*** Official Clevo P65xRS(-G), P65xRP6(-G) / Sager NP8153(-S), NP8152(-S) Owner's Lounge ***

P651HS-G review is out over at notebookcheck
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Schenker-XMG-P507-Clevo-P651HS-G-Notebook-Review.193074.0.html

The cpu temps are unusually toasty!

 

Thanks, I think i will have to go with Eurocom F5.

My P650se with I7 4720hq gets to 85c with undervolt and underclock (3.2)

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Something just feels odd with that review...P651RP6-g with i7 6700 hq didn't get so hot..similar processor, same cooling system..
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Schenker-XMG-P507-Clevo-P651RP6-G-Notebook-Review.172321.0.html

 

I probably miss something but what is the difference between P650HP6-G and P650HS-G?

 

Same as before..P650HP6 has GTX1060 and P650HS has GTX1070

 

Funny. It`s completely the other way round for me. As long as I am not on the move I only use "discret" mode G-Sync works perfectly.

- G-Sync Application Controlled in the NV Control Panel
- G-Sync enabled in Game.
- Frames capped at 57 FPS with Afterburner/RTSS
-> Absolutely smooth without any tearing and VSync latency

My only game that occasionally shows stuttering due to inconsistent frametimes is The Wither 3.
In this case I have to live with pure VSync and the latency caused by it.

Best regards

phila

 

Same as me. The only difference is fps cap at 93.

Wysłane z Mi5

 

wow I hope it is just a bad paste job on the laptop otherwise that CPU will die early hahahah

 

In my experience, the stuttering in Witcher 3 is fixed by using borderless window mode (and changing the appropriate setting in NVCP so that GSync works when windowed)

 

You can also see the 120hz panel there getting a worse case of 12ms.

 

so ive got a weird issue. One day I was playing paragon and suddenly the game just went black and i got sent back to the login screen. upon logging in it was as if I had no gtx 1070 anymore. For instance the nvidia cp wasnt available, afterburner didnt show anything about my gpu, and trying to play games told me that my gpu didnt support dx11. Then I looked in geforce experience and saw that I had no driver installed all of a sudden, so I reinstall and reboot. Upon rebooting the screen would flash white several times and at log in screen before normalizing and it still told me I had no drivers installed. In device manager the igpu and 1070 both had exclamation points on them. I refreshed windows and it seemed to fix it but discrete wont enable despite it showing in the bios. Also the overclocking menu came back but upon trying to play a game again im back to square one again... is my gpu dead?

 

I think that's likely, I would contact LPC.

 

Yeah..Probably something is wrong somewhere. The cpu throttles to even slower clock than i7-6700hq..

 

I`ll give it a try!

Best regards

phila

 

Those of you who has updated to last BIOS With the supposed flexicharger-fix, is it now working? Asking cause vendor only sends out BIOSes to fix issues.

 

The Bios Update fixed the problem for me. It works perfectly.

Sometimes the Clevo Control Center does not display the battery level exactly and shows 100% full. But this problem is software side.

In this case it is sufficient to unplug and replug the powersource for a moment and the actual battery status is shown correctly again.

Best regards

phila

 

Thats good to hear! What is the number of the bios-version you got? Is fan-Control and other stuff okay?

 

My P651RS is on the following EC/BIOS

XMG EC 1.05.05TR
XMG BIOS 1.05.07a

Download: https://www.mysn.de/driver/XMG/XMG_P507_P707/BIOS/

Fan profiles are o.k. for me but could be less aggressive. Its very important to have a look that the GPU clocks down if not in use. Before making the right adjustments in the nVidia Control Panel my GPU would allways remain at 1443mhz, which permanently caused the fans be really loud. This fixed, the GPU idles at 40°C which leaves the fans mildly humming/almost silent.

Best regards

phila

 

My vendo only has EC 1.05.03 and BIOS 1.05.05 so I guess I have to wait

 

Just had a bad experience with the ASUS GL502 and am pretty set on getting a P650 after a lot of research. I was wondering if anyone with the 4K screen could give their thoughts on whether or not it was a worthwhile purchase, and in particular how it looks/feels with games running at lower resolutions. Also, how is battery life with this particular display when not gaming? Lastly, is this a laptop you could use in bed/on your lap when doing work? I program and work with spreadsheets, and would like to be able to use it off the table if possible, and the GL502 eventually got too hot for me to do that.

Thanks!

 

I got the 1080 screen which I think is perfect for gaming, but I'm more keen on frame rates than pixels. However, I had an Alienware 4K 980m prior to my clevo, and I always thought the downscale or whatever it's called looked fine. I always ran that machine at 1080 and only had a 4K screen because of the brightness issue with the panels from that generation.

I have only put my 650RS on a desk 2-3 times since I've owned it. I use it exclusively on my lap. While gaming, I use a Slate Go Mini lapdesk; it works great, and I feel no heat. While using for productivity, just make sure that you are using MSHybrid mode instead of Discrete to keep temps tolerable while on your lap.

