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Try having any 3d load on so the GPU wakes up. Looks like it is optimus sleep.

 

In reference to the the GPU overclock tool not giving any readings
I have the same exact problem and it is very annoying I have not been able to fix it.
What I do know is it happened after doing updates with the Obsidian tool. Not saying the tool caused it since it happened on another unit I had where I updated the drivers and powerbios manually.
I have a PowerSpec 1510 by the way same MB, apps etc.
So if anyone comes up with anything that would be great, maybe I will send Clevo an email.
I know there are other tools to monitor but as you said it is just plain irritating!!

 

If you put the test load on in GPU-Z does the Clevo app show values?

 

I does nothing I have had it open while on dual screen and under test load gives no readings whatsoever.
When I first got the unit and ran it I would get readings but now it behaves very oddly sometimes the icon does not even show up

 

Hey guys,

I am seeing 100C on my CPU and 82C on my GPU after just 10 minutes into Need for Speed Payback. I use a Sager NP8156 - i7 7700HQ and GTX 1060 6GB. I also got it with IC Diamond from XoticPC just 10 months ago. Anybody know what could be the cause of this issue and how to fix it? Could it be bad thermal paste? Any help is appreciated! Hoping my beast is okay

EDIT: Ambient Temperature of around 27C

Thanks in advance,
Harid.

 

Could be the heat sink on the cpu and gpu is not seated proper worth a check to see if it is tightened down proper. On mine a couple of the screws were loose but it did not really make all that much difference as far as cpu goes.
For now till I decide to repaste I disabled turbo boost there is a few ways to do that but only one that really works and is persistent on reboots and that is to use Intel's extreme tweak utility. For most of the stuff I do still has plenty of power and have had no problems.
As for the gpu it is within limits since it's thermal max is 90c but you may want to set the fan to max when you use.
Also I noted the 1070 in my automatically over clocks it's self afaik there is no way to disable that.
So anyway the issue is pretty common I don't think the heat sinks used are good enough on a lot of systems when turbo kicks in. If you are in a warm environment would only get worse

 

Thanks for quick the reply!
These temps show up when fans are running at max. I will check the heatsink seating ASAP and will probably go for a repaste soon.
Clevo laptops have 3 fans while other manufacturers have only 2 in most of their models isn't that supposed to keep us cooler? For the first 7-8 months it ran in low 80s under load but for the past 2 months I'm beginning to see a gradual rise. Also my place is a little bit dusty and I did blow through the vents and manage to get some pocket lint off the vents is that enough to clear up the vents or should I take the heatsink off then clean it up? The CPU vent doesn't seem to vent out as much air as the GPU vents.

Cheers,
Harid.

 

Did you open the laptop and do anything with the heat sink in the past 2 months?
If there is a gradual rise, it might be because of dust in the fan, or air bubbles (if you have loosened the heat sink but not reapplied thermal past).
But even your earlier temps seem high as compared to what people here have reported. Even my temps are pretty high. Don't know what to do. But you can at least get them back to the previous levels I think. (I am not an expert)

 

It sounds like dust build up on the fan blades and heat sink fins since he has been gradually getting worse. I would open it up and give it a good clean out, really the only way.
Re-paste sounds like a good idea I have some of the ARCTIC ORACO-MX40001-BL MX-4 it is supposed to be better than Arctic silver or liquid metal, going to try on a desktop build I have going.
Also there are thermal pads for the voltage regulators to consider you should be able to see the edges to see how thick they are.
I also have a a four fan cooler coming hoping that helps as well.

 

I opened the laptop only to blow the dust away, I did not touch the heatsink screws anytime after I bought it. My idle temps are about 45C under ambient temperature of 28C which has remained same over the months, it is only the load temps that are getting high. My early temps used to range from high 70s to the low 80s which is pretty good I guess...

Does IC Diamond wear out sooner or something like that? Because I dont seem to have any dust in my CPU/GPU fans now.

 

Just opened it up and cleaned the fans, there was very little dust as i had cleaned out most of it a month ago. Hoping a repaste would solve the problem, fingers crossed.

 

That stuff is supposed to fairly permanent once it is cured. I know the Arctic silver is and the new stuff from them which is carbon based is as well, they guarantee 8 years anyway.
When you remove the sinks check and see how flat the surfaces are they may need to be lapped flat with a good quality stone.
If the surface of the sink is uneven it will cause poor cooling. Better heat sinks are milled the cheapo ones are pressed, pretty easy to tell them apart.
So really you are supposed to use very little paste just enough so it fills the micro pores if you use to much just ends up squeezed out onto the cpu socket and board which is not going to help any

Edit: the heat spreader if it has one should also be checked
under volting might be a good idea as well

 

Just don't lap too much as it will reduce mounting pressure.

 

Yes that is a good point.
There is mixed feelings on the matter and of much of a difference it makes.
I think it is worth checking since I have seen some really out of wack surfaces.

Probably the best way to reduce CPU temps and not loose any performance is by under volting with a program like Intel extreme tweak for the 7700HQ -.110 volts seems to be a good number

 

I have heard undervolting is completely safe and you don'y lose ANY performance. Is that true? If yes, How much of a temperature drop does it yield?

