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Can anyone report to me their fan levels while running Unity 3D?

To preface, I'm using MSHybrid, and I believe the Intel card is in use according to Nvidia Control panel.

It seems that at least for me, fans are running quite fast and loud.

To be fair, i'm not sure how taxing Unity is on a computer, but they are quite loud around 50db where the fans are in the back. It's quite annoying especially if I want to do some simple coding and nothing much is going on.

I'm guessing that Unity is just using the much power and requires much more fan speed to not overload?

It's just weird cause if i'm using chrome with like 10+ tabs and twitch one one screen, youtube on another, fans are pretty much dead silent almost.

If anyone has their results, please let me know, thanks!

 

Does that mean there is no hope of ever getting the downclocking issue fixed? even with the premamod we are waiting for?

 

You can work around it but this is intended behaviour for mobile chips to stick to their TDP. The advantage to going to a desktop platform is the entire platform including heatsinks and power delivery is designed to drive well beyond stock TDP (which is higher to start with).

 

Hi everyone, can anyone tell me what their current intel VGA driver is? I'm experiencing some crashing in Overwatch, and I'm sure it has to do with the drivers!

When I was trying to install Intel Drivers, under intel VGA it told me to update.

So, since you're app is so good, I just downloaded no questions asked LOL!

However, under Latest column, the driver is under 21.20.16.4691. But When I installed, the driver was 22.20.16.4691

Then, once I updated, my driver was ahead, and upon a quick google search, I'm not actually sure intel driver 22.20.16.44691 is actually compatible with intel HD 530.

So I went on the website to see if there was a log of latest drivers, and apparently the latest one they have intel hd 530 is driver 21.20.16.4678

Just wondering if there were possibly any issues with that, thanks!

 

Hi everyone,

I'm getting some really high Nvidia GPU idle temps... They're hovering around 51+ degrees Celsius. Usually, that isn't a problem as it's pretty good temps.

However, with temps that high, the fans are pretty unbearable, especially since it's on idle literally doing nothing. Does anyone experience that?

I'm really close to selling this thing tbh, I just keep getting headache after headache and it's starting to drive me crazy.

 

You should not be monitoring it at idle or you will be keeping it awake. If you are in dedicated mode see if something is loading it and stopping it from reaching idle clocks.

 

Hi, i'm not sure what you mean by this. Could you give me an example of how I would check that out?

At the moment i'm on MShybrid, so i'm not sure where the Nvidia GPU is being used considering there is nothing running in the background. At least according to task manager. This happens every so often, and I'm not quite sure why.

 

Use Hwinfo64 for monitoring of temp and power usage for all your hardware.

 

Use the activity monitor in the desktop dropdown menu of the nvidia drivers on the top. Then look in task bar.

 

Turn on Nvidia's activity indicator in the control panel, probably something keeping your GPU on. Won't be surprised if it was felxiaccess just like my unit, it's dead quiet as long as I keep that stupid service off.

 

Is it just me or are the speakers are a bit quiet? My retina Macbook Pro 13 seems to be louder which is weird judging by the macbook's smaller speaker.

 

Hey, I am running a P650-HS (7820 instead of 6820/6700) and 1070 - and am having the exact same issues - with the same monitor. Very low frame rates - mouse pointer lags a lot. Disabling g-sync solved the problem for me. I wonder if you have found any solution?

 

Thanks, I did figure it out. So for some reason, everytime I ran Overwatch, or some other games even after I stopped playing the fans would continue to run at high speeds no matter what I did until I shutdown.

Eventually, I did this and my gosh this was so helpful. Turns out, for whatever reason, the Windows Store was running on my GPU AFTER I stopped playing games and would keep my GPU temps at 50+ degress thus making them keep spinning.

I simply went to Nvidia control panel, made the store app just use integrated graphics and voila. Fans stop spinning forever after I've played a game. Super silly, and no idea why it did that, but I think my machine is finally getting to the point where I'm not pulling my hair out.

