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What's the average a 7820HK undervolts to? I noticed it has a default offset of -0.09mV, I've been playing a bit with it today and got it down to -0.120mV which dropped the temps down an extra 3-4ºC across the board, with -0.130mV it locks up after a few mins, I'll try to narrow it down a bit more to see if I can squeeze an extra 1ºC.

I also tried OCing, got it to 3.9Ghz but it temps gets into the high 80's low 90's, so very near throttle territory and it seems to hit the power limit according HWiNFO, not that I'm very interested in running high overclocks on a laptop, but I was curious to see how far I could go without liquid metal/modded bios.

 

There is no real average as every chip is different, though that kind of undervolt is within what you might expect.

 

Thought so, same deal with desktop CPUs.

Played around some more, the undervolt was locking up the laptop because I also had the cache way undervolted and I forgot to up it back to reasonable levels, ended up with -0.150mv on the CPU and -0.120mv on the cache and it seems stable for now. As for OCing, it seems to be stable at 4Ghz with a -0,120mV undervolt but it hits the powerlimit sometimes, if I go higher I meet thermal throttle plus more aggresive power limit throttle.

Very happy with the CPU.

 

Just got a new P650HX as a replacement computer from Mythlogic. Within a few minutes on wifi, an issue came up: Chrome will suddenly freeze up, my download rate will drop to 0 and any streaming services will stop working. It seems like a wireless card issue. I'm running an Intel 8265AC; have other people in here had issues with the same card? If so, what have you done? I really don't want to send this back to Mythlogic as my last support experience with them was a nightmare.

 

Hi guys.

I want to ask if this temps for gpu and cpu is normal? Fan is running on max. Playing witcher 3 for 1 hour and this is my result. Gpu is steady on 73-74 deg C and cpu reach 77-82 deg C and sometimes spike on 84-85 but now always. Room temps is 28 deg c.


My unit is Sager NP8157
7700hq
Gtx 1070
120 hz

To those who have same unit as mine please share your thoughts. Thanks

 

Wow how were you able to undervolt the core and cache separately?

I cant seem to undervolt separately using XTU, they also have the same undervolt.

Maybe its also because I am using only a 7700HQ

 

I used ThrottleStop, haven't used XTU in years so can't say if it's that or the 7700HQ can't undervolt separately, I'm sure someone more knowledgable will chime in and clear it up.

 

It is the same silicon after all as the desktop chips.

 

To Audiophiles:
Q- so far been using usb to connect my external dac/amp, then to my headphone. Now I want to use the laptop dac, then connect to a tube amp, then to my headphone. What are my options?

There are three jacks apart from usb- 3.5mm, mic and line out on my laptop. Im confused with the 2in1 3.5mm/spdif vs the line out jack.

My tube amp has a line in and out (L/R) jack where my RCA cable should go in.

Appreciate your help!

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Using a 3.5mm spdif optical jack cable you can get optical audio out for the purest experience. For the best analogue out use the headphone out jack.

 

Did the P650HS-G ever get Prema's BIOS?

 

Thanks. So how does the Line out jack differ?

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Quick questions :
-what is the average battery life on "basic" use for the 1060 model and the 1070 model ? I'm still trying to decide which one to pick.
-what means do we have to save up some more battery time ? I have no experience with laptops. I hear a lot about undervolting, what exactly is it ?

Tanks

 

The 1070 in discrete mode gives 2h. Hybrid mode more than 3 (avg time for most gaming laptops). As a gamer I always keep it in discrete and my laptop is 99% of the time plugged in though. If you play games battery life on a power hungry 7700-1070 machine would be least of ur priorities imo. More than battery, cooling solutions take more priority as the kaby lake 1070 combo are thermal beasts

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What is everyone's idle temps with an 7700k on a P650HP chassis? Watching youtube, sitting on a desk it's idling at 45-50C... I had a 7700k on a mATX build before and under the same circumstances it reported arond 25-30C.

Is this sort of within the same range as everyone?

 

I expect being plugged whenever I play. However I'd like to be able to use it on the go if I need to for exemple visit a friend to finish some work.

