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Hello!

Can someone tell me which BIOS/EC is the most recent for the P650RP6-G please? I contacted my reseller and they gave me this link. However, I found this one from XMG. My question is, which one should I flash?

Thanks!

EDIT: Forgot to mention.. My EC is 1.05.06 and my BIOS is 1.05.05.

 

the one from your reseller.

Cross flashing a diff. BIOS from another reseller/system builder may void your warranty.

 

My reseller doesn't have any "official" BIOS. That's why I asked. The link they gave me is not from them, its just a repository. I'm gonna ask them again. Thanks anyway.

 

Different vendors can have different logos which can obviously be odd when they get it back.

 

I have a similar Question like FredSRidcchardson:

Your App ist for the P650RS-G. My Clevo Barebone has P651RS on it. What is the difference exactly?!

Best regards

phila

 

Drivers are the same.
The diference on those two is just cosmetics.

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By the way John, is there a new "Obsidian" BIOS/EC coming to the RP6?

 

Just found your App and gave it a try. My Base was Windows 10 64Bit installed with latest drivers from my german reseller mysn.de on a P651HP6-G (KabyLake 7700HQ/1060GTX, AUO 120HZ TN) and was amazed to see your Tool found a lot of newer driver versions. That's really cool. I found a few problems I wanted to Share.

1. Audio finds a newer Version but it has the same revision number as the already installed version.

2. The Fingerprint showes a newer Version but there is no Update Button showing. So I could not install your version.

3. Next is that my Soundlaster Driver (v1.x) is not recognized. Your tool shows a newer version with number 6.x I had installed it. But it did not change even after reboot I have 1.x installed and the tool finds the newer version 6.x to be available.

4. My Clevo hotkey Software is not detected. But its already installed with the same version numbers. Even after a force installation with your tool it is not recognized again.

5. Last thing, for the Intel VGA there is a newer Version found but after downloading the driver i get an error: this computer does not have the minimum requirements for this software

Anyway great Work ! Please keep it up... Maybe you have any idea to help me with my little problems...

**edit**
screenshots uploaded

 

A lot of those bugs are fixed in Next update, but its such a big update that its taking way too much time.
Will try to release Tomorrow.
Get ready for a really cool new set of features.

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In fact, has any BIOS for the P650RP6 fixed the high CPU usage and ACPI.sys activity with an external monitor?

 

Hi guys, longtime lurker finally has a question that I couldn't find the answer to in previous posts. I have a i7-6700hq/GTX1070 p650rs-g without a gsync display. I bought the one with the non gsync full hd 60hz screen last year. I am now thinking of getting a new monitor to hook the P650 up to. Could I ask, if I purchase a gsync monitor, will my p650 be able to work with the monitor and allow me to utilize gsync for games? I'm asking because my retailer doesn't seem to be sure. Thanks in advance for any1 who can advise.

 

Yes, so long as you are using the displayport then G-sync will work.

 

Thanks!

 

Hey guys, can someone please tell me the exact model/part number of the 1080p IPS screen used on this model? And is it the same 30 pin eDP connector as the previous gen (P650RG)?

 

will the P65xHP6(-G) series be added in the title in this thread - or will they get a seperate one?

Does anybody have an idea where i can find the service manual for this model ? Thanks in advance...

 

As seems appropriate for a new gen (even in the same chassis), I posted a new thread here.

 

THIS! This has been driving me crazy since I got my P650RS-G. I've flashed latest BIOS from here:
https://repo.palkeo.com/clevo-mirror/P6xxRS/
and
https://www.mysn.de/driver/XMG/XMG_...gn=affiliate&utm_medium=cpo&utm_content=54264

And issue is still not resolved. Interestingly, with the previously linked bios it actually becomes a little harder to track down (doesn't show as ACPI.sys in Process Explorer but just as generic hardware interrupts).

Only way I've found to workaround this issue when it occurs (beware occurs much more frequently with latest EC/BIOS) is to sleep the machine and then wake it up again straight away.

Pretty annoying and seemingly very hard to fix/track-down bug.

 

I had that issue too, MShybrid fixed it for me. Only appeared in discrete mode.

 

Thanks Sir_H4N5,

I thought it might have something to do with that. Note I've only ever run in discrete mode. Running in MSHybrid though - I was under the impression you couldn't use G-SYNC?

I guess I could reboot back into discrete when I want to use apps that use G-SYNC (i.e. games) but that seems more onerous than my current workaround of sleep/wake when the high cpu thing hits.

 

No clue if it's necessary for G-Sync. I am not using it anyway.
For me it only appeared after hibernation or stand by. A restart usually solved it.

 

I'm gonna try that next time then, thanks.