For what it's worth, I looked at the GL502 when considering what to buy last fall, and I decided against it based on build quality and many poor reviews of the heat dissipation. I handled one at Best Buy, and the case quality along with the keyboard and trackpad really turned me off. I think you'll be happy with the Clevo.

 

May I know how is the average FPS for those who owned a P650RP6 in Dota 2 with max settings?

I am having trouble with the usage of my CPU & GPU. They are always underutilised, both stays around maximum usage of 40% and fps are around 60 - 70-ish (V-SYNC off)

Is there something bottlenecking my system?

i7-6700HQ
GTX1060 6GB
8GB 2133Mhz Ram (Single)
850EVO SSD
7200RPM HDD

 

To anyone having issues with games of any kind, you should totally do this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/4xu9vi/bad_fps_after_latest_win10_anniversary_update_got/

It looks like something was triggering my fans at max all the time and I was having weird fps drops in some games (with 40% gpu/cpu usage). After doing that my laptop works much better

 

Thanks for the reply. Do you feel like the stock 1080p has a reasonable response time for gaming? I currently have a BenQ Gsync that is very low latency, and I'm wondering then if the stock display feels slow in FPS or fighting games. The 120hz option is also appealing, but some people were saying the colors were bad, so now I'm kind of torn between getting all three options. The 120hz would probably be closest to what I use now for gaming, but it would be a downgrade in quality to what I'm used to on my other laptop.

Also thanks for the tip on the lap desk, I'll look into getting one of those.

 

I have the 4k screen and although it's pentile (you can notice it if you look really really close and work with text a lot - I'm a software developer) it's really really good from a normal viewing distance.

Running in 1080p isn't that blurry so I'd often run at 1080p if I want ultra detail. Although I prefer running at 4k (I've been spoiled).

I'm not sure why I get really bad battery life, but mine only lasts about an hour doing my work. Then again I'm usually always plugged in and only disconnect when I want to switch places so it's fine with me.

I use in bed/lap for work and it's not that hot. But I'm not playing games with that in my lap

 

Okay, so here I am, with my right-hand side USB 3.0 port (p650rs).
It doesn't work (at first I thought and mentioned my xbox one wireless adapter was causing the lag and bad functioning and that only restart helped.) Now it doesn't work and restart doesn't help anymore.
1) checked pins and connections, they are not loose
2) tried disabling and re-enabling in device manager
3) tried multiple shapes (fatness) of USBs on different devices
4) all USBs on the left work well
5) during boot and while in BIOS all other USBs power up (phone starts charging right after power on) but not USB on the right.

people suggest to do a reset with battery and power off by holding down power button for 30 seconds, to Discharge capacitors? How do I do that with non removable battery. Or should I try pop up the back and take out power plug and start from there. Or does anyone else has any suggestions?

 

Any way to fix the pulsating fans under load? That doesn't envolve pressing Fn+1

I formatted my system and switched it over to UEFI, I didn't realize this was possible to do while keeping my W10 OEM license but apparently it is, great!
System boots up noticeably faster, seems more stable and performance is more consistent. I have yet to game on it for a long time but will do this weekend. It's weird I didn't expect it to be so noticeable.

Anyone else running legacy bios?

 

Looking the reviews its normal but high, well i ordered ic7 to try to win some 2 or 5c less

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I ordered IC7 for my P650RP6, it's not worth it. Compared to stock it was almost the same. Max 79C gaming compared to 80C in stock, I did side by side comaprison with same model. I repasted with Kryonaut and guess what, max 8-10C difference!

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I have tried the solution on two Clevo laptops, doesn't seem to work for me. Both CPU and GPU usage is still around 40%.

Even games like Paladins with Fps limit set to 999. The usage is around 40% too.

Something is wrong

 

Take it the good way, hate u !!! They just send it and also in the way gelid extreme hahaba

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Have you tried the setting in Nvidia control panel, Manage 3D setting, select Dota 2 then at the "Power Management Mode" set to "Prefer Maximum Performance" and make sure in Control Centre select "Performance" Mode. hope it helps.

 

Thank you for your reply but I have done all of those, no luck either. I'm so lost now.

 

It's a known issue that the CPU severely throttles itself during high GPU loads on this model. I think most people are just waiting for Prema to release a bios mod to address it.

40% cpu usage isn't abnormal. Very rare are games able to utilize much more than that. Naturally, on most games the GPU will be unable to work at full power with the CPU being limited. For now, try undervolting your CPU and you should see some FPS gains.

 

Is it normal that the GPU usage is a bit all over the place when you play a graphically intensive game like BF1?
Mine was spiking a lot on the afterburner log. Games usually perform good but I regularly get some inconsistent frame rate and drops when it shouldn't.


Also, is CCC already good to use with Intel's XTU? I heard there were a few issues between these two

 

Without a visually graphed log of the CPU and GPU it is very difficult to say what is going on.

