*** Official Clevo P65xRS(-G), P65xRP6(-G) / Sager NP8153(-S), NP8152(-S) Owner's Lounge ***

With turbo 3.0 the testing conditions and chip quality can easily cause that sort of variation in GPU performance.

 

@Galm13 @Meaker@Sager Guys is it safe to be running the system at 90C GPU temp under load? What can I possibly do in order to lower it?

 

Yoo are near the limit. Change to new good quality paste, pads and a mod U3 cooler will help.

 

As a temporary solution, you might try limiting frame rate with RivaTuner. 45-30FPS cap might save you 10-20C.

 

still have startup freeze when computer reboot at cold. , Style Note logo will hang :/ . . after reboot computer start normal again.. very enoying.

 

Sounds like the same problem I had and your dGPU is dying. Are you on Hybrid or Discrete mode in bios?

 

When you talk about a good quality paste, do you mean I should repaste the CPU and GPU? I opted for the Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra thermal compound for my CPU when I ordered my system back in October 2016 (I think the GPU came with the stock paste which must be ****ty). Can you recommend the best thermal compound that one should use to ensure the coolest temperatures?

I saw this video guide on Youtube to repaste both the components and I feel I should be able to work in the similar fashion to repaste them both. I've never done this procedure on a laptop before so I'm scared I might screw something up.



Awaiting your response so I can place an order for the right thermal compound and get started with the process soon.

 

Take a look at the suggested Thermal Paste. Liquid Metal is the Nr.1 thermal paste but don't expect the big difference between Liquid metal and top notch ordinary paste in the link for GPU. If you go for Liquid metal for GPU be careful if you haven't used this paste before. See this link "How NOT to Liquid Metal repaste"
As well... Remember the colder you can hold your Cpu, the better as well for Gpu if the setup use shared pipes-heatsink between Cpu-Gpu.

 

Thank you so much for the swift reply sir! I'm tempted to get the Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut paste and get the job done on my system. I've looked at both the posts that you mentioned above and like I mentioned earlier, I have no experience whatsoever playing with laptop repastes so I have my fingers crossed. I wouldn't want to mess anything up like MiSJAH explained in his post and end up with fried innards on such a costly system (I'm just a student after all)

Here's a screenshot of my current temps (just regular web browsing, 14 tabs open on Chrome). I'd appreciate it if you could take a look and point out if you find any anomaly here.



Best,
AJ

 

If you get this max temp with only regular use like you say (web browsing, 14 tabs open on Chrome). It's on time you fix your cooling.
Btw. Rather use HWiNFO64 for monitoring of your hardware.

 

I hit this max temp while playing Metal Gear Solid: The Phantom Pain earlier today; I believe that's what remained in the history ever since I launched the application.

 

I assumed it since the gpu was + 90C. But the temp is all too high. What Cpu clock speed is running? Btw. 52C in ordinary use isn't alarming. All depends on your ambient temp and as I said, the clock speed.

 

Which pads would you recommend?

 

Read the Update-Thermal Pads

 

My apologies for not spotting this before. Thank you good sir.

 

Really interesting. My laptop is starting to get much hotter than it used to be so I'll probably repaste and try those pads + U3 cooler. But why they don't recommend the grizzly pads? They look better than the others on the graphs, but they don't even mention them as recommended

Btw, I guess most of us will have lots of cooling problems the next couple of months. The 1070 is a beast generating heat and when ambient temperature is 40C... it can get pretty hot no matter what (80C+ with -180mV in my case, max fans)

Btw, is there any modding you can do to the heatsinks/cooling system to improve it? I've never modded anything like that, for obvious reasons, but was wondering if it might exist something!

 

As long as heatsink has a good fit against the die and the pads have good contact... Not much you can add. Use as I said quality paste + pads and a mod U3 But lower ambient will help FYI. Grizzly pads is good quality. And remember use of soft pads with good fit is best.

 

I use grizzly pads and they have been working well

 

What are the pad thicknesses for a p650hs_g? I have been thinking of replacing the pads but am unsure of the measurements. Thanks!


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I've not personally measured them or investigated if you can get them any thinner on the series.

 

Hi all, so I think I finally have my fans back to normal. I had to do a clean windows install, annoying but not the worst thing ever.

A few questions though, how is everyone's experience while watching netflix?

Currently, if I watch netflix on chrome, fans get pretty loud, I'm not sure if it's a chrome problem or a netflix problem. I'm leaning more towards netflix because I can watch twitch and youtube both no problem and fans don't even kick up.

Just asking if anyone can share some insight, thanks!

 

Thanks guys, I'll go with grizzly pads+paste. I'm trying to find the U3 cooler mod, since there were a couple of them around, but I can't find it through google or the forum search. Only result I got is a onedrive folder which seems to be death. Anyone has it?

I just had my first BSOD with my clevo. The error was DRIVER IRQL NOT LESS OR EQUAL. SyntTP

I'm guessing it's because of the synaptics touchpad driver, which is updated. Should I worry?

Since the new creators update most light tasks like netflix, chrome, twitch and such make the gpu to run with a higher clock than before for some reason, which means increased fan speed. I've found that there's not much of a fix besides removing the creators

 

Thanks for the insight! Just curious, do you still have creators or have you rolled back to a previous version? If that's even possible ahha.

