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I am seriously about ready to throw this laptop in the dump. It's so flippin' NOISY!!! I am running BIOS version 1.05.03 LS2. KBC/EC Firmware Revision 1.05.02TR1. I have set up ThrottleStop. I have tried all the fan speed settings in Control Center. What else can I do?

 

Dont throw it out ....
Give it to me i would gladly take it from you !

 

Haha, I'll bet. So, I noticed the fans started getting noisy again after I had switched from Discrete to Hybrid and back to Discrete.

Prior to that, it had been fine as long as ThrottleStop was running. I also remember doing something with fan profiles/tables a long time ago, but I don't remember what it was. Do I need to do that again?

Is there a new BIOS? I got my machine from XOTICPC.

Ideas???? I'm getting desperate. lol

 

i dont know what you have done with your laptop so if going from clean start i would suggest these thing:
1. update bios
2. Pre download all newest drivers from clevo sager or where your laptop is from and put them on usb or on different hdd or partition without windows install
3. nvram reset ( on turned of laptop press fn + D and after power button, can release as soon as it gives power will reset couple times )
3. Do a clean windows install ( install from boot and delete the whole windows partition for best clean results and boot without internet )
4. install all downloaded latest drivers
5. Repaste thermal paste with higher end paste, like grizzly kryonaut ( clean old one with isopropile alcohol for best results) and also dont forget to clean the dust by blowing and cleaning away all dust , best way to blow out from vents is to blow in opposite direction the fans are blowing air.
6. than you can add up undervolt, though after repasting i did not need it, only turn on undervolt now to save power on battery or in very high end games if needed)

 

Hey, I was really in the same situation as you I believe.

The fans were so incredibly noisy, like max fans noisy that I wanted to return it LOL

What I've done is basically give up on discrete mode, I'm running purely on mshybrid now. Discrete simply gave me too much of a headache to deal with tbh. Obviously you don't get g-sync which is unfortunate, but if it's a big deal, you can always switch to it while gaming.

A couple of things that will most likely solve your situation:

1) switch to mshybrid
2) NVRAM reset if you have EVER installed XTU
3) Possibly upgrading BIOS and EC
3.1) My current situation is BIOS: 1.05.05TEU / EC: 1.05.03
4) Although sounds pretty trivial, try pressing reset in in the bottom right hand corner in the CCC. Worked for me for some reason.

With a combination of these things, I was FINALLY able to get my machine to how I liked it. But number 1, switching to MShybrid was what really made my machine perfect.

Before, I was on discrete and fans would run loud AF. Like seriously max level noises, no matter what I was doing. Normal web browsing to games, all run on loud and noisy fans. Sometimes the fans would just turn up all the way for a few seconds, be quiet for a few seconds. It was seriously unbearable, nothing has ever pissed me off like that before ahha. I tried all fan profiles with the different levels, and nothing seemed to be working... Until some user suggested switching mshybrid. I was relucatant because I obviously want g-sync capabilties since I paid for it. However ever since switching, mshybrid has been perfect.

Here's my current set up, works perfectly for all my needs.

When simple web browsing, watching netflix,youtube, coding, etc. I set it to quiet and automatic.
When gaming, I set it to performance and automatic.
With this setup, I have had not a single problem, and this beast finally acts like how I expect it should out of the box.
Hopefully any of that information helps you, or anyone else having noisy fan troubles!

 

Wow he was cleaning the heat sinks off right over the laptop. Would not advise doing that.


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Thanks for the lengthy advice! I really appreciate it. Where can I get the BIOS version you are using? Are you using the same machine as I am? SAGER NP8152-S (CLEVO P650RP6) is what I have with G-Sync. Mine is from XOTIC PC, if that matters.

I tried the NVRAM instructions but I don't think I'm doing it right. Do you have a different way to explain it?

As for drivers, I've checked in two places:
http://www.clevo.com/en/e-services/download/ftpOut.asp?Lmodel=P65xRP6&ltype=9&submit=+GO+
and
http://www.sagernotebook.com/drivers.php?cat=645

Both of these sites show the drivers are from 2016, which I have installed.

 

Oh sorry, didn't realize you have a different system. Mine is the SAGER NP8153 (Clevo P650RS-G) so we have different BIOS and EC. I'm not 100% sure how that works.