I know a 1060 is enough for current games ; but we cannot tell yet if a 1060 will still handle 1080p games in ultra in a year or two. A 1070 would make it more future-proof for gaming ; but not sure if battery life will be affected that much.
I've read some people saying their laptop only lasts for a bit over an hour ; other people say they managed to push their 1070 one to last above 5 hours...

By regular use I mean mostly text editing and programming ; I'm not even sure if web browsing would be necessary.

My two options would be these models :
http://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00225648.html (1060, SSD 525GB, HDD 2To 5400rpm, 16GB RAM)
http://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00225710.html (1070, SSD 240GB, HDD 2To 5400rpm, 16GB RAM)

As I said, I'll mainly use it to play at home and plugged ; but I want to be able to use it to work (mostly programming, I'm in an engineering school) without having to be plugged all the time (but we don't need to bring it to school ; it'll be more for group works). What would you advise ?

 

I have similar temps, the only difference being I have a 6700k on a p650rs-G.

Idle on a desk is roughly 42-45C depending on if I attach my second monitor or not.

I believe that's well within normal temps. Also bear in mind, I guess depending where you're from, it's still summer and ambient temps are pretty high as well.

Cheers!

 

Well pretty much 3-4h hybrid with light tasks, 2h discrete with light tasks. 1h 1080p gaming.

You can probably push the magic no. Of 5h in hybrid by switching off a lot of features. Practically won't mean much as there is a wall socket everywhere.

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Yup. Video and browsing around 40-50 CPU.

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IIRC line out is a processed output so analogue from the original digital source and at the mercy of the internal DAC.

SPDIF is a pure digital out so with a good DAC/AMP you would get the best result.

Not an audiophile personally but that's what I remember.

 

Thanks. So spdif output needs an external dac. While 3.5mm and line out don't. Is there a reccomendation which one is better for an amp - 3.5mm or Line out? Both are analog signals and I am assuming that 3.5mm is already amped therefore the Line out seems to be a correct choice for the direct connection to an external amp.

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The line out is designed for an amp I believe.

 

are there any new version of bios for P650HP6-G accessible for public use?

 

Re-sellers stopped offering them for download due to the number of people bricking their systems.

 

I thought that there should be some protection (verification) if bios not for this model + power check ...as usual for any other laptop
anyway how can end users find/flash latest bios?

 

There are similar models and people were ignoring warning and force flashing (which is needed in some limited situations).

You can contact your reseller for the latest files normally.

 

my resseler doesn't exist any more(( that's why I'm asking here that question.

 

Try going to another local reseller and explaining the issue to their support.

 

Notebook is bought in Netherlands, my location is Latvia. Local resseler doesn't exist. There should be another way.

 

There are other european sellers like XMG who could hopefully help out. It's down to them of course but no harm in asking.

 

For anyone interested, on my P670HS-G (which has the same storage configuration as P65x), I currently have this:

1 x 512GB SAMSUNG PM961 M.2, PCIe NVMe
1 x 1TB WD Blue SSD, M.2 (22x80) SSD, SATA III
2 x 7mm SATA HDDs

This configuration works without any seen issues. I'm referring in particular to the 1 PCIe NVMe + 1 M.2 SATA combo, which Clevo says it's not supported. Indeed, I checked my pdf manual and it states:

" M.2 SSD Limitation
When slot 3 has an M.2 SATA SSD installed, then slot 2 will not be available for M.2 PCIe SSDs."

Having said that, I can confirm that both SSDs are mounted in my system and they work properly, I've made some tests and I've seen no significant drop in performance over the advertised speeds for each one.

I'll post some pics when i get home.

 

Note that the first SATA port (SATA Port 0) is seen as not present in the BIOS screen, since the slot is occupied by the NVMe SSD - I added another snap just below.

 

So I've noticed since I've updated the "control center" app via Obsidian tools the CPU/memory overclocking button no longer brings up the interface to do so, the GPU overclock button does and functions as normally. Anyone else notice this? I'm have the Elucktronics P650Hp6-g and the control center version is 5.0001.1.21


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We removed the OC stuff from control center.
It uses a XTU service that we are even disabling in our BIOS.
Use proper tools to tune the CPU, i would recommend Throttlestop.