 

Nope, definitely not just you. These are one of the quietest speakers I've ever owned, way quieter than even my surface. I guess they had to skim out on some pricing, and the speakers were one of them. The only real caveat for me is that the DAC Sabre for my headphones are absolutely gorgeous and probably one of the best sounds I've ever experienced tbh.

But yeah, unfortunately, speakers are just super weak.

 

They are alright, just not loud enough for the fans and loud places. So getting a decent set of cans seems to be a must I guess for those situations.

 

Welp... Keep getting BSOD's after games now...

Anyone know what I can to fix this besides switching to discrete mode?

The error I'm getting is igdkmd64.sys and the stop code is VIDEO_TDR_FAILURE

Is there anyway I can check like a log or something of errors that I have had that I can post? I'm on the latest Intel as well as Nvidia drivers so that shouldn't be a problem. The only thing that I can think of, is just right now I checked I haven't downloaded and installed the newest Windows 10 update, but I'm not sure how much of it will help. Seems to me like intel and possibly Nvidia drivers are clashing somehow?

I read something online saying to use the reliability monitor, and these are the results I got? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

http://imgur.com/a/GaRZ1

 

Download and install WHO CRASHED. Read what the error log says and then search it up on the web.

 

Thanks, I've done that, I knew what the error was, however I'm still having a hard time fixing it...

This is what I get:

crash dump file: C:\WINDOWS\Minidump\062917-6500-01.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: igdkmd64.sys (igdkmd64+0xFF90)
Bugcheck code: 0x116 (0xFFFFA4827CC9A010, 0xFFFFF809B351FF90, 0x0, 0xD)
Error: VIDEO_TDR_ERROR
file path: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\igdlh64.inf_amd64_d44295a98a21a376\igdkmd64.sys
product: Intel HD Graphics Drivers for Windows(R)
company: Intel Corporation
description: Intel Graphics Kernel Mode Driver
Bug check description: This indicates that an attempt to reset the display driver and recover from a timeout failed.
A third party driver was identified as the probable root cause of this system error. It is suggested you look for an update for the following driver: igdkmd64.sys (Intel Graphics Kernel Mode Driver, Intel Corporation).
Google query: Intel Corporation VIDEO_TDR_ERROR


a quick google search doesn't yield much results on how to resolve this really.

The only solution that has worked is switching to Discrete mode, but it's pretty annoying switching back and forth all the time. Especially since Discrete mode is so noisy, I can't take it. Does anyone else have this issue?

My current drivers -

Intel : 22.20.16.4708
Nvidia: 22.21.13.8476

I would just LOVE to be able to fix this issue, I'm so close to getting this machine to perfect after so many tries, but it's getting real tiresome.

EDIT: May or may not be relevant, but I recently started using an external monitor thats connected via hdmi -> dvi-d adapter.

If anyone has played the beta game lawbreakers from steam, can you tell me if you get instant BSOD upon end of game, because that's what is happening to me.

 

Check with a single stick of ram, it could be slight ram instability.

 

Does anybody have pics of where they put thermal pads? Just curious where you are putting them. I'm going to try pads and repasting with Thermal Grizzly. If this doesn't quiet it down, I'm going to go nuts.

I may actually sell it if it doesn't do any good. I'm just fed up with this stupid thing.

 

Is anyone getting high idle temps in Discrete mode? This is soo annoying, and it happens randomly.

One time I'll be watching youtube and twitch at the same time, and my machine will remain dead quiet. My GPU temps will stay around 40-45 degrees and therefore the ramps won't turn up.

I then turn off all my apps, and make my computer go idle where I don't do anything... Why on earth is my GPU turning up to 53 C? This makes the fans go way too loud and fast, especially for something that's doing nothing?

Does this make sense to anyone, I have no idea why it's happening. There are 3 programs used by the GPU, the winstoreapp.exe, microsoftphotos.exe, and video.ui.exe.

