*** Official Clevo P65xHS(-G), P65xHPx(-G) / Sager NP8155, NP8156, NP8157 Owner's Lounge ***

Internal panel on and off.

 

It will turn your LCD screen on and off.

 

turn on and off the screen

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Just the internal one, the external screens are not impacted. It means you don't have to close the lid if you don't want the screen to distract you.

 

I just noticed there are some more recent drivers for the NP8157/P6xxHS on the www.clevo.com.tw Services/Download area. Most are labeled for Windows 10 Redstone 2, but not all. Does anyone know if there is any advantage in downloading and installing the latest drivers for any of the on board features?

Thanks to all for answering my NVidia question, BTW.

 

I would not worry too much about the other drivers unless you have issues.

 

Hi guys ; I'm currently looking at PCSpecialist, an EU reseller, and the prices seem too good to be true.

I live in france and I'm used to brands taking a marge amount of money when reselling products ; and PCS's prices are just slightly higher than what you get by converting the US prices to euros and applying VAT (thus without shipping and bank currency change fees). This makes them 200-250€ cheaper than my local french reseller, and I found them to sell clevo laptops rather cheap already compared to say MSI ones.

Is this reseller to be trusted or is there some shady stuff going on that would explain the really really low prices ? So far the only thing that seemed strange is that they do not offer dual channel RAM.

When looking at reviews, it seems that all the most negative ones are at least from 5 years ago ; most of what I could find was positive, and in general there is not that much feedback about them.

 

PCS are a good reseller with a solid backup service. I am in the UK and bought my i7 7700/ GTX 1070 from them recently. They have a large UK operation fulfilling large volumes of orders and there is a video on their site of their factory. I had a problem with the stock thermal paste on my off the shelf factory built machine, they repasted it and returned the laptop within less than a week.

I suspect the reason for the price seeming lower is the exchange rate for pound to euro which is very much in favour of euro at present.

If you are concerned at all, try posting on their forums, they have a Sales Advice forum that is very busy and I'm sure you will get an answer to any queries you have.

My take is they are an honest and hard working reseller. Not perfect but good value.

 

Thanks for the reply.
I'm not on the right topic for that I guess, I was looking at their P950HR (still brand new, not a lot of them in europe). The main negative feedback was most of the time troubles with defective units that needed to be returned : processes that take really long, pieces that are not correctly fixed, etc...
So I guess as long as tour laptop works there is nothing to fear.

 

Pretty much a fan of not fixing if it aint broke. Sometimes drivers are the culprit.

Having said that if a particular update actually helps performance and gets kudos from many users, go for it.

 

Am still waiting for the fan curve that reaches 100%, hopefully it comes before Half Life 3.

Am not a fan of manual toggling of FN + 1

 

That cracked me up. Fan curve is definitely non existent.

Also Age of empires beat half life in bringing a sought after sequel. The grave gets dug deeper

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Hi folks,

is there a download available for the original Clevo System BIOS 1.05.04 or 1.05.05?

 

Anyone on here planning to wait for/upgrade when 8 gen CPUs are available? I'm on the fence, since perf improvement is likely negligible in HK/HQ i7s

 

Huh? Pretty sure there is no such thing coming. What is your source?

 

Apologies, I forgot they are branding them as 8-series. I meant 8th gen

 

Ah yes, then I agree, there is little to be excited about the HQ/HK i8 CPUs

 

CPU improvements, especially for gaming, have not been all that exciting over recent years.

 

Question: I own the p650hp6-g, love the laptop but absolutely hate the 200w power brick. I use this laptop to travel alot and this power brick is nearly a kg.

Was wondering - if I completely disable the 1060 in device management - would I be able to use a smaller 120w charger? (i have one laying around from my old Clevo W370ST) I know the 1060 uses 120W on full load.

Basically I don't wanna use the dGPU (only using the HD 630 iGPU) while on the road, only enabling it when gaming at home (where I would use the large 200W brick). Would this be possible/safe?

Hoping to hear from you guys.

Agil1ty

 

How you gonna charge the battery?

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If the system is using 80W ish that would leave room for the battery to charge.

