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    *** Official Clevo P65xRS(-G), P65xRP6(-G) / Sager NP8153(-S), NP8152(-S) Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by HardCore88, Aug 18, 2016.

  1. Timbabs123

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    Yh its safe I have a pc specialist laptop and flashed an XMG bios. But I would say check and make sure the bios you are flashing is at least the same version or an updated version just to be safe as a newbie flasher
     
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    Thanks! I got an EC update as well as a BIOS update, both of which are more recent than my current BIOS. As I understand I need to boot into DOS mode and flash the EC first then the BIOS. I guess that should all be fine?
     
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    Yh you flash the EC first.

    Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
     
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    Hey guys I have a couple small issues about my p65xRP . Firstly, the fan noise and idle temp on my laptop is pretty bad, the fans are constantly on when idle and while i'm browsing the net my cpu temp would constantly reach the high 50s and sometimes 60s and the fans are always spinning, I'm using the automatic setting in the control setting. I've tried undervolting my cpu and it did help the temps a bit but the fan noise is still there. My other issue is that when I pick up my laptop and tilt it I can hear a very slight rattling sound, as if there's a small piece of something in my laptop. I'm thinking it might be ball bearings or maybe loose fans since it sounds like it's coming from the fan part but I haven't taken it apart because I'm afraid I might do something wrong. Can anyone else confirm if the fans do use ball bearings or if this problem exists in other units? Thanks
     
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    The fans will start to make noise if your unit reaches 50C, it's the way they are set up, not much you can do about it. The only way to ensure a quiet laptop is to keep it under 50. I normally have 30-40C in both cpu and gpu if not gaming and it's dead silent. You could try to respaste, I need to do it every 3-4 months since the cooling performance of this clevo seems to be extremely sensible to fresh paste
     
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    Another thing you can try is to flash the latest XMG EC and Bios as I know they have their own specific fan table and I have found it not to be as loud as the clevo stock one. But take note as the fans don't spin as fast on the XMG BIos/EC so your temps might go up a bit(they tend to start spinning more when temps reach about 87C). Mine is alright as I have done LM cleaning and repaste(though I think the LM is a bit over-hyped as my temps didn't drop by that much(though my fan speed/noise levels DiD drop)
     
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    Has anyone flashed to the new XMG Bios? Any noticeable improvements?
     
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    That I don't know, but for the registry component left behind, that is the ANSP 3D Audio effect driver.

    It seems to be linked to the Audio driver installer, needed to detect and measure impedance shown on the CCC panel.

    See this project on Github: https://github.com/Unrud/init-headphone/blob/master/README.md
     
  9. Timbabs123

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    Has anyone here replaced thermal pads on their P650/670 RS-G and if you have could you please say what size you used or what size is optimal

    If anyone has the answer you are also welcome to say it

    The reason for this is because I repasted with liquid metal but my temps didnt really drop(maybe only by like 2-4C) and I still get temps of up to 93C during load though the CPU is OC to 3.8ghz.

    So was wondering maybe the thermal pads are causing the conductaunaut not to make good contact, or there is some lapping issue somewhere as I expect the conductonaut to do better. Any guidance advice is welcome. thanks.

    @Meaker@Sager
    @Mr. Fox
    @anyone that can help
     
  10. Mr. Fox

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    Yes, if the pads are too thick it can do that. Maybe try 0.5mm thinner pads.
     
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    I repasted with Thermal Grizxly Kryonaut and can really recommend it over stock clevo paste. My GPU-temp dropped with 3C and CPU with 5C. With undervolt of -164 core and -192 cache my tempdrop compared to stockpaste and no UV is -18C CPU and -6C GPU :) Did 30 mins og unigine heaven for testing :) It also takes a bit longer before max fanspeed kicks in and gpu-turbo goes higher :) Even with furmark (dont use it anymore), there is not CPU-throttling and only very slight GPU-throttling. A total of -24C combined on CPU/GPU with some UV and repaste impressed me!
     