If you haven't already, try downloading the Obsidian Tool : http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-drivers-update-utility-by-obsidian-pc.801464/

Check out the thread, it's safe and generally recommended on here. Here you can check drivers, BIOS version and stuff like that.

The way I did an NVRAM reset:

1) Shut off the computer
2) Hold Fn + D + power button
3) Computer may reset a few times, but a message in a blue box should appear. Can't remember what, but there should be a message.
4) NVRAM should be reset just like that.

 

May i know any reason cannot do that? is there any risk? just to get more feedback. May be i will try it on my old laptop and old tablet.

 

Hay all, i habe auch noch Problem.. my Clevo p650rp6-g dont Wang to Startup... Ich habe a Black Screen anderen Themen CPU AMD GPU stay cold....

Anyone an idea?!

Hardware
I7 6700hq
Gtx1070

Is it a BIOS Problem?!

If the graphics card is broken it must nevertheless start with the intel hd or?

 

Can boot into bios? if totally black screen, you can try to change the RAM, unplug battery and power on by power adapter. or is either the cable between LCD screen and motherboard connection problem.

 

Thank you I have already used new ram memory synonymous over hdmi tried but it drives garnicht high it remains synonymous of the cpu and gpu cold. not warm. Have read a lot here

 

To me I would not do that. Rubbing that junk off over your laptop components is not my cup of tea. Pieces could fall off and get in between components or possibly get into a fan and cause issues. It's just not "clean" so to speak. But that's just me and my OCD.


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Is the power circuitry getting warm? If so and the chips are cold the system is likely dead.

 

We have exactly the same system from the same reseller, XoticPc. I never had any problems save Gsync that needs a workaround. Always had mine on Discrete Mode.
Got my latest BIOS from here:
https://www.mysn.de/driver/XMG/XMG_P507_P707/BIOS/
And EC from here:
https://repo.palkeo.com/clevo-mirror/P65xRP6/
Never use Intel XTU, update drivers from ObsidianTools (the best!). NVRAM reset if need be.

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Hallo. I and many others have had the same problem. In Discrete mode the laptop would not always boot up. In Hybrid mode the laptop would start eventually but crash occasionally and always when playing games. I switched to Discrete again and my laptop would not boot past a black screen. My laptop was sent for repair to fix it but I have not received it back yet.

If you can switch to Hybrid in the BIOS the laptop should be mostly usable except for gaming until you can get it fixed. I just hope the issue isn't a recurring one after the fix.

Good luck!

 

Yeah, I had to start using only Hybrid mode on my laptop because the fans revving up in Discrete mode even when the system was idle was really irritating. I switch to Discrete for G-Sync if I wanted to play a game.

Hybrid mode runs perfectly cool and I rarely hear the fans during normal use. It is a slight annoyance having to reboot to change modes though.

 

There were a lot of units with defective dGPU in the initial release of this model (especially the p650RS-g). I had one and the repair didn't fix it. I got a refund eventually. You will find a lot of reports in the first 300 pages. I think I reported my issue somewhere between pages 300 and 350.

The laptop not booting in Discrete is because the dGPU is malfunctioning and probably defective.

 

That is my worry, that it's an inherent problem with this model and a repair or replacement might just be a ticking time bomb since it seems a rather common, specific issue. It's essentially been a $1900 netbook the last few months, half the time I've owned it, since I couldn't be without a laptop so couldn't RMA and the dGPU wouldn't work.

It's my first Sager/Clevo and I was quite happy with the laptop before this, albeit with a few niggling issues I could live with (power cable is too short, backlight bleed and fans revving up while idle in Discrete mode). Fingers crossed the issue is fixed once and for all.

 

I went the MSHybrid mode to turn down my fans. It was driving me nuts.

To prevent rebooting for gsync, I use MSI afterburner to limit my FPS to 60. With this setup, I get a poor mans gsync plus tolerable fan noise when not gaming.

I also read that limiting the frames this way reduces the GPU load, thus reducing GPU heat. I am not sure if this is accurate or not.

MSHybrid + Frame Lock With MSI Afterburner made my computer a joy to use. I have only had it a few days and the fan noise was driving me *crazy*.

 

I wouldn't worry about the heat too much, this thing does a great job with cooling. Do you have a boot SSD? Mine takes nothing to reboot.

 

Yup, mine reboots quickly too. But, with my setup, it's not necessary.

The older I get, the more impatient I get, so this works great .