 

You can consider buying the P950HP's 150 W adaptor, it's lighter than the 120 W one even, and you don't run the risk of overloading the power adaptor if you ramp up settings.

 

I decided to try it, I disabled the GTX 1060 in device manager and NvOptimusTestViewer64 shows that the Nvidia GPU is completely OFF. I'm now using BatteryMon to check discharge rate, and its on 45000mW while on battery. While charging with the 120W charger, its says 45000Mw charge rate. So it just charges, the brick doesn't get hot. However I wouldn't advise to try this with the NVIDIA GPU on.

For now this is perfect for me. The laptop doesn't seem to charge any slower.

 

You can also buy the Razer Blade 165w adaptor. I think it's compatible across the Clevo P series.

 

You can select igp only in the gpu drivers too.

 

I wonder how the power circuitry is like in this laptop?

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Doesn't the BIOS have a GPU switch on a P650?
Also, I thought it's either MSHybrid or dGPU only, no complete dGPU shut off

 

In hybrid mode go into the nvidia 3d settings and choose IGP only and the GPU should not wake up for any program. Only if you plug in an external monitor.

 

So I've just recieved my P650hp6-g, and wanted to install my components, but what are these cables which are tied together?

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Also I got 2 which I think are thermal pads, but where do I put them?

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https://prnt.sc/gfitga

Also in which spot do I put my M.2 ? (Crucial MX300 M.2)

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http://prntscr.com/gfiwi1 - 4G module if you install one in the second M.2 slot!

Also I got 2 which I think are thermal pads, but where do I put them?

https://prnt.sc/gfitcy

https://prnt.sc/gfitga - on the M.2 drives, but so they are inbetween the M.2 drive and the bottom panel (d-cover)

Also in which spot do I put my M.2 ? (Crucial MX300 M.2)

http://prntscr.com/gfixis - As you have marked them - 1/ is the SATA slot (which can also run a 3G/4G module as above comment) and 2/ is the PCIe x4/SATA slot. Technically, your slot 2/ is usually refered to as the primary slot, but your MX300 will run the same in either.

 

Aha okay, thanks for the answers, but where should I stick the 4G module cables?

 

Round the display if you can route them there, otherwise around the body.

 

Can I leave them there aswell, w/o problems?

 

Sorry I thought you had bought them and intended to put them in, as they are already there, notice the tape holding them down? It's fine to leave them.

 

Okay, thanks for the helping me out

 

Enjoy the machine

 

when will there be an update on the bios?

 

Hopefully soon but the current bios 1.5.4 works pretty well except for the messed up fan curve. Are you experiencing any problems with the current bios?



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I want to chime back in for a two week update, just on the random chance this post helps someone decide to purchase a Sager/Clevo based machine, or not.

First, know that I have been in the computer industry since 1979. For most of those years I was responsible for testing and recommending hardware for use in my company, so I am well acquainted with all the major and minor brands that have come and gone over the years. Also, this is not my first Sager notebook purchase (I have been around Sager since 2002).

So, on to my quick, two week update.

I'll put the TL;DR summary up front. Buy this machine, don't walk, run to your favorite Sager/Clevo reseller and just do it.

If you are coming from one of the "Big" laptop vendors, HP in my case, the current designs of the Sager/Clevo should be immediately familiar if you have been doing any test driving at Best Buy, Fry's, etc. (I am US based). This NP8157 looks like, and is like the current HP Omen gaming lineup of laptops in its display size range, except a bit less expensive, and less confusing to purchase, IMHO. Since my last two laptops have come from HP, I think I can say I enjoyed purchasing from my reseller, Xotic, in my case, than from HP again. Even though both Xotic and HP offer a customized configuration purchasing experience, HP can be downright confusing for the lay person, and some experts just because they offer so many model numbers of the same chassis. Xotic also gave me better, and more frequent status updates after the purchasing experience.