 

Are you plug in the power adapter? And tried G-sync off? It happen only in one game or all the games are same problem? Have you try update the latest bios? What's the temperature? Attach your screen shot, cpu-z, gpu-z,bios settings, nvidia and running mshybrid or discrete mode?

 

I'm cross-posting this from the P670 owners' thread since these machine use the same BIOS/EC to see if anyone might be able to replicate this. If so, perhaps we can get some traction with the powers that be in the hopes of there being a fix:

I'm wondering if there's a glitch in the latest XMG-released BIOS and/or EC for this machine. I just did a clean install of Windows. This is the original anniversary edition build (14393.0). Computer has not been connected to the Internet. The only software installed is the GeForce driver so I could get output to my external display. Using either Windows display settings or the NVIDIA driver, I set the system to output only to the external monitor; the laptop's built-in display is off. I put the system to sleep, then upon waking it up, the built-in screen will turn on in addition to the external one and either show nothing or revert the desktop setup to spanned as opposed to just showing on one. It will also switch the external monitor's refresh rate back to 60 Hz from 144.

This was not a problem prior to installing the XMG BIOS/EC, and this is clearly not a Windows issue since I was running the anniversary update just fine on an older Sager-provided BIOS/EC. I assume there's no way to downgrade either.

 

I will always plug in the power adapter while gaming. My laptop doesn't come with G-sync. I've tried a few games. Paladins, TERA and Dota 2 all average around 40% for GPU and CPU. I didn't update my BIOS before. Temperature is within 60 to 70C depending on the ambient temperature for both.

Anyway, I'm running in discrete mode.

CPU-Z
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1PgC36V1j5GQmJDR0p1V3lZYWs/view?usp=sharing

GPU-Z
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1PgC36V1j5GRTlDNFBCcmFWZ1E/view?usp=sharing

Nvidia Setting
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1PgC36V1j5Gb29nWlVQenNyb1U/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1PgC36V1j5GOFBiYkxuYlR2N2c/view?usp=sharing

What do I need to show for BIOS settings?

 

100% CPU usage is only reached if an application will utilize all 4 cores + SMT to the max. Most games are just not able to reach this. In fact most of the games I play do not do as well.

If you really want to see your CPU spike high the run "The Witcher 3" and move around Novigrad - especially running in circles here should gice you CPU usage up to 89%



You only mentiones online games. Hitching andstuttering and low FPS might relate to your Internet connection or the connection of the people you play with.

If you really want to see your CPU spike high the run the witcher 3 and moce around Novigrad - especially the high places.

Best regards

phila

 

Can this be used on the P650RS Model?

 

Yes, it can. However, I would advise against it for right now because of an issue I detailed in this post. I've sent a private message to XMG asking them to investigate/comment on it. Hopefully I will hear back from them in short order.

 

Guys take notebookchecks temperatures with a pinch of salt.. They run Prime 95 and Furmark together.. Its completely unrealistic..

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Actually RP6-g has an inferior cooling system and is 4 mm slimmer. My P651RS with 6700HQ got to 94C using same testprocedure.

 

dota 2 engine, at the monent, can't utilize cpu to the max.
Average fps will be 120 in even most powerful machine in universe. In fights it can dip to 90 fps

 

There is some ancient code in such games, much like WOW. They can't use modern hardware properly.

 

Got a weird one here with a client's P650RP6.

1. After about 1 minute after boot, regardless of OS (could be in BIOS, Linux live-USB or Windows) the fans go to 100%.
2. About a minute after that, the system receives a HARD shutdown signal. I can see the shutdown warning in a Linux Live disk, then basically a hard off 5-6 seconds later.
3. Nvidia GPU is absent and nothing but a black screen if I try and boot in Discrete mode.
4. After the fans are on 100% the Power light flashes Orange. I believe this is the temperature sensor warning.

My current best theory is the Nvidia GPU is toast and the temperature sensor has gone with it, triggering over-temp warnings. I've tried resetting CMOS as well (which saved me from black screens in Discrete mode)

Interestingly, the client also manage to get a virus on there shortly prior. I wonder if it was a GPU hogging virus (lots of bitcoin mining bugs get around) which may have killed the GPU.

EDIT: Also tried changing ram to a known working stick in case of weirdness there.

 

Thanks for the advise

 

I just find it odd since both reviews did run prime95 and furmark together with very different results. And Clevo is thought to have better cooling than Asus GL502. But here you'll see Asus GL502 out performs the clevo under the same stress test..It's just very strange for the i7 7700hq to hit 100 degC while other laptops didn't under the same stress test.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-Strix-GL502VM-DS74-Xotic-PC-Edition-Notebook-Review.192300.0.html

 

Just got sometimes today to do the benchmark testing on my laptop.

My P650RP6-G overclock result 75c Max for GPU with overclock fan profile.

attached here is the 3dmark and unigine benchmark score. Is the score ok?