Also, just realized, there's no 8 bit colour depth output with the 1060, just 6 bit. Is that normal?

 

Hey btuger,

Another user reported that he doesn't have the ACPI cpu issue since he switched to MSHYBRID mode (as opposed to DISCRETE mode). Which mode do you use.

I've always used DISCRETE since I think you can't use G-SYNC in MSHYBRID.

Re the colour depth (I like that you spelled 'colour' correctly!), just checked and my output colour depth only has an option for '6 bpc' (no 8 or any other depth).

I have a 1070 in mine (P650RS-G).

 

Thanks Sir_H4N5,

Hey, just trying to narrow down a few things. You don't happen to turn on the 'flexi charge' options in the bios do you?

 

So I've been watching some GTX1070 laptop gaming benchmarks running games at 2K resolution (2560x1440). I don't know why but all the games on my laptop offer either full HD, 4K or some other resolutions in between but not 2K.

Is it possible to enable it somehow?

 

So basically your machine does not have a native resolution of 2560x1440 (also known as QHD). Some laptops do, like the AORUS machines etc.

Anyways, you can create custom resolutions via the nvidia control panel -> 'change resolution' and then hit the 'Customise...' button. Window pops up and then select 'Create Custom Resolution'.... It's pretty self-explanatory from there.

Again, it's not native for your panel so may look a bit funny but you can still do it (I'm assuming you want to do it so can benchmark your own machine against other benchmarks??).

 

Yup there's that reason plus I've heard 2K scales well on a 4K display so I'd like the higher fps with all settings cranked up.

 

Or you just use the Downsampling Resolution Option in Nvida Control Center... You will not have to forve or create any reslolution, just enable the DSR Multiplicator under Nvidia Control -> 3D Settings -> Global -> DSR (2560x1440 should be x 1.78 if you have a Full DH Display).

Best regards

phila

 

I was using MSHYBRID mode but I also want to benefit from G-SYNC so having to change every time is annoying. I'm gonna try the sleep/ wake method whenever I can.

Isn't it weird? Does that mean the monitor is only capable of 6 bpc or it's because of the card? (Thank you )

 

Flexicharger is still bugged for me, even with the latest xmg EC/Bios. Once it loads to max, it buggs out. Only a NVRAM reset helps. So annoying!

 

I`ll be curious to see if the same happens to me... Up to now I did not have to recharge to teh max (set mine to start: 40% / stop: 80%). Besides the controll center that does not display the battery stats correctly everything is fine for me. But I`ll report back as soon as I had a reload...

Best regards

phila

 

Ok thx. i cant get it working again, even a nvram reset doesnt help anymore. meh

 

If you guys are running the latest XMG BIOS and have an external monitor, can you run a test for me? Set your system to discrete, then configure your display to output only to the external one. Put your machine to sleep, then wake it up. Can you let me know if both the built-in and external screens power on and/or display anything?

I'm having this issue with my P670RS on this BIOS/EC. Here's a video showing it. The problem does not occur in MSHybrid mode.

 

After some advice from @Stooj I decided to spend some time OCing my P650RP6. For reference, this laptop's only difference is that it comes with a 512GB SSD and 16GB RAM. Everything else is the same for standard cheapest P650RP6 (6700HQ, 1060 6GB, no G-sync). I'm currently benching with the latest demo version of Firestrike, and I manage to get my overclock to stay stable at these values using Afterburner:

• Core frequency: +200 MHz
• Memory frequency: +500 MHz

My settings:

• Power limit, temperature limit, and voltage control all locked out
• Ambient temperature is ~25F
• ClevoCC is not running in the background
• Only Afterburner and 3DMark are active
• Steam is not running in the background

One thing to note is that there definitely is a throttle going on here, although I'm not sure why the limit is so low. Afterburner reported that my max temperature is 55C. Sadly, I couldn't find any unlocked vBIOS for it. My personal tolerance is ~70C, so there's a whole lot of room for possible improvement there.

I will also try the demo version of Time Spy to see if it's stable enough at these settings as well, and will update this post accordingly. My guess is that, as the laptop ages and dust starts to build up (despite my best effort to clean it), along with the summer's warmer temperature, I will probably need to scale the above offset down in order to keep it stable.

I hope that the above value should give other owners a rough guideline on how far you can push the 6GB 1060. It may or may not apply to other laptop models, but these number should still be pretty close to what you can expect out of it. Thanks again @Stooj

 

I just checked. After falling below 40% my notebook started charging and stopped at 80% like I set it in bios.

Reset of the Flexicharger should work like this: Disable Flexicharger in Bios completely. Save and resrart. Then enabel Flexicharger in Bios again.