 

Hi,

I have the same laptop as you and was wondering if the bios from the xmg page is the unbranded clevo bios (stylenote) or not? Also which instructions did you follow to update your bios/ec. Simply making a dos stick and launch flashme.bat (bios) and ECflash.bat (ec) or something else like the EFI shell where you first need to run something like MEset or something?

 

MYSN has XMG Logo Bios

you can flash via EFI shell, or DOS or sometimes Windows (not recommended) - i can only provide a guide for EFI flash in german language here

For DOS you can use the guide here, but check for YOUR Bios files (the files linked in the thread may be fo another model ! Do NOT flash them if you have some other Clevo model)

 

Ah thx for the post link. Guess il just use Dos then. I remember i flashed my bios once with efi shell but that went all automatic as soon as i entered the efi shell without doing all the other stuff so yea..Anyways im still curious what @ronzky321 has to say about the bios boot image since we share the exact same laptop and thus bios files.

 

Xmg bios has the XMG logo on startup, which I like way more than the "Stylenote". The EC I got from the clevo link I gave. Seems to provide smoother fan operation imho.
And yes the ONLY procedure includes flashing thru bios after disabling UEFI boot, running .bat file, and re-enabling UEFI boot afterwards. Roughly that's the process, if you need step by step you can search thru the threads here just in case. Be sure to get the correct bios/ec files for your unit.
Sad to hear other people are having a hard time making their units to work properly. Been enjoying this baby since August.

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Edit: I mean flashing thru DOS

 

Cool thx for confirming that for me. Gonna ask my retailer first if they have their own bios/ec files for me and otherwise if they are cool with an xmg bios.

 

Going to replace my keyboard. . P67xRS . . .
Reading the handbook that a special tool needed.

"release the keyboard module (use the special
eject stick"

any one know if that tool is a most ? i dont want to send the computer back to Germany :/

 

Typical screwdriver will be ok ( i used it a few times).

 

Hello! I have a Clevo P650RS with the first bios and ec. I have the problems with loud fans and lag when I connect it through HDMI. Haven't been here for a while. Are they fixed? Which bios/ec should I flash to fix them? (I heard that 1.05.07 bios and 1.05.05 ec have some problems but i'm not sure) Thanks

 

Sigh so dissapointed. Well, after everything was going well for what seemed like a week, my fans randomly just became insufferable again....

Everything has been going perfectly for a week, maybe two now that I switched to MSHybrid. But today, as soon as I booted up my machine, the fans became as loud as they were on Discrete. This is literally doing nothing, and it's sitting on idle. I haven't changed any settings, downloaded anything new, just woke up this morning to loud ass fans...

Starting to feel some serious buyers remorse here, I buy a 2k+ machine, and something as "simple" as fans aren't working.

I mean I've done everything I believe to alleviate this problem, and switching to MSHbrid was perfect... Until it wasn't.

Please, I need some answers, this is like the single most annoying thing on here, the machine is perfect when the fans don't act all ****ty.

Thanks everyone, just need to rant at these ****ty fans and their lack of working.

EDIT: Also, where is @Eurocom Support via email... I sent a message three weeks ago addressing my concerns, and I was never replied back to. It has been pretty frustrating so far. I'm not sure if the email is " [email protected]" but if it is, they have not replied to my email on May 18th about my concerns of the fan

 

I presume you checked that Hybrid was still on in the BIOS. And when my fans went inexplicably crazy in Hybrid it was usually windows update running in the background. Hopefully you find a solution.

 

Hi, yes I have done that. It was one of the first things I checked. Even tried the old turn it off and on again method switching to discrete back to hybrid.

And yeah, I actually thought that was the problem too. I realized that today I had this:

2017-05 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1703 for x64-based Systems (KB4020102) Failed to Install.

I had about 15 of those messages in Update History, so I thought, hmm, I'm guessing it was trying to install in the background, that must be the problem of the erratic behaviour!

Well, I eventually install it successfully, and the fans go back to quiet when I reset. I guess I solved it!

Nope, fans turn back up again. Can you confirm that you are on KB4020102?

The weird thing is too, I didn't receive a message in the notification centre saying that it was installed successfully.

Sigh, thanks for your support though!

 

I don't have my laptop with me right now so can't check my current build unfortunately. Glad to hear it's sorted though.

 

Hey, sorry, I didn't actually solve it ahha. You might have missed the part where I said "Nope!" LOL

I thought that I found out the problem, turns out it didn't work.