The current chassis of this NP8157 has much going for it, hardware wise when compared to my old HP DV7. This NP8157 is lighter and has a gorgeous screen, among other things. The NVidia 1070 is a joy to utilize. The RGB keyboard back lighting, which many see as a gimmick, allows you to find just the correct hue for tired eyes like mine. The keyboard itself is pretty good, and has good key travel depth. The trackpad feels and tracks much better than those on my old HPs, plus the Windows enhanced gestures work well. My only real hardware gripe relates to the fingerprint sensor. Even though it seems to work well, the surrounding lip around the sensor is sharp, and misplace IMHO. I am used to the sensor type and placement of the ones on recent Lenovo laptops, which win out in the fingerprint category, as far as I am concerned. I did not opt for the enhanced wireless ac module when ordering, so I was anxious to see how my wireless connection would be after arrival. I needn't have been concerned. The stock wireless card gives me nearly double the speed as the ac on my old HP.

As an aside, I must interject that I was a little bit apprehensive about having Windows 10 as my only supported OS option, but I shouldn't have worried. Even though I have been using Windows 10 for as long as it has been available because of my recently retired from job, I had had nothing but trouble when trying to install and configure Windows 10 on my home machines. Neither of my two HP older DV7 laptops were stable under 10, so I had to reimage them back to their Windows 7 backups.

I have installed all my daily driver apps on the NP8157 and have had no issues to speak of. I did have to set the properties of a small minority of utilities to compatibility mode and run as administrator, but after that, I was able to move forward.

I am not a big gamer, but I am able to take advantage of the NVidia 1070 in my video encoding work. I know many here have expressed concerns over high temperatures when this platform is pushed, but I am happy to say the temperatures I am seeing are less than my old DV7 had when under the same workload. I routinely push all cores to 100% for at least a couple of hours at a time doing video work and overheating has not been an issue. Excessive heat from the keyboard areas have also not been a problem.

As with others here, if any prospective owner has any questions I can address, just let me know. I am known for speaking my mind and not pulling punches if required. I will revisit my experience with my new NP8157 going forward. I am anxious to know if the build quality holds up over time.

Thanks again for all here who helped me make my purchasing decision. Happy computing!

 

Actually I still have a few questions..


Do I have to put the ram in 1&2 or 3&4? or like 1&3 and 2&4

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& the thermal pads like this?

https://prnt.sc/gfw0px

 

Yes to thermal pads, ram modules placed side by side for dual channel yes.

 

So just put them on the bottom of the PC instead of under the keyboard?

 

Yes. You would only have to go under the keyboard if you decide to add more at a later time.

 

Hey guys, I'm new here, just had a question for owners of the P650HP6-G clevo laptop or anything similar. I need to dual boot Ubuntu and Windows on it, but I don't know how well that'll work, so I'd rather hear it from someone that actually owns it before buying it and finding out that it has loads of unsolvable issues. (Yes I searched in google and this thread for anwsers but couldn't find any)

 

For those with a 7820HK, what is the highest sustained speed that you're obtaining with, for example, the prime95 torture test? Once my machine is hit with a constant, full-load set of tasks it drops from a 4.1-4.2 GHz overclock to 3.6 GHz, with "EDP Other" for the cores and ring. Just wondering whether this is ordinary behavior.

This is with the original 1.05.01 BIOS, in case that matters. At some point I suppose I should harass Donald about an update, but I've been waiting for Prema to become available.

 

I believe people tend to run it in dedicated mode for the sake of Linux but otherwise it works fine in legacy boot mode.

 

The P650HS has a maximum power limit of 56W, if the CPU tries to draw more power it'll throttle, mine hovers on 3.8 - 3.9 under full load.

 

What about UEFI? Doesn't that work?

 

Thanks. I get that, and that the EDP Other generally indicates that you've hit the current draw limit for the CPU. But Throttlestop reports that the package power is only 45-50W, and tweaking voltages, PP0 current and voltage, PP long and PP short, etc. doesn't seem to produce any sort of effect positive or negative. Unlike desktop CPUs, I haven't been able to get a sense of what is realistically achievable, especially since what I have found are people talking about 4.2-4.3 GHz peak speeds with small workloads, which really isn't something that I'm concerned about.

 

With secure boot disabled I think it will, I do have to admit I am not really a Linux person, this is going off what I have had reported to me.