*** Official Clevo P65xRS(-G), P65xRP6(-G) / Sager NP8153(-S), NP8152(-S) Owner's Lounge ***

Yh I have tried it

All it does is unlock some hidden options like:

-Turning off come cores

-Turn on Speed Shift from the bios(Thought throttlestop can do this)

-Disable/Enable hyperthreading and many more etc.

what it doesn't do is remove the EC throttling of the CPU which I thought it would do.

But all in all its an alright unlocked bios and probably like the only unlocked bios for P650RS-G

 

So i updated my BIOS to the latest official one - 1.05.07 and that did no resolve my issue.

Now i have another question.

How can i update my VBIOS?
I know it will not help - but it is good to have the latest one. Maybe with unlocked TDP

Anyway,
If any one is interested here is the latest BIOS directly from SAGER:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B20dLHnBkdfJZ0FpZDlsRlBwY1k/view?usp=sharing

Please upload it to some other places if needed as my share will not be there forever.
Of course i am not responsible for any issues with it.
I have successfully used it to update from 1.05.05 to 1.05.07.

Here are the instructions:

1. Please rename the attached file to 8153bv07ls1.7z.
   
2. Unzip the 8153bv07ls1.7z to the root directory of a FAT32 USB flash drive.
   
3. Run the wmeset on the USB drive in windows.
   
4. Computer will Restart.
   
5. When the screen turns black, keep tapping F7.
   
6. Select enter setup on the boot menu.
   
7. In the BIOS setup, pull down the Exit menu.
   
8. Press enter on “Launch EFI Shell from filesystem device”.
   
9. Type flashme at the command prompt.
   
10. Computer will power off when the process is finished.
    
11. Remove the AC adapter for 10 seconds.
    
12. Insert the AC power and turn on the computer.
    
13. Upon restarting, keep tapping F7.
    
14. Enter the BIOS setup.
    
15. Launch EFI shell from filesystem device.
    
16. Type eol at the command prompt.
    
17. The entire BIOS update process is completed.
    
18. Turn off the computer. Remove the USB flash drive.

Here what you will have:

 

Hi may i know is the unlocked bios will clean up the original boot logo? because warranty will void if boot logo missing. And is it possible that we can move back to the previous original bios.

I am using Bios 1.05.09.

I am curios, what is the stable nvidia driver for P650RP6-G, i got the low benchmark score while using the latest Nvidia driver.

Last time i used 382.33 Firestrike overall score : 9.3K-9.4K
Latest Driver 385.28 Firestrike overall score : 8.9K-9.1K

I am using Osibdian tools to keep my drivers updated. Anyone face the same like me?

My Vbios is 86.06.18.00.03, is it the stable vbios version and where to download the latest vbios for Clevo P650RP6-G?

 

Yh you can always re-flash original bios but you may have to back it up before flashing(instructions are in the bios forum).

And boot logo is style note or the bios boot logo that came with your laptop not sure

BTW if your laptop is the clevo P650RP6-G look for the bios for RP6-G NOT the RS-G.

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Always backup before a flash, always.

 

Is the Prema BIOS available for the P650RS-G? I recall that being a major selling point for buying this laptop from HIDevolution, but now that seems so long ago...

 

Is there a difference between the Clevo P650HS and the P650RS? I'm interested in buying the latter from pcspecialist UK, 15" Defiance III, which is apparently the P650RS, but all I can find are reviews for the P650HS.

 

7th vs 6th gen core series processors is the difference.

 

Looks like i have fixed my overheating and shutting down issue.

Just to remind and that everything is in one post:
I have noticed that under full load (or even more than 30%) my notebook is heavily throttling and eventually shuts down.
But CPU and GPU temperatures were OK (75 C under load).

I have repasted it and replaced thermal pads with:

• IC Diamond (not Kryonat as it may be not that effective if you have warped heat-sink)
• ARCTIC Thermal Pad (145 x 145 x 1.0 mm) - i think i have used only 15% of it (replaced all but 1 thing that is definitely thicker than 1 mm, also i suggest to try to buy 0.5 mm, 1 mm and 2 mm, but you should be ok with only 1 mm if you will use some of the old ones)

Now under full load it works OK and does not shutdown.

I have tried it with the worst case scenario:

• Ambient temperature is 31 C
• it is standing in the corner and sucks the same air as it is coming from it
• but i have elevated the rear bottom for 1 cm (as i usually do)

After 1 hour of Heaven benchmark i have:

• CPU - 75
• GPU - 87

Yes, it still throttles a little bit but that is because of Power Limit.


I hope it will stay this way for a long time.
If something goes wrong i will add a comment.