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    Alright then thanks I will but another thing I just don't get get how clevo can make their stock pads so big that they hinder the cooling efficiency like really.

    Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
     
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    Yeah, that is a mystery. Maybe they are used to using IC Diamond as a "cork" to plug the gap for so many years.
     
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    Don't you think the 0.5m one maybe too small?
     
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    You have to measure the correct thickness with testing as I pointed out in the other thread.
     
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    They use thicker pads to reduce the likelihood of it not fitting quite right and a VRM blowing up.
     
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    What is the latest bios for RS?
     
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    Alright I just got the 1mm arctic thermal pads am going to be applying it now, I will be taking pictures of before and after
     
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    Just check all is fitting well and there is no overlapping.
     
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    Everything seems fine to me no overlapping that I can notice whatsoever but temps haven't really dropped Gpu only dropped by 3C and CPU 1C and this is after installing the new thermal pads
     
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    If you're really desperate you could drill s few well placed holes in the bottom panel cover. I did that with a MSI GE70 and it worked well. Extreme but effective.
     
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    So what exact results are you seeing now?
     
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    Well after the installation of the new 1mm thermal pads temps dropped by 3C and gpu by 1C. Though another thing to note is that Fan speed/noise seems slightly reduced.

    But even with this I thought temps were meant to drop more than this with LM.

    Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
     
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    If the fans have spun down a level then that would eat the gains.
     
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    Alright then I will try run the fan on max see and see what results I get then.
     
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    It's the best way to be sure of any improvements.
     
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    Yh just did a test with fans set to max and yh temps did drop by a few more degrees.

    CPU became 87C max and GPU 84C, thats about a 3 degree drop for CPU from auto fan and 4 for GPU from auto fan. Its okay isshh but I would have thought liquid metal would drop it more than that, as both components are only slightly OCed.
     
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    You do only see those small gains as the thermal interface is only a single part of the entire equation.
     
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    Has anyone installed some of the latest 240+ GB nvme ssd on this one, like samsung 960 evo, corsair mp500, kingston kc1000, toshiba rd400 or similar? How are the temps? Does it throttle often as OS/boot drive?
     
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    All the decent drives only throttle under artificial or exceptional loads. Not booting :)
     
  31. boggi

    boggi Notebook Enthusiast

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    Dear all,
    since now Intel released the INTEL-SA-00086 Detection Tool and my System with an i7 6700hq was classified as vulnerable; do you know where I can get the motherboard update for my Clevo 650-RSG?
     
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    hello there back after a long time, now that some deals are up, was thinking about getting an additional ramstick or pair depending on the deals, still running on the default single 8gb hynix ram the model shipped with ( sager np8151 )

    so my question is since u tend to find deals on a pair of ram usually , does it affect the performance if i plug that in alongside the one i already have (this leads to having 24gb ram if i get the two 8gb ddr4)

    also what about the rest of the specs like timings (as per hwinfo it was showing 17-17-17-39, while the model i was looking at had it listed as 16-16-16-39) are they gonna cause any trouble?

    this is all i could think of with the limited info i have
    also anything else to look at?

    also hopping to snag a m2ssd if something comes up ,,now using a 2.5inch ssd crammed together with the hdd
     
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    So long as the speed and timings match there is no issue running 3 sticks, otherwise it will not be optimal but quite frankly its unlikely to make a difference you could notice. The computer will use the paired sticks first and only when over 16GB will use the single channel 8GB.
     
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    Hey guys, today I opened up my laptop for the first time trying to repaste, but when I unscrewed the heatsink and cleaned off the thermal paste I noticed a very significant amount of discolouration in the shape of the original thermal paste. It looks like it has a green/bluish colour for the most of it with a dark purple outline. Is this a problem? Will it affect anything majorly? Thanks

    Edit: Also, how do I clean the dust from inside the GPU fan? Am I suppose to remove the 3 tiny screws?
     