Best regards

phila

P.S.: Have you flashed both EC and BIOS?!

 

Yes i did. At first your method without success, then i did a nvram reset.
i do also have the latest XMG BIOS AND EC installed.

Last thing i can test is to shut down after disabling and enabling Flexicharger instead of just rebooting.
My latest Setting before i bugged out was 80/100%. Maybe setting 100% was a bad idea, i will try x/80%.

 

Does anyone else have issues with their P650-RS not waking from sleep? It's quite aggravating. If I finish at work and close the lid to sleep and take it home, when I try to wake it I hear fans and keyboard is lit but no display. I have to hard reset it. Drives me nuts. I don't know if it's because I am set to discrete only, or if it's an issue with not being plugged in or what but it's quite annoying. Wondering if I'm the only one. Thanks


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Try to disable windows Fast Boot.
Make sure you have the correct Control Center version installed for your model.
Are you running a Dual Boot system?

 

OC is a fine thing. With Pascal and Afterburner you might also try undervolting - as with OC alone your system will reach the power limit sooner, which in turn will result in throtteling.

You can do this by Pressing CTRL+F in Afterburner and adjusting the Voltage/Frequency curve. I found out that my card is able to maintain 1709 mhz alt 800vm.I can reach higher clocks with more mV - yet at the cost of the throtteling I allready mentioned.

Best regards

phila

P.S.: I allready posted this here:

 

I didn't know that Afterburner has that feature! Gotta try it now since I don't really play video games 24/7 and will need to use it for work on the go as well (even better if it saves some battery).

Btw from your guide, how do you test that your UC is stable then? Do you just look at the non-OC voltage/frequency curve (ie. leave OC profile off at the time), find the highest frequency before the curve begins to plateau out, then move all grey dots to the right of that frequency to that frequency's grey dot?

 

Set a target clock speed and lock it, then lower the voltage of that point locking each step down.

 

Benchmark below and run same spec like you.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...s-owners-lounge.795090/page-510#post-10449089

 

Damn. I'm jealous of that memory clock lol. Fire strike was already crashing on me at 550.

Edit: @Meaker@Sager, I assume you were talking to me about how to underclock earlier?
If I may ask: how can you check that your underclock settings is stable, since trying to bench it will probably result in a lot of stuttering or more instances of crash?

 

Here is what I did, as I tried to reach a compromise of low mV and high OC:

1. I OCed some and had look what my card could handle in a demanding game in a resolution higher then Full HD in my desired Framerate.*
2. I found that - no matter how hard I OCed, the card would top out at 1695-1709 when under foll load (due to powertarget)**
3. I opened the Frequency/Voltage Meter and flattened the line right of the spot (1), where the 1709mhz was met by the mV (~900mv).***

4. After this proofed stable, I started to raise (2) the points that set the mV on the left side to the desired 1709mhz.****
5. Then I tested and adjusted some more, and in my case ended up having 1709mhz at 800mv.

Have fun (you do any changes at your own risk!!!)

phila

* G-Sync on or "capped Framerate" as Meaker said.
** Witcher 3 / Ultra / 2560x1440
*** This guarantes that the card won`t use more power in less demanding scenes, where it usually would clock up and thus draw more power.
**** This is the undervolting part -> The sooner the line reaches line curve reaches 1709 mhz the better the UV, the more stable the Clock.

 

Hi, I've been following your posts about this issue and I can confirm that my P650RS-G behaves exactly as you describe with XMG bios version 1.05.07a and EC version 1.05.05TR. When it's set to output to external monitor only (discrete mode) and I wake it up from sleep, the built-in display turns on and shows a black screen, while the external monitor works as expected.

 

Sounds like you might want to talk to them about it.

 

Can someone explain to me what the Fn + G + Power combo does in the 1.05.08TR EC? Also BIOS changelog says NVSR panel support, does G-SYNC displays do that or not?

 

I've advised him to send a PM to XMG and provide them with some additional information that they asked me for earlier today. At least I know I'm not crazy and that this is not something that's limited to my specific machine.

 

Hey,

Just followed your directions (am always running discrete), set to external monitor only - slept machine, woke up, and is still only outputting to external monitor (as normally would expect).

My external monitor is connected via hmdi plug at back of screen.

Not seeing the issue that you are seeing.

Hope that helps.

 

Do you have the capability to connect via DisplayPort? And you are using the 1.05.07 BIOS and 1.05.05 EC, correct?


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Nah, the monitor I'm using doesn't have min-dp port. Yes, I'm using XMG bios/ec. Specifically these ones:
XMG_P507_1070_P707_1060_1070_BIOS_1.05.07a
XMG_P507_1070_P707_1060_1070_EC_1.05.05TR