 

I personally have had no problems and have heard of no one else having any issues.
Just do a websearch on undervolting the 7700HQ (if that is what you have) there are a few on youtubeun
As far as temp drops I would say it depends on other variables specific to your system but over all I would say it will be enough to make it worthwhile.
Previously I had disabled turbo boost but this I would say is the better option.
And remember whatever you do is at your own risk but using the Intel Extreme Tweak Utility is probably your safest bet

Another thing that helps performance and temps is enabling "speed shift" with throttlestop why speed shift is not enabled by default on Clevo boards is a mystery. It's a great new feature of Intel processors

 

I am going to enable speed shift ASAP as I see it gives a significant performance advantage and try out undervolting with Intel XTU today and report back results.

The temps maybe high because I am running NFS Payback on very high 1080p around 110fps on a G-SYNC 120Hz display, maybe if i capped it at 60 it would give better temps. I had no problems running NFS The Run at 120fps probably because it was an older title.

Thanks a lot for the help! I will share my results shortly/

 

@cannonfodder Thanks a ton man! Just undervolted by -0.110v and my temps barely touch 80C under load! Puzzled why Intel doesn't make that the stock voltage as it makes a huge difference on the temps and I don't see any kind of performance drop at all. Thinking about another -0.010v undervolt, Do you think -0.120v would be stable?

Thanks again,
Harid.

 

Glad to hear it's working for you!
Unfortunately I had to lower mine to -.100v was running AC Sydicate and crashed. I had run a stress test as well but I guess it was not enough when turbo boost kicked in. Goes to show not all systems are the same.
Anyway temps and performance are just fine at the new voltage maybe soon will run "Prime95" and really torture it to see if it holds up.
I am sure Intel runs all sorts of test for stability and since processors and the systems they are in can vary the voltages they set are the most stable average.
Have to remember also the 7700HQ is a full feature CPU that is used in desktops where power and heat are less of a problem

 

I need to try running something more demanding to confirm that my system is stable at -0.120v. So far so good. Hopefully continues this way.

 

Prime95 is the staple torture test I just got finished testing my system and it's all good.
Eventually I will redo the thermal compound with the new Arctic carbon compound since I don't trust or know the source of what they use, also one of the screws holding down the CPU sink was not fully tightened so I basically have little confidence it was done correctly

 

Will run prime 95 soon, How long am I supposed to run it and at what settings? I will be repasting as soon as I hit the 1 year mark, 2 more months to go. Will probably do thermal Grizzly kryonaut.

 

Seems like every chip has different undervolt capabilities. I undervolted at -0.150V, however I noticed freezing once the laptop was on idle. Right now I am sitting stable at -0.130V, had no crash or freeze either on full load or idle. So I guess you could go even further.

 

So I assume you are waiting for your warranty to be up.
I checked the wording on the one year warranty my unit has it's pretty simple if unit becomes defective bring it back.
Running to the point the CPU throttles it's self constantly could be considered defective there are no specifics but if one were to say it is crashing because of it I would think so since the thing should be designed to keep it's self cool even at extremes.

The other part is "damage resulting from accident or misuse" is not covered, pretty straight forward.

So re-pasting is kind of a gray area and how are they going to be able to tell unless you use something like liquid metal which I am pretty sure none but the aftermarket sector use.
I have also heard the stuff is corrosive especially with aluminum parts, it is also electrically conductive so if it seeps out who knows.

So I may or may not wait to redo right now the temps are within acceptable limits and it is not hitting "PROCHOT" anymore so all is good.

As far as Prime95 the defaults are good just let it rip and watch the temps. I have heard some set it to run all night don't think I will go that nuts about it : )

 

Hello all, I recently purchased a P650HP6-G (gtx 1060, 120Hz GSYNC) from Prostar. The CPU fan is very reasonable in terms of tonal impact but the GPU fan behaves like Jekyll and Hyde (is either quiet or suddenly ramps up and stays loud during light usage). I have tried different versions of Hotkey (Command Center), with XTU, without XTU, a fresh install of Windows, NVRAM reset, custom fan profile in Command Center, nothing works.

The room temp is around 74F (~23c) so it is not really hot or cold. The load temps are good, GPU never goes above 80c and it hovers around 50c at idle; the problem is that the EC is programmed to turn on/off the fans around 50c and this cycle of OFF-HIGH-MED-OFF is incredibly annoying.

Does anyone have a solution to this? Would a BIOS and EC update fix this? Thanks!

 

Okay will do the prime95 with the defaults, Thanks!

 

Went to -0.125V now and undervolted -0.015v on the iGPU. Does undervolting the iGPU give better temps?

 

I don't think undervolting the iGPU will do anything beneficial unless you have MSHybrid on.

Do your gpu fans ramp up frequently during normal use under Discrete mode?

