*** Official Clevo P650RG, P650RE3, P650RE6/Sager NP8658 and NP8657 Owner's Lounge ***

Could we use NP9870 backit keyboard for NP8657?

 

No, the cabling is different.

 

Thanks. Could you please clarify if there is any keyboard option/replacement for 8657 with glow keys and not simple/original backlit?

 

None that I am aware. ROB keyboards require extra signaling for the different colours.

 

Thanks. This is really helpful. Could you please also let me know if there is a guide on how properly install the antennas of 3g/4g m2 module?

 

One year later I am still enjoying my XMG p506/Clevo p651RG. One occasional annoyance is the batter life, especially since I use Ubuntu 99% of the time, and on a good day I get ~2 hours, though on Windows I can get more due to proprietary drivers.

Can anyone recommend an external battery that works with these Clevo models?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions!

 

External battery? No such thing for these as battery is sealed...

 

He means like an external thing to lug around that you can plug into the mains power.

Anyone that can give up to the rating of the brick and outputs 19v with a 5.5mmx2.5mm tip. Not going to be too many of those most likely.

 

P650RE owner here. Reformated laptop and now camera is not working. Can someone link me the W10 driver for the camera?

 

It's built in. Make sure you have used the keyboard shortcut to turn it on.

 

I can't seem to get Windows 10 Creators Update to install properly with the GTX 980M in discrete mode. I had to do a clean install on P650RG-G so the update would install properly. After being able to install the Creators Update, I am now unable to install the latest Geforce driver which crashes and restarts midway through the installation. I tried installing Clevo Control Center, the laptop and it also kept on crashing and rebooting. I had to switch to Hybrid mode in the bios to fix the problem so now I'm stuck using the integrated graphics.

Any ideas on how to get my GTX 980M to work with the Creators Update?

 

Hi

@Prema So I guess it's been a while, but I did finally get around to trying this. I put the file on a FAT32 drive as mentioned, and held down the FN and B keys. However, the computer does not seem to read the drive. On power up the LED flashes quickly two times, then stays off. The computer restarts, and then after a while (still holding down keys) the cooling system goes full speed and the three LEDs across the bottom edge flash green together. Then it powers off.

Any ideas why this might be doing this? There is no video output on the display at all at any point. I've tried the procedure with two USB keys.

Thanks!

 

Same problem here.
I upgraded windows while the computer was on MSHYBRID.
When i try to change to discrete mode the GPU drivers are not detected correctly.
When trying to install the new driver while the computer is on discrete mode it crashes.

 

I've sent feedback about our issue to both Nvidia and MS. They haven't gotten back to me but NV just released a hotfix. I don't know if they addressed the crashing/restarting issue but I'll be testing the hotfix tomorrow when I have the time to see if this driver fixes the issue we've been having.

"This is GeForce Hot Fix driver version 381.78 that addresses the following:

-Fixes Windows 10 Creators Update booting to a black screen on certain notebooks"

http://international.download.nvidi...top-notebook-win10-64bit-international.hf.exe

 

It might be worth taking an image backup in future before diving into the bigger updates.

 

I'm pleased to report that the 381.78 hotfix driver fixed the Windows 10 Creators Update crashing/rebooting problem I was having with the dGPU in DISCRETE mode so now I have G-Sync working again, Yay! Kudos to Nvidia for providing a quick resolution to the problem.

Yep. I pretty much wasted my time doing a clean install.

Actually, I should have waited before updating to the creators update or any other major update until these kinds of bugs are ironed out.

Lesson learned.

 

Yes don't be the Guinea Pig! Let others hit the pitfalls first who have less data to loose.

 

Howdy all,

Shot in the dark, and a long shot. I have the XMG P506 with 980m. Is it possible to change it to a 1070/1060 or are they soldered on to the MB. Is the only gfx upgrade option a new laptop?

 

Yes and Yes.

 

Thanks for the answer. Off I go to find a new laptop.

 

If you sell your laptop and add the cost of a MXM card, you will probably have the money for a new laptop.

 

The 980M is pretty similar in terms of power to the 1060, a little tweaking would get you there. You would be better off value wise waiting for the generation after this one.