I'm going to give it another day, but I have contacted my reseller and I'm going to see if maybe my EC is acting up for whatever reason.

We'll see!

But thanks though, if you could tell me your EC + BIOS and your build when possible, that would be greatly appreciated

 

Sorry, I must have misunderstood. My laptop on an RMA so I can't say which bios it had. I didn't update the BIOS or EC from whdn I got it about 6 months ago though. Best of luck with it anyway!

 

Ah alright thanks!

Well, I shutoff my computer for an hour to go mow the lawn. And lo and behold it's back to normal.

This thing is so frustrating. But, I guess patience is a virtue fans and temps back to normal from literally doing nothing but turning it off. Sigh, this machine is so perfect, if it weren't for the random fan problems

 

I had fan issues when I first got my machine (griped way back probably in the first 10-15 pages of this thread). It drove me crazy, and I was ready to return it until I discovered that the control center profiles that I was using had custom fan profiles that made them randomly go nuts. Make sure they are set to auto.

 

Hi yes, thanks for the reply! They are on auto at the moment.

The problem has temporarily been alleviated, nothing I did on my part

So I'm not how long it will last, but I have an itch it had something to do with windows update. Apparently there was about 15 attempts that failed. But even after I succesfully installed the update, the problem persitsted for about an hour. So I shut off my computer of frustration for a while, and lo and behold I came back and it was solved.

I'm guessing it's a combination of windows update, and perhaps my EC?

This is the first time I had the problem since switching to MShybrid.

 

What is your system again? Have you done a clean install of Windows to check if it's still loud after first boot?
I would suggest to do a clean install to eliminate all other possibilities. Also update your BIOS and EC before clean OS install.

 

I downloaded and installed the EC - version 1.05.06 and since doing that, my fans have gone back to quiet. Thanks for the help!

 

Did you actually install a older ec version over your current newer version(cuz i read somewhere that it wasn't possible to downgrade without problems)? Cuz i see there is a 1.05.08TR version on the xmg page.

 

I think he mentioned he was on 1.05.03 before updating. Nevertheless, I also did an EC downgrade before and there were no problems. BIOS is a different story tho.

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I've asked this before, but no one answered so I'm gonna try one more time are bios 1.05.07 and ec 1.05.05 for P650RS without problems? Or I should update to other versions? Thanks

 

RIP. Last night my fans started randomly again.

Woke up this morning to fan problems persist again. Sigh, I'm not even sure why

Maybe an EC upgrade will fix these problems once and for all.

 

I have the Eurocom Sky mx5 r2 which is the p650rs-G equivalent.

Also, I have not done a clean install, thats kind of a last option as I would have to reinstall everything, but if push comes to shove I may just do that.

Also been getting some random overheating problems, I'm on MSHybrid, and my GPU is shooting up to 65celcius+ on idle...

 

Hi everyone, it's been a few months since I've followed the thread let alone post anything here. I was playing Shadow of Mordor after 3 years now and I noticed that my GPU was constantly hitting 90C to 92C while gaming. I have no idea why the temps are going that high because I connect my system to a 4K TV and place it sideways such that the left edge is always pointing upwards (this allows unobstructed airflow). The Temperature drops during cutscenes to around 77C but climbs back up to 90C during gameplay. Do you think something's wrong? Do I need to make any changes? I always run undervolted using ThrottleStop so I expected temperatures to be within reasonable ranges but I'm concerned that this might fry my system soon.

Please help.

 

Ah cool. Thought it was both the bios and ec that couldn't be downgraded.

 

Well, I'm not sure if these numbers mean anything to you, but on idle right now my fan speed is set to automatic power conservation is set to balance and the back fan is reaching a level of about 30-35db.



For comparison, if I switch to Custom, I reach levels of about 25-26db. Another problem that may or may no be Clevo Control Panel's fault is that Custom, i'm pretty sure simply does not work... If I throw on custom, I can see that my computer's cpu + gpu temp just keep rising...



Before all my fan problems, fan speed of automatic used to have custom decibel levels, unless of course I did something heavier. I am using the app called Sound Meter for reference.

 

want to ask a question, I noted some review mention that the performance on P670RP6-G compared to P650RP6-G there is 2-3% performance different. Is it related to the vbios or what? just want to understand why same spec same speed, but performance different. like compare to MSI laptop also different. power efficiency?