 

With evga control panel you can set curve points for the fan which can be very useful.
But it is unusual that your gpu is kicking in even on discrete the fans on mine don't kick in around 60c well somewhere around there I never hear them unless in game.
You try running at 60hz you sure you don't have a coin miner working in the background, just a thought

 

Are you actually able to modify the EC to control the fans using EVGA? Yeah my fans kick in on high around 50c, they still spin around 45c. Watching YouTube means that the fans are droning away in the background. This issue lies in only the GPU fans, the CPU fan is very quiet for about 90% of the time, there is the occasional spin-up with temps in the mid 40s but it's not nearly as intrusive as the GPU.

I'd like to run at 120Hz, I paid extra for the panel. Fans shouldn't have an issue with that.

Nope, no coin miner Fresh install of win10 and nothing to suggest unusual resource usage.

 

Yes you can use evga panel for a bunch of settings the fan is one thing I noted when I tried it after the clevo gpu oc tool stopped working for me.
If it weren't for the fact I need that panel for the keyboard lights I would delete the clevo powerbios control panel, hoping I can find an option.
You could also try the MSI control panel.
Both those interfaces should work with pretty much any nvidia chip, but certain functions will be specific to the brand

 

I tried it, it did not detect any fans.

 

It's in the upper left you have to uncheck auto. It is possible your unit is defective

 

Could you please include a screenshot? I looked everywhere on the messy GUI, the place that is supposed to house the button for fan control is missing and RPM readings are missing as well.

 

You have to get Evga Precision X 16 the version I used 5.3.11, think I got it from Guru3d. Don't get the new version from evga sight. Yes the interface can take a bit of getting used.
The orange triangles are how you navigate the setting so click the right one couple times then click "Fan" not profile as they are separate, then click the empty box "enable automatic fan control" and a fan curve box will pop up.
To go back there is a U shaped reverse arrow.
You can always click default to set things back the way they were.
Remember the saying use at your own risk. I suggest never attempting to overclock anything especially on a laptop if you don't understand what you are doing and since you will see it already does turbo on it's own, at least the 1070 in mine does.
Also I don't know if this will actually help you since I just use it to monitor what is going on and don't actually use that feature myself

 

On normal use no they don't but while gaming I use the max fan speed and it hits 80C, so I used msi afterburner to give that a slight undervolt too and now everything is stable, no performance drop and good temps .

 

Also the diversity in temps we get in our laptops is quite interesting. I have a XMG and after undervolting both GPU and CPU, I am getting 70 degrees on cpu and 60 on gpu on aida64 stress test. If I ramp up the fans to 100%, I get 3 more degrees down on both. So if you are getting too high temps, then you should try repasting it or maybe even open an RMA ticket. I must admit that im pretty impressed by this beast and its cooling, its WAY better than on the asus gl502vm that I returned.

 

Which XMG do you have?

 

XMG P507 from mysn.de. I am not saying its perfect, but it fits my needs. But the prices are very good, support also and they are quite fast (got it within a week after payment). I recommend them if you are interested.

 

You will see differences with silicon quality and heatsink variations.

 

Does anyone know how do I install intel hd driver on ubuntu (P650HP6)? Intel graphics are not detected anywhere. Maybe it has to do something with that MUX switch in bios? It is set to Mshybrid, so it should work.

 

I've not had good experience with Optimus graphics switching in Linus distros, let alone windows

I did hear somewhere that Ubuntu defaults to the NVIDIA gpu if possible.

You could always set it to discrete at the expense of battery life.

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Thanks for your reply,
The problem is that I want just the Intel HD running with either Nvidia being disabled or just not being used at all. I need Ubuntu for work and need to have good battery life, thats why I need the integrated gpu to be used. With dgpu I barely get 2 hours.

 

In MS hybrid mode it will behave like any optimus machine so if there are workarounds for those it would apply.

 

My gtx 1060 in my Sager NP8156 refuses to throttle at 83C and hits temperatures like 87C - 89C while playing fortnite on epic settings. This used to not happen before and I used to get temps only in the 75-80C range. I used Nvidia Inspector and the temperature limit is at 96C and I cannot bring it down and apply settings it always resets. Help Please.
Thanks in advance,
Harid.

 

Have you re-installed the GPU drivers?

 

There was an update yesterday night and I installed the update (It did not solve the problem). Should I try a full clean reinstall?

 

I tried a complete clean clean install of both the GeForce experience and the drivers but still no luck. I have attatched screen shots of my temps and gpu clock graph after running fortnite in the background for about 20 minutes.. The GPU still does not throttle at 83C. The ambient temperature is about 30C.

 

Try another program like "Msi Afterburner with Riva Tuner" it is better with a lot more options for monitoring temps and clocks in game not to mention tweaks and fan curve settings. You will have to check some options for them to be available.

Since you say it has gotten worse over time have you checked your fans and heat sink they are clean, may just be having trouble keeping temps.
Maybe you will have to undervolt the gpu/cpu a bit

 

My fans and heat sink are very clean I took it apart and cleaned it completely just a month ago. I have a -130mV undervolt on my cpu. I'm suspecting the Thermal grease. Maybe too little application or something of that sort. My CPU is fine after the undervolt. I tried undervolting GPU with msi afterburner a few days back and it didn't have any effect whatsoever on the temps. (I checked the unlock voltage control option). Can a repaste help this problem?