 

Agreed.. Better off saving the money for the next gen

 

Chill bro the 980M is still pretty potent. The 1060/1070 are going to be replaced soon so just enjoy your 980 for a while longer.

 

Usually buying a high end chip lets you skip a true generation.

 

Hi. Can someone link me a cable replacement for the motherboard-monitor cable. I'm having this flickering issues as seen on this video: https://streamable.com/8c9z6 . Only way to fix it is by putting the lid down and up again and again until it's okay. Someone pointed out that it could be a damaged cable so

 

Hey antonigaming,
I had a similar problem on mine. I found if I put pressure top left above keyboard it would stop flickering. So I subsequently opened up the back and unplugged and replugged the monitor cable on motherboard and it seems to be behaving since.

Sent from my SM-G906K using Tapatalk

 

I see. I'll open it once my new screwdrivers are delivered. One thing weird is, whenever the flickering is frequently happening, when I open a new tab of Chrome and typed, it always turns off my display. Then I'll put the lid down and up again, repeat the process, and would turn the screen black again. Restarting my laptop does the trick, but the boot up flickering still persists. Idk, I kind of lost hope for this problem. I'll try to reconnect the cables tho

 

where can I get a replacement/extra charger for the 8658?

 

We offer them direct (accessories bottom left of our front page).

 

Just wondering, would MSHYBRID mode provide better performance for games as the background UI tasks would be running on the iGPU while the game would be the only thing running on the dGPU (as opposed to everything running on the dGPU when in discrete mode)? Or is it negligible?

 

It performs pretty much the same, there is some overhead from the process too and it all cancels out.

 

Hi guys, a quick question. I was having some monitor issues a while back on MSHYBRID mode and switched to discrete and it was all fine. However my battery life suffered but I hardly used it on battery back then so it wasn't much of an issue. Recently I have been using the laptop on battery more frequently so I decided to go back to MSHYBRID, and everything is fine, I sorted out my monitor issues as well. However I noticed while gaming, I get 85 C temperatures as opposed to 75 C on discrete mode. Is this normal? Why is there a 10C increase from switching to MSHYBRID?

 

Are you certain you are comparing the two under identical conditions?

 

Near enough. Position, ambient temperature, etc are all the same. Playing the same game as well. I can't remember the last time I even saw 80 C ever, yet in MSHYBRID it shot straight up past 80s fairly quickly.

 

It's hard to say exactly what might be going on then, but you could compare graphs and see if one is spiking then dropping or if they are consistently offset.

 

I have a query with regards to modding a BIOS - I found this thread http://voltground.com/haven/threads/102/
which details a relatively simple way of opening up additional options in the BIOS - I've followed the steps (using a newer version of AFUWIN) to dump the BIOS, and (so I believe) have successfully enabled hidden options in the dump using AMIBCP.

Here's the kick - This seems way too easy, so I'm rather hesitant to actually write the new BIOS, especially since I can't find other references to people using this method on Clevos, despite the BIOS being the same skeleton (Aptio V). Are there any glaring issues with continuing down this path that I'm missing?
I know that most of the CPU clock settings can be changed using the Intel XTU BIOS Enablement Tool that came with the laptop, but it would be nice to be able to set it directly.

Thanks

 

I think I may have figured this out.
On discrete mode, it seems that thermal throttling kicks in quite aggressively at 78C. On hybrid mode, there doesn't seem to be any throttling at all.. at least not up to 85 C. Hasn't gone beyond 85 C so dunno if it ever kicks in or not. This is interesting though, as I actually wouldn't mind stalling the throttling to about 80 or 82 C anyway, I feel 78 C is too low.

Anyone know why hybrid mode doesn't throttle the nvidia GPU the same way as discrete? 85 C is a fairly safe temp is it not?

 

I wonder if it was set that way because Optimus mode uses the Nvidia GPU less, and thus it can afford to run at higher temps when it does? It makes zero sense to me, but it could also be an oversight as there are two separate vBIOS installed - one for each mode. Maybe they flashed the Discrete one from another skeleton and forgot to up the max temp?

