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Might be time to try a re-install of windows.

 

So all of a sudden my CPU decided to idle at 70c while my GPU is at 45c. What the hell? I changed the thermal paste on it only a few months ago and it was doing fine.

 

Have you checked the nvidia activity monitor to see if it's in use and made sure idle clocks are working?

 

Yeah I notice my CPU clock speed is going crazy while idle, why does it need to be at 1000MHz at only 3% load?

 

1GHz is a very low speed for these chips. 800Mhz and you get to the base voltage of the silicon (any lower and the chip would cease to function at all) so not much point in slowing it down.

 

There were some processes like creative cloud I had to close up that solved my issue.

 

Nasty for a background task like that to trigger that much usage.

 

Hi, I'm just wondering, what sorts of GPU temps are you guys getting on your laptops?

I've got a Clevo p650hs with an Intel 7700hq and a gtx 1070. MSI Afterburner has been showing GPU temps of 85-90 degrees in many games including Dark Souls 3, Assassins Creed Odyssey, Resident Evil 2, Doom, and a few others. These are generally set at high to max settings, capped to 60fps, at 1080p. Interestingly for Dark Souls 3, even at low settings at 1080p, I'm still getting temps of 90 degrees. Even for older games like Dota, I'll be getting 90 degrees if I run at 2880*1620 (60-70 degrees at 1080p).

The idle temps tend to be 40-50 degrees. And if I cap the FPS to 30 or 45 I can often get temps of 60-80 degrees.

I'm just wondering, is this normal for other owners of this laptop?

 

That sounds more or less on point with this series. Given the design there isn't a ton you can do to mitigate thermals, but a good paste and some breathing room can go a long way.

 

NP8157, P650HS-G, average build with good cooling should give you exactly 10 degrees less than what you have posted.
All games at high, max gpu 80C cpu 82C
Only game for me that reaches 90C is BF1 weirdly.

Based on the temps you have posted:
- open laptop and clean all the dust from the vents and fans
- if temps still high repaste
That should bring down your temps. Good luck.

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For me on BFV i get 82c cpu and 70c on gpu with uv 0.130 cpu and vga on 0.95

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Cool those are good temps. BF1- I feel isnt optimized so I am getting high temps only in that game. How is BFV. Havent played it yet. Saw it got lot of flak before release.

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Its good, i have it on High with an external freesync/gsync and getting min 60fps to 110fps max

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You could argue bf1 is well optimised as its using all the system resources.

 

Now im getting 75c cpu and 68 gpu (i recommend the laptop vacum cooler)

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True. Its made to use all the cores and stuff. But I think I would prefer something thats not too heavy on resources I guess. Arma3 at high does not run heavy on my system at all and still looks more realistic along with physics. #Justmypref

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Nice. Do you think vacuum coolers affect the fans by putting more force than necessary in time. Curious.

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I dont think so, becouse it will be all close up (sealed) to affect the fan (at the beginning i thought so) but is just taking air our from the chassis.

Also i have it for like a year and something and the fans are ok

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It does mess with the pressure but I would not worry too much.

 

any recent updates for
P65xHP6(-G)

 

Not really, it's a retired model, what specifically are you looking for?

 

Hey y'all, can someone please tell me how thick the stock thermal pads are? Last time I repasted the system, I reused the stock ones, but this time around I want to swap 'em out for something like the Phobya or Thermal Grizzly pads?

 

Unless you intend to rejig the heights then don't bother. The height and fit is way more important than the material.

 

Normally, I'd agree with this sentiment, but last time around they were already starting to get brittle barely a couple of months in the laptop's life, so I'm going in with the assumption that they're goners and I want to have spares ready to go. On the bright side, I was actively considering of actually milling my own heatsink assembly using the original one for a template/starting point, but the wife talked me down from that particular ledge (for now) XD

 

I do not know the thickness. But I do know that thickness varies based on location of the pads. Also type of pad may vary. If pad thickness do not match overheating will occur.

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That's a given, I was checking to see if it's one or more of the standard sizes, or it needs something a bit less common (ie 0.7mm) or worse - massive (2+mm) like some of my old HP gear. After googling around, it seems that most people are using 1mm/1.5mm pads (the latter only used on a couple of spots), though some people got lucky in the heatsink bingo and got by with 0.5 and 0.7

 

Yeah those values seem common. I have read few posts where users found out that one of the memory chips (dont rem exactly) required .3mm too.

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With mine I got a sheet of 0.5mm and 1mm. Then I started experimenting on each set of parts what pad/combination gave the best fit.