I've basically turned them off in the nvidia control panel.

I'm honestly at a loss for words.... For two days in discrete mode things were working perfectly, now the fans are just running high again and they're not even using anything.... Why is this machine so damn bipolar.

 

Is it just me or the Discrete/MSHybird switch in the control centre is broken? Looks like it just stuck in MSHybird even on discrete mode. Is it broken for everyone is just me?

 

Never tried switching in CCC but I heard it was bugged lol. So definitely not just you.

 

Well I repasted with Grizzly... CPU temps routinely sit around 70 degrees C while doing nothing and spike up to almost 100 under load. GPU at about 40, spikes to 70 under load. Also put on new pads where they were already on the components.

Still loud as hell. ThrottleStop doesn't seem to do anything at all for the temps. I'm at a loss and am ready to get rid of this thing.

 

Hey man, I know this isn't Ideal to hear, but have you tried clean installing Windows?

That was my exact same problem too. Heavy load and temperatures messing up everything. I uninstalled drivers, I tried all kinds of crazy ****.

Eventually I had to do a clean Windows install along with flashing a new EC and getting a CCC from my vendor. Honestly, if that doesn't do the trick, sorry boss, I got nothing else, that FINALLY did the trick for me. Not ideal whatsoever, but it was necessary.

 

I did do a clean install of Windows before I tried repasting. I downloaded the drivers from XOTICPC's drivers site. I got the latest BIOS from them as well.

 

Hmm, have you tried using Obsidian Tool to download your drivers? Here's the link if you want to check, they're pretty well established here : http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-drivers-update-utility-by-obsidian-pc.801464/

Also, when you get into your BIOS can you tell me your EC Firmware version? You may also need to get a file from them to flash it on your system.

 

Tried idling mine, stayed at 42 degrees. Sometimes however stupid felxiaccess and the microsoft store decide to run for no reason whatsoever and get it to 53 C. I guess I need to turn off that service along with the microsoft store completely since they will use the dedicated GPU in discrete mode (after all there is no integrated GPU for them to use!). I really don't want these two programs to hog my GPU.

 

Yeah heard they are indeed bugged before, but maybe there is a working version somewhere? Can you try taking a look at it in the gaming column?

 

Does anyone know if you can disable Hypertheading in the BIOS?
I just recently sent my laptop back for repair because I kept getting BSODs.
(Which is in transit on the way back to me)

Come to find out there is a flaw in the microcode for "all" Skylake and Kaby Lake processors with Hypertheading.

And I have zero faith a BIOS update will be out anytime soon for our model...

Linux has a microcode fix.
Windows will likely require a "firmware" fix

https://arstechnica.com/information...have-a-crash-bug-with-hyperthreading-enabled/

 

Hmm, yeah I'm around the same, good thing I fixed the flexiaccess and microsoft store thing.

Also, can I ask what fan profile you're using? While in automatic it's good for the most part but sometimes fans ramp up really weirdly.
However I'm in Custom, they behave fine. I'm tempted to just use Custom while browsing and watching as they seem to work fine. I'm just scared because last time I tried Custom, my CPU overheated and had to shutdown.

 

What did you want to me to check out in the gaming column? Also which version of CCC are you on?

 

I have used Obsidian in the past. Does it matter that I purchased the computer from XOTICPC?

My bios version is 1.05.09 LS2 (got it from XOTICPC rep) and my EC is 1.05.08.

Isn't it odd that the CPU is at 70 degrees doing absolutely nothing??? It was routinely at 60-70 before the repaste too.

I've tried on both Discrete and Hybrid, doesn't make any difference.

 

Hmm, well they're more updated than mine LOL!

Yeah CPU at 70 for idle is definitely out of the ordinary. I would wager anything under 50 for idle for both the GPU and CPU something is wrong.