=====UPDATE=====
On further inspection this seems to be something of an oversight - the GPU does not thermal throttle at 85 in MSHYBRID mode - in fact, 85 is the point where the GPU fans kick in at nearly maximum speed, preventing it from going above 85 - I just tested this with a 190MHz core OC and 800MHz Memory OC, and even then the fans keep it below 85 while using Kombustor.

So, that begs the question - why are the fan profiles static across Optimus and Discrete modes? You'd expect Discrete mode to be the higher performing one, but it's crippled by both a lower TjMax and a mismatched fan curve. On the other hand, Optimus mode literally handles whatever I throw at it, because the fans max out before the thermal cap is reached.

Oh and don't try flashing the Optimus vBIOS in Discrete mode - it's not UEFI certified so the system won't boot the GPU and you won't be able to see anything. You'll have to use remote desktop to fix it and hope that nvflash doesn't give you too much grief.

 

Ah, thank you for this investigation. So this begs another question - should one ironically stay in MSHYBRID mode to get better performance out of the dGPU?

 

I would say so, yes - unless you need functions like DSR or FastSync, stay on MSHYBRID and overclock the GPU, and the fans will keep you safe. Once the max fan speed was triggered at 85 degrees, it slowly cooled the GPU down to 79 where it stayed for the remainder of the 30 minute stress, so you'd be easily getting better performance out of it without overheating

 

That was my thinking as well. Just a little annoying is that sometimes Shadowplay/Share comes up disabled when I start a game (on hybrid) so I have to go into GFE and disable/re-enable it. And other minor glitches due to the intel gpu. Maybe I'll just set the system to use the Nvidia for everything by default.

 

Hey, I was wondering if anyone has had any luck getting audio switching between headphones and built-in speakers working while using the Realtek audio drivers? Currently whenever I try to use the Realtek drivers it combines the headphone jack and built-in speakers into one audio device, so the headphones have to be unplugged to use the built-in speakers. It also prevents playback of sound through both speakers and headphones at the same time.

Right now I'm using the Intel audio drivers, which work as intended; I can use the Windows audio flyout to switch between headphones and laptop speakers without unplugging, and Audio Router works to play spotify through the speakers while game sounds go through the headphones at the same time.


The only reason I'd like to use the Realtek drivers is because it's needed for XFi-MB5 to work - I'm using Viper4Windows as a replacement on the Intel drivers at the moment which works okay, but it was a headache to set up.
Thanks

 

It looks like some chips driver panels have that ability, see here:

http://www.spyontech.com/how-to/her...ek-hd-audio-plugged-and-unplugged-problem.htm

You may need to hack the drivers to get the options to appear.

 

posted the same issue nearly a year ago. from what I gather, in my case, switching to discrete mode pretty much renders the fan curves non-operational. i can toggle fans to run max through the keyboard shortcut but there is no temp-based fan speed ramp up unlike when running the laptop in MSHYBRID mode. I can't for the life of me figure out why that is happening though.

 

I dont have the laptop(yet)
but on desktop, to remedy this issue on Realtek HW, you can go get the ( http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads...=24&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false) version in blue (64 bit for this laptop)

It may say Driver only but this will install the Realtek sound manager, the icon will be in the tray.

Open it, at the top right click the gear icon and at the bottom you can see radio button to set it so each input is "separated" this will allow you set each "device" as the playback device.
hope that works on this laptop.
(still editing, needed to reboot, saving post) was going to post images but on this work PC it installed the old-gen manager that does not have the option(s) above.
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On to my reason to come back here, does anyone know if theres a way to figure out warranty and where the laptop was purchased from the S/N or MPN...?

 

Another observation, I play a lot of Overwatch and on discrete mode, the game becomes unstable even at minor GPU overclock (eg +30 core), sometimes it willl run for several hours, sometimes minutes, but the game will 100% crash at some point. Meanwhile on mshybrid, I've been using +115 core / +300 MHz mem for over a week now and not a single crash.

 

has anyone found a Power Adapter alternative for this laptop? I live in Canada and a replacement power adapter alone is $200!

 

From another thread. Just be sure that your original power adaptor is 180w. If it's 230w, it's a no go.

 

Yep, just make sure it's a genuine brick with the right tip, polarity and voltage with enough juice compared to the original.