Note:

• CPU is undervolted for 150 mv
• GPU is undervolted to 0,825 mv

 

I initially posted this as a thread in the Which Laptop to Buy section, but I think it might be more relevant here:

So, I'm planning on getting the Clevo P650 from pcspecialist in the UK, with a 3k screen and a gtx 1070.

The question is, which CPU should I choose?

The 6820hq costs 37 pounds more than the 6700hq while the 7700 costs 240 pounds more than the 6700hq. Are these price differences worth it?

Also, would a 6700hq be enough to not bottleneck the performance of a gtx 1070? Other small factors that might influence my decision are impact on battery life and thermal efficiency of these CPUs. I think taking the skylake processors also means I can't use 2400mHz ram over the 2133mHz ones? I've heard that the improvement in games in minimal though. Thoughts?

Oh, and games will be the most intensive thing I use the laptop for. Everything else is just internet browsing and paper writing

Thanks

 

I have the 6820HK and it works well with 2400mhz RAM not sure about the 6700HQ though.

And about bottle-necking am not so sure. I game on a 1440p monitor so my guess is at that resolution the GPU plays more of a role. Though I still think the CPU still bottlenecks a little bit especially during games like battlefield 1 multiplayer.

Thermals is a bit tricky, my current temps are:

CPU = 88C
GPU = 88C

And also am not sure if the 3k screen is worth it over the 1080p because at that small of a pixel density it doesn't matter much I think. But I have still heard people who think its worth it.

Battery life isn't that good I get about 2 hours if am lucky though most times 1hr 45 mins, you can still get more through other tweaks but I would say that's a baseline.

 

Really happy to hear mate.

I wonder if its just the reduced temps that's causing it not to throttle again hmm or maybe a certain component wasn't getting enough coverage.

 

This is typical Intel trying to milk a really old architecture as long as it gets away with it. If you are not considering a LGA/PGA cpu, there is no point in paying those extras for a gain you're not likely to notice..

 

Sounds like a pad issue was causing the die not to make great contact.

 

Is there any difference between the 200W AC adapter and the 230W AC adapter for this laptop? I've decided to go for a combination of the gtx1070 and an intel 6820hk.

 

I think 200 W should be smaller in size, but it may not be enough to charge it at the same time when you play or use it heavily.
It may discharge even when plugged in and you use it heavily.

I know that Asus notebook with 1070 and 180 W was discharging when playing, but i am not sure about this notebook and 200 W.

And the other thing is that even if 200 W is enough Power Supply will get much hotter (my 230 W is already hot enough).

 

The 1070 and K series CPU are supposed to come with the 230W.

 

@Meaker@Sager or anyone else: is there any danger to the screen from heat if I close the lid and game on full load while connected to an external monitor?

 

Not to the screen, typically the machine will run cooler if you have the display open due to improved airflow. You can toggle the screen off with FN + F2 FYI.

 

Thanks for the quick response! Out of curiosity, how does the display lid have any effect on airflow?

 

The machine draws some air through the keyboard.

 

You should seriously undervolt. My CPU-temp got 13 degrees lower and GPU 3 degrees lower after undervolting CPU. I lowered core With 168 and cache With 196. Maybe I have a golden sample, but anyways, you could get temps down a lot. In general the GPU starts to bootleneck around 80C. Under stresstesting CPU powerusage went from 46W with no UV to 34 with UV.

 

It's a free upgrade to cooling if you don't mind spending some time to test it.

 

are you running it at default frequencies?

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I have a 6700hq and 1070. Default except UV. Witcher 3 is down from 86 cpu and 78 gpu to 73 cpu and 75 gpu afteer 1-2 hours at ultra settings + hairworks. UV did wonders for my setup. I used throttlestop with bootcommand so always loads win windows 10

 

oh, I have the Intel core i7 6820HK so maybe that's why there's such a difference and mine is clocked at 3.3ghz and the gtx1070 is overclocked to +177 on the core and +738 on the memory.

 

Still you should try undervolting, it will for sure reduce Your temps quite a bit!

 

Yes temps will usually be very different in a stock undervalued system and an overclock edition one

 

I'm getting one from pcspecialist, which offers a choice between the 230W and 200W power bricks. Anyone know the weights of either brick? Is it worth the extra weight for the 230W or is the 200W sufficient?

 

What is the latest BIOS and EC versions you guys recommend? I have the P650RS-G with the 6820HK CPU

Also, where should I get it from?

Thanks!

