration unfortunately only came with a 1TB 7200RPM HDD. I have purchased a 128gb M.2 SSD with the intention of just throwing my OS and some basic programs on there, and keeping large files in the HDD - thus speeding up basic operations.

I am new to all of this so I am not sure how to do it. Do I just open the laptop, slot the SSD in (do I require screws? Or does it fit in) and just do a fresh Windows reinstall on the new drive (will BIOS automatically recognise it?)

I just bought it so files getting deleted isn't really a problem as nothings really on it. I don't have a transfer cable/copying drive capability

Thanks for your help.

 

But Clevo's drivers are more up-to-date.. or did I see it wrong?

 

Thanks. That thread indicates that the latest versions of Clevo Control Center allow you to change back an forth between MSHYBRID and discrete. Is this true and you no longer have to change this in the BIOS?

 

We have validated a set for use with our systems, for the base drivers it really should be of no importance to have the latest except for the GPU.

 

Are there any Sager laptops supporting G-sync that don't require changing MSHYBRID to discrete and rebooting?

 

Those are extra thermal pads, like if you need one for an m.2 for example.

That is pretty much it. You should have the mounting screw in the system already, most sellers will have that in there. If it isn't in there already, reach out to your reseller for that standoff. You would want to change your boot priority to the SSD over the HDD.

NP97xx and NP9870 from Sager won't need to change the GPU settings in the BIOS, as the desktop processors don't have the Intel HD graphics. There is no optimus or mshybrid, just the Nvidia running.

 

Thanks for your answer. I have 2 more..

1) Do I need to attach those thermal pads on my new M.2 SSD or not? If so where do I put it?
2) OK, so install, then change UEFI boot priority to SSD (I'm guessing it's ESC at startup). Someone also suggested selecting the "fast booted" option under UEFI - but I heard that this is a bit like hibernating, not really shut down. Is this correct?

 

Those pads/bolts are for mechanical SATA HDD, NOT for SSD drive...

 

Yeah, you would be right on that. I was thinking of something else completely.

Fast boot is like a combination of shutting off and using some elements of hibernation to start the system up quicker.

 

Thanks for your help. I got it working up and running. I was a but worried for a second because the SSD I bought had 2 inward dimples and the M.2 connector on the laptop only had 1 outward one.

But it seems to be fine, computer is so much faster now.

 

I'm guessing you are talking about how the drive is keyed. There could be two notches or just one at the end of the M.2. Some are classified as a B key, some are an M key, and then there are some drives that are B+M and have both notches to be compatible with about either type of system really. If you have something like an 850 Evo, those are going to be B+M.

 

It is a permanent switch until you flip it back even after restarts and power downs. You can't get g-sync in optimus mode as the panel needs a direct connection to he nvidia chip for G-sync to work.

 

Hey, I have the Clevo P650RG with the regular 1080p G-Sync screen and I read somewhere in this thread that the display could be overclocked to 75hz. How can it be done? So far the highest refresh rate i managed to get working is 64hz.

 

Every panel is different and some may not overclock much. It's don't by setting a custom resolution, you can try to see if there are gaps of frequency that won't work with some higher ones working but it would be unusual.

 

Well, I've had my P650RE-G for about 2 weeks now, and I have to say whilst I'm happy with almost everything about it, I'm extremely disappointed in the battery life. The review on notebookcheck suggested they got 90 minutes with max performance and 100% brightness (including utilising the GPU) however I'm finding that I'm only getting ~50-55 minutes when playing Witcher 3, and that's with 40% brightness, power config set to Power Saver (including overriding the max CPU to be 50%), and using nVidia battery boost set to 30 FPS. Not sure if this indicates some problem with my battery, but it's definitely not what I was after

FWIW, the specs I've got are i7 6700HQ, 16GB RAM (2x8GB), 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB 7,200 rpm HDD, 6GB 970m (G-Sync), 1080p screen.

 

I never game on battery, but that said, an hour is actually good for a modern 3D game. I have the 980M model and I am sure it would only last about half an hour playing Witcher 3. These are made to be plugged in when gaming. If you wanted long battery life you would have to use intel graphics, which will be real slow. I was able to play old games like half life on intel graphics nicely, but not any modern game.

 

So no one has figured out how to wake up the computer using the keyboard or mouse? The only way is to press the power button?

 

Something else I just noticed regarding my battery; on the train trip home tonight by the time I got home the battery section of my laptop was very hot. Not unbearable, but certainly hotter than any other part of the laptop. Anyone else find their battery gets hot while gaming?

 

Two things: you have a ~60 Wh battery in these units. Your components, CPU and gpu, draw roughly 160W (100W gpu, 45W CPU, few W for screen mono etc) at full load. Let's say that while on battery everything runs half speed, it let you with a rough 70-80W consumption, which will last less than an hour on said battery.

Believe me, 55 min on such a demanding game as TW3 on battery is very good. And you were not fooled by notebook check, their load battery test is just not continuous gaming (blend of gaming browsing etc).

As for the heat, when you use power quickly from a battery (and any battery) it heats up more than during normal use. Therefore when gaming on battery yours heats up, which reduces a bit its lifespan.

Unfortunately gaming laptops are still quite constrained when running on battery, and you have to accept some trade-offs when doing so.