This is kind of out of left field, but I did some reading and I think it's possible. Could you have perhaps downloaded a miner virus? Like they're using your card to mine cryptocurrency and stuff. Probably not what's happening, but a possibility. Other than that, sorry no idea bud. Your guess is as good as mine.

 

Yeah a surface can put out Bose speaker level sounds, while this one reaches that vol at 100%. One way to increase is to go to the sound blaster x fi software control panel, go to the second menu, turn on sbx, click loud on the options. Voila your output vol will increase enough to justify laptop speakers

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I use custom set to 50% fan speed, 70C starts the fans and 60C stops the fans. Keeps it mostly bearable and relatively quiet in Discrete mode, though the GPU fan sometimes turns on earlier. Never had overheating issues with it.

See if it says you are in MSHybrid when you actually are in Discrete. This is quite annoying since it doesn't let you switch back unless you go to the BIOS in that case.

Edit: CCC version 5.00001.1.05

 

Based on what I have seen it is mostly to do with certain workloads and in particular ones that required a load of reliability , after all it was detected in a Debian OS made specifically for stable workloads. So, probably not the cause of the BSODs you had. I wouldn't worry about it too much.

 

Wait, I thought the realtek HD audio drivers were the only ones it needed! Probably forgot to install Sound Blaster X.

 

If you don't have the little sound blaster symbol in your bottom right tray then yep, you missed it out.

 

On mine, it didnt show up in startup tray initially bcos it wasnt configured in settings. Your computer might already have, just turn on "open with windows" setting. Its installed by default unless you uninstalled it I guess.

Just download, install from Sager support website otherwise.

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It is odd. Mine right now at cpu-40C along with a laptop cooler (ambient temp 70C) while browsing. (ICD paste)

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Can't find it, do you have a link to it?

 

WTF?! Clevo needs to update our BIOS!
Intel published a fix in May - probably trying to avoid any attention - but it needs to be integrated by the manufacturers.

Unfortunately UEFI BIOS Updater does not support AMI BIOS anymore: http://www.win-raid.com/t154f16-Tool-Guide-News-quot-UEFI-BIOS-Updater-quot-UBU-13.html

So we can't help ourselves
I even dont find any option to disable hyperthreading.

I still have Microcode Update Revision 8A(138). From B9(185) upwards the bug should be fixed.


EDIT:
I found this tool:
https://labs.vmware.com/flings/vmware-cpu-microcode-update-driver#instructions

After using cpumcupdate with the latest intel µcode data file it shows up in my systems event viewer with "Successfully updated microcode on one or more CPUs."

Comfirm the µcode version in hwinfo. It updated the i7-6700HQ to version BA(186).

This tool needs to be run after every reboot as far as i understood.
You also need to download the two files from amd. Otherwise it will not work.

Ok there is already an existing thread.

 

If its not installed go to sager support, plug in model no. and download the compatible software for sound blaster x fi. Currently on the go, otherwise wud have posted link.

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Thanks for answering my question.
I emailed my vendor asking two questuons. (No reply yet because holiday/4th of July)
Can I disabled Hypertheading?
Are they working with their vendor for a bios fix?

If can't work around the problem and I don't see a bios update in future, I think it's fair that declare lemon law and get a refund... In my opinion.

 

Haven't got it from sager. PCSpecialist, UK.

 

Its a free download. As long as it's the same clevo model np.

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I got my hand on RGB one. took they a long time to ship.

May be you could find it on ebay/aliexpress now?

 

I think you need more RGB

 

I'm quite tired of these high temps during summer. Old temps of 72C max under max load are nowhere to be found.

I already got kryonaut for the repaste. Which programs should I use to treat the temps? From the last time I did extensive testing I think I have heaven, witcher 3 and the cpu bench I don't remember the name (could be aida?). Anything else?

I'll report back my temps, my gpu hit 86C the other day with skyrim (!!!!!). It used to be 72C max... I missed the good old days.

Jesus man... Do you leave in a factory? How can you survive 70C ambient?

I'll post my idle temps for the other guys testing about it