And actually, I have a fix for you! I had the exact same problem, and doing these steps fixed it

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/synaptics-causes-bsod-on-p650se.770938/page-16#post-10235938

follow the steps carefully, and remember to delete ONLY the hotkey ones.

If you're not comfortable just following those steps, let me know, I can give you a simpler step by step, but hopefully that should be enough!

 

Thanks I save it in case I get BSOD again, after almost 1 year with the laptop is the first time it happens.

I have still the creators update, since reinstalling windows again, or rolling back or whatever, is just too much effort to slightly reduce fan noise, I'll wait till they fix the several bugs of the update. In any case is not insane, just louder than it was before (it was dead silent if not gaming). Besides, at 40C therés a limit improvement I could manage, so I will just hold until Autumm and then will see if it's still too loud

 

Oh for sure no problem, I had that BSOD within my first two weeks of having this thing so it was really annoying, but a really quick fix.

Ahh I see. Unfortunately, I had the misfortune of buying it post creators update so all I know are the fans this way unfortunately. Also had a plethora of fan problems until fresh installing.

Hopefully they iron out the bugs eventually, its bearable now, but from everyone's review, it was running near perfect until creators.

 

I believe ambient temperatures are to blame more than anything else for such high system temps these days with the summers here in full swing. I'm considering getting myself a cooling pad before I actually go ahead and repaste since I already had Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra on the CPU ( I know that sounds pretty noobish). It has been 8 months+ since I've had this laptop so I'm not sure how long the thermal compound is supposed to last. The liquid metal stuff is pretty tempting but the chances of messing up are higher if not done right. But then again, risk = reward so...

 

Discret . . ill try all kinds of settings . . first start of the day if computer has been cold for like 8h it allways freeze at Style note logo. : 1.05.01

and the process to update bios is a week long project almost :/ maybe its possible to get an .img of the newest bios and just clone it to a usb.

 

Sounds exactly like my problem. My laptop would take several attempts to boot in Discrete but would work perfectly in windows with Hybrid mode. It would crash when I played games in Hybrid mode though. The crashing got worse over time and when I switched back to Discrete mode after a month or so the laptop would not boot at all. I had to RMA my laptop to fix it.

 

How exactly do you do pads and paste? I've never heard of using both.

What thickness of pad should I be getting? 0.5, 1, 1.5, or 2?

Do you use pads and paste on both the CPU and GPU?

 

Pads are not used with paste on the GPU and CPU. They are however used on other parts of the system.
If you take the cooling equipment off the mainboard you will see all the pads that can be replaced with improved versions.

 

Pads are used for power circuitry (Inductors, power ICs, capacitors) and video ram. Paste is used for the GPU and CPU cores.

 

Does anyone know how to fix the battery life? Mine can never reach 3 hours no matter what I do even browsing with low brightness, battery saving, etc.

 

I guess the first thing everyone will ask is are you running in MSHYBRID or DEDICATED mode? and have you enabled flexi charge in the past?

 

MSHybrid, I figured it out pretty much. Flexi Access seems to turn itself on every once a while and turns on the GPU even in hybrid mode. Is it related to flexi charge? And how do I turn it off completely?

 

I believe I figured out this answer by accident! Well at least works for me.

If you right click the control centre in the hidden icons panel, Flexi access will probably be turned on. Just click it again to have it off.

Mine used to do the same thing, but I believe that fixed it for me and it hasn't turned on by itself since!

 

Tried that, it then starts acting silly and turns itself back on again....

Really weird, it looks like something to do with wireless connections or something why does it need to wake my 1060 up?

 

Try manually setting the executable to IGP only.

 

Any idea on where it could be? I know that the executable is faser.exe or fraser.exe based on the Nvidia usage indicator.

 

Try both, any background process should never invoke the dGPU.

 

Have you been able to fix the downclocking issue?

Mind does exactly the same thing once the gpu(GTX 1070) is under load. Thinking of flashing a different bios but not sure which one fixes the issue, is the prema bios for this model out yet?

 

What's the TDP level during the run?

 

I undervolt of 80-185 can remove throttling

 

Yes it brings down the power consumption a lot, remember the mobile chips run at a 45W TDP.

 

Isn't that because the default BIOS/EC has a power limit on the system that renders OC'ing pointless until Prema releases something? That was my understanding of the situation

 

Intel program in the TDP limit to the mobile chips directly.

 

Thought I'd update everyone on my RMA process for the failure to boot and crashing when gaming. I received my laptop back and it's functioning as normal again. Sager said they replaced a chip on the motherboard which I can only assume was the GPU. Overall I was very happy with the RMA, it was a smooth process. Hopefully the problem isn't a recurring one. It's a phenomenal machine so I'm glad to have it back to 100%.

 

I'm glad you can get back to enjoying it

 

What version of the Sound Blaster is everyone running? All of a sudden, my headphones are super loud, like I can't turn the volume up when headphones plugged in above 2. 4 is loud, 6 is unbearable. My driver version is 1.00.18 according to the Obsidian PC app (which shows no updates available).

 

After a lot of testing an undervolt of 166 (171 reported in cpu-z) is perfectly stabile and brings Down cpu-temp i games around 10C. I also notice that due to partially shared coolingsolution on mye 651RS GPU-temp never exceeds CPU-temp. In normal games the worst I have experienced is 78C on both during Witcher 3 on ultra+fullHD. Without UV CPU-temp tends to lay around 87C.

 

The CPU consumes less power but is more dense so does tend to run a bit hotter than the GPU at stock.