 

Hey everyone I just bought a used NP8157 and I had a few questions if anyone happens to have answers.

1. The fan control via the control center doesn't work very well and runs the fans very loud even at idle. Is there a different piece of software I could use to control the fans?

2. The 120hz TN panel looks really good but unfortunately there is a large horizontal scratch along the whole length of screen, the whole scratch isn't visible but there is about a half inch that is visible at all times no matter what. According to HWINFO the panel model is AUO b156htn05.2. It looks like there are panels online I could purchase myself to replace but I havn't found a video or any documentation showing how to open the chassis and replace the screen. Does anyone happen to have a link handy with these details?

Thanks!

 

1. Have you checked your nvidia GPU is asleep during idle?

2. Remove the front bezel using a plastic tool/fingers to unclip it. Once you are in it's usually easy to figure out (hinge, screws on side of retention bracket, carefully pull out panel aware connector behind it)

 

Regarding Nr.1 - you may also want to give a thorough once over with compressed air on all vents as well (preferably using an actual compressor and not the canned "air") to blow out the crud outta the radiators. As for fan control, you may want to give the paid Obsidian alternative a spin.
By the way, as that's a second-hand device, you may also be facing a bad paste job, so you may want to consider that as well (if all other remedial options fail)

By the way, @Sager lads - repasting and repadding the HS-G did wonders - currently it's down to 71*C CPU/80*C GPU (with a mild undervolt on the CPU side) without a thermal throttle in sight and I'm starting to think that one of the original pads around the GPU was a bit too big a judging by the uneven residue from the previous pastings

 

Thanks everyone for the comments. I ordered a new panel.

What size thermal pads did you use?

 

Personally, I used 1mm and 1.5mm pads to replace the stock ones (basically everything but one spot was 1mm), but the real difference I in my case was that the newer Thermal Grizzly ones conformed better to the assorted memory and VRM chips and a better GPU to heatsink contact.
Edit: Be warned that the size varies between units, so it may be a good idea to either prep for 0.5 to 1.5mm pads, or to just repaste it first and measure the pads used for future reference

 

Sounds good, thanks for the info everyone.

 

0.5mm closer to the core is usually 12-15c worth of temperature swing.

 

Took me about 25 minutes to pull the heatsink off the repaste the CPU and GPU with some MX4 I had laying around, saw about a 7C drop overall.

The panel literally took me 5 minutes to replace, it was super easy to do. Unfortunately the place I ordered it from didn't send me an actual AUO panel, instead I received an innolux and gysnc won't work now, possible because it isn't on the bios whitelist? Anything I can do to try and get gsync to work on this panel? 120 hz works just fine but I really want gsycn.

Thanks for the help everyone!

 

No, nothing that can be done. The page likely listed a compatible replacement rather than exact panel.

 

I figured as much. I’ll return the panel and keep searching for an actual AUO panel.

Thanks.

 

If unsure message the seller first.

 

If you find one, I would love to know where it came from. I am interested in upgrading mine as well

 

I'm at my wits end here. I ordered an actual AUO panel with the same model number as the original that came with the laptop, B156HTN05.2, fricking thing cost me $170 shipped from China. GSYNC still isn't available and brightness controls don't work now with the new panel. When I put the old panel back in everything works fine. I'm at a loss as what to do now and am upset at the seller for sending me a laptop with screen damage and not stating that information prior to the sale.

 

G-sync will only work with panels that were shipping and validated at the time with that model. Sometimes bios updates can help if it was included later. Same with brightness due to the different control schemes out there.

 

Shouldn't the a panel with the same model number still work? I appreciate your help and didn't mean to come off as a jerk to anyone in this thread for helping, I know it not your folks fault.

 

Check the two stickers on the back, was the one you got from a different run? Did you take pictures?

You could also check the label and circuitry are the same so it's more likely genuine.

 

The panels were manufactured about 4 weeks apart based on the stickers on the back. Windows and HWINFO correctly identify them both as AUO panels with the same model number. Looking closer at HWINFO though the original panel was an AUO52ED and the replacement panel was AUO51ED, I'm guessing that is where the issue lies. Anyway I'll return this panel again and look for another I guess, thanks for the help.

 

Yes that would do it

 

Is there any difference between P650HP6-G and P650HP6? I want to buy a replacement screen so wanted to know I should buy for which model.

 

The -G is the model that shipped with internal G-sync.

 

Thank you! Btw, any idea about www.laptopscreen.com and www.laptop-lcd-screen.co.uk for screen replacement buys.

 

No, I've not had to buy a panel for myself in some time.