-Fred

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...s-owners-lounge.795090/page-581#post-10584366

 

A couple of questions:

Regarding a P650RSG ( 6820HK / 1070 )

1; it came with a 200w brick.. specs say that this model with these specs come with a 230w.. am i in trouble performancewise?

2; prema bios.. i searched long and far but no conclusive answer found.. is it available? if yes, where? if no, what bios is second best?

3; when people talk about bios upgrading they also talk about EC upgrading.. is that a separate thing? or does the EC get upgraded alongside the bios?

4; a couple of days ago i stumbled upon a topic regarding that someone had finally created a program to control the fan speeds/curves etc in a better way.. i forgot to bookmark it..anyone know what i am talking about?

 

Can you please test if you have this throttling issue outlined in this thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ue-intel-core-i7-6820hk.806323/#post-10554049

I have the have same laptop

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Hey everyone, weird issue here on the p650rs-g.

So in my CCC, my volume is not saved on things like a shutdown, restart, etc. But my brightness is.

Now that I think about it, I think it may have had to do with downloading the soundblaster xfi driver, but I really can't tell. I know it's *probably* not an issue with CCC because someone has told me that version 5.0001.1.07 worked fine for them. So I gave that an install, and that does not work either. So beforehand I was on v5.0001.1.27 but I recently upgraded to 37 and volume is not working as well.

So I'm guessing this another issue separately. If anyone can let me know if they had this problem or knew how to fix it, please let me know. It's not a major issue, but is pretty annoying!

Thanks

 

It won't help as throttling is firmware based. Same with newer 7820hk

 

hmm... 2 people answering in rapid succession with the exact laptop i have. but no answers, only more questions..

 

1)Read the section Energy Management. Eurocom Sky MX5 R3 (i7-7820HK, FHD, Clevo P650HS-G) Laptop Review. 7820hk vs. older 6820 shouldnt be very different.
2) I don't think it's available.

 

who is this addressed to, and if me, what part of my 4 questions

--edit-- the link you are referring to concerns a different type
Eurocom Sky MX5 R3 (i7-7820HK, FHD, Clevo P650HS-G)

vs our i7 6820HK p650RSG

 

Your Q
Regarding a P650RSG ( 6820HK / 1070 )

1; it came with a 200w brick.. specs say that this model with these specs come with a 230w.. am i in trouble performancewise?

2; prema bios.. i searched long and far but no conclusive answer found.. is it available?

 

Thanks for enlightening your answers!
As long as i am not benchmarking i will be fine.
too bad prema is not available, now what? just flash the latest official clevo bios as posted a few replys earlier?

 

You should ask @Donald@HIDevolution @Meaker@Sager as I think they know your model. New ain't always better.

 

thanks for tagging the pro's

 

sorry I replied with a question but just thought I could get a different answer to my query

I get your point was just wondering maybe his came with a different firmware/EC

 

If you read my previous posts. You can clearly see the same problem with the older Clevo model with 6820hk and now with the upgraded 7820hk. Both with unlocked cpu and 1070. Do you think this is a coincidence? Aka random?

 

Nope, it definitely isn't don't know why Clevo are doing this though. Things like this will make customers boycott their products. It will definitely make me bypass them next time or at least do thorough research into the owner's forum because that's where you find most these issues, not reviews.

 

Probably a stupid question, but figured I'd ask the owners: planning to get a P650 (from DreamMachines or Clevo Center) and would probably want a second (m2) ssd. Should I get one from the resellers' fairly limited selection, or is installation of an m2 drive simple in the chassis? Systems sees new drives ok?
Also, is this x820hk throttling new? I was planning to get a 7820hk+prema

 

I'm sure you will find brands with equal or worse products

 

Easy peasy, as long as you don't have butterfingers. And PLEASE do yourself a favour..those itty bitty screws do not need 50 ft/t / NM to tightens.. tighten Them with the fingers you hold your cup of tea with when you want to be fancy... Get it?

Between the thumb and the index/middlefinger

Just be "careful" ( vigilant ) that when you pop the cover back on you don't pinch of/ snag any wires
. Especcialy the two coming from/to your wireless card.. that's all really..

Oh, and no Wool sweaters/socks.. and touch a tap ( drinkwatertap) before you begin the installation.. some call it ill faith.. i call it ESD

 

Thanks, that reassured me. Common sense pretty much.
How much space/connectors is there for another drive? If I get a PCIe M2 and a larger HDD (HGST), will I have any left? The configurator at HIDEvo doesn't allow more than one PCIe m2 (only 2 sata), and the Travelstar is not a 7mm drive IIRC, so no 2.5 slot either?

 

i have to pass on aswering that question for you as for i am not 100 percent sure how the room is made up.