 

John , thanks for the reply. I've used throttlestop to undervolt and setup my battery and AC profiles but I was mainly looking at the CPU overclock tab to do possible memory OC/xmp. Is this possible with my model, and if so what's the best way to go about it?


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Memory OC never worked with that Control Center OC thinggy.
You either do it in BIOS or you cant do it.

 

There is the ability to set XMP via the bios so I guess I'll do it through there when the time comes to upgrade the RAM. Do you happen to know the max ram MHz this laptop is able to support via xmp?


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2666 should be the best profiled speed.
I think anything above that needs you to manually set it up, i might be wrong

 

So I just spoke to Elucktronics and the rep was not sure as far as the MAX frequency for the ram my laptop could handle. I'd like to throw some faster memory in it but don't want to waste time or money if 2400Mhz is the max for the chip/mobo


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Well we do sell those units with up to 3000mhz, but while the 3000mhz needs to be manually adjusted in the BIOS, i´m not sure if 2666 are automatically set or not.
I will test it and come back at you as soon as possible.

 

Awesome John. Thanks for looking into it


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Hi all. Has anyone used this particular dock with their P650HS?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01FKTZLBS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3HIHADV23VGU1&psc=1

I'd really like to have a single cable solution for video, mouse, keyboard, sound, Ethernet. I don't care about power. Is it possible for the USB 3.1 gen 2 ports on this laptop to deliver 3440 x 1440 @ 75hz to a monitor via display port over USB? I'd be interested in hearing your feedback.

 

Throttlestop VS XTU question:

When using XTU i can only undervolt up to -121mv, since both cache and cpu volts are linked.

When using Throttlestop i can undervolt up to -141mv for cpu and -121 for cache.

However, I do not use the throttlestop undervolt since I have observed that whenever I use its undervolt , my idle CPU frequency only goes as low as 1098mhz.

When using XTU my CPU idle frequency goes as low as 798mhz.


Anybody else experiencing this? Higher idle clocks when using throttlestop to undervolt?

 

Nop, no problem going with bellow 1000mhz idle here.
But before you waste too much time with it, what´s the power drain @ 1098 and @ 800 ? The difference should be so small it will play no role in anything.
Have you tried using Speedshift? A higher Speed Shift - EPP value will make your idle lower.

 

Tried throttestop further

Cache voltage I was able to go as low as -125mv

CPU however I was able to take to -300mv, and still stable running stress tests and games

I am kinda scared though, is too much undervolting bad?

I feel i can take it lower, just waiting for your advice guys.

My CPU is 7700HQ.

-300mv undervolt brought down temps a lot.

While gaming for hours on Witcher3:

CPU - 65-73c
GPU - rarely reaches 72-73c

I have never experienced these low temps ever.

Usually when I play Witcher3 the area above the keyboard feels hot to touch, now it only feels warm.

 

Hi your temps is very good. Im playing witcher 3 for about an hour and my cpu temps is 75-80 deg c. and gpu is 78-79 deg c. While the fan on MAX. Undervolt both cpu and cache for -125mv. Whats your temps before you undervolt the the core to -300mv?

May i know your exact unit?

Mine is Sager NP8157
i7-7700hq
Gtx 1070
120hz
8gb ram

 

We have the exact same unit.
7700HQ + 1070

I live in the Philippines where its particularly "warm" all the time.

My CPU temps after repasting Kryonaut are:

Witcher 3 for about an hour.

CPU -125mv: 75-86c
GPU -125mv: 79-84c
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CPU -300mv: 65-73c
GPU -125mv: rarely reaches 72-73c

I would like to push my undervolt more, I am just waiting for advice from other members if there is any downside to excessive undervolting.

 

I live in the philippines also bro. Are you a member of GLP Group? Anyways can you add me? Heres my name in FB Chriz Granada. So that i can ask you more about that undervolt.

 

I havent heard about the GLP group, anyways I will add you in facebook.