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    The discoloration should not impact performance. I assume you had IC diamond?

    Inside the fan is easiest using an air duster and using a pencil or similar to stop the fan from spinning.
     
  36. nxtgencowboy

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    Does anyone have any other ideas for fixing Windows 10 stopping a 1060 6GB from starting up?

    I keep getting "Windows has stopped this device because it has reported problems. (Code 43)", Eluktronics P650RP6

    I've tried drivers, ddu, safe mode/drivers/ddu,etc.. I'm out of ideas.. It seems like my 1060 has quit functioning completely. I've even went as far as completely doing a clean install of Windows 10. The laptop is little less than a year old and I haven't really played that many games on it..
     
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    Take a look.
    Fix Windows has stopped this device because it has reported problems (code 43)

    Tested also with the previous Win 10 build with same results (before Creators Fall Update)?
     
  38. nxtgencowboy

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    Creators Fall Update has been installed. I do believe something is wrong the card itself since GPU-Z states a few things missing(which shouldn't be). [​IMG]

    I can try to install and earlier build of Windows and see if the issue happens. I was running Insider Previews prior with no issue, I went to boot the laptop and just black screen.. Reset the BIOS which enabled the intel card since I had Discrete only enabled. The other reason I think the card has an issue is I was able to teamview into the laptop when the screen was black.
     
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    Without drivers running properly GPU-Z will always do that. Do you have an external drive you can do a backup image to and then try a clean install?
     
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    This was a clean install. Drivers are installed. I can try an older version of Windows 10, prior to Fall Creators

    The part that stands out to me is if I enable only discrete graphics, I do not get any type of signal to the lcd display, the lcd display powers on but nothing is displayed, just black(external connection doesn't work either). So I FN+D/Power and reset nvram which enables Hybrid graphics.. That was the only way I can get any time of visuals on the LCD display.

    Windows 10 Pro
    V. 1709
    OS Build 16299.64
    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    Then yes, likely a dead GPU.
     
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    I reached out to Eluktronics but they are closed on the weekends. I have a feeling I'm literally like 5 days over 1 year from when I bought it... Waiting to see

    **Update -- Apparently my warranty is up by a week... Eluktronics weekend support mentioned that I'd have to cover any RMA repairs..

    Is there a newer bios besides 1.05.07TEI1 for the P650RP6? (ec is 1.05.04)
    Nevermind.. Was able to flash a newer version.

    No difference... I'm really hoping Eluktronics will help me out a little bit here; otherwise I have a 1300.00 non gaming laptop anymore.. I'd have to replace the 1060 somehow.
     
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    Your insurance might cover it?
     
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    That sucks that you were just out of warranty :(
     
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    Apparently by 5-7 days depending on when I took delivery.. Really hoping they'll help me out though.
     
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    Hey guys, I recently started having an issue on my NP8153 laptop and was wondering if anyone can help. So I usually use my laptop at work with a monitor connected to my laptop via hdmi and a keyboard and mouse via usb. For some reason when I reboot my laptop or use it the next day, the initial power up my laptop is always blank,(monitor says no device connected) and my keyboard doesn't work. I have to manually press the power off button to turn it off and then restart it again for it to work. Also whenever I login successfully my screen sometimes turn blank for a few seconds and then works normally. Does anyone know what might be the problem?
     
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    Hello! I have a problem with my Clevo P650RS-G. Lately, without me doing something important that I remember about, the laptop takes too much time to boot. Before it used to be ready to use in about 10 seconds, now, it stays on the StyleNote screen (the BIOS screen I think) about 1 minute, which is a lot... I have updated the bios and ec to the latest versions, but that did not help. There is nothing external connected to the laptop, only the charger (and it takes a lot of time without it too, so it doesn't affect it). Has anyone have any idea what may be the problem?
     
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    Have you checked your boot order? Tried booting to a USB stick with the HDD removed?
     
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    Hi Guys,

    I've been happily using my P650-RSG for over a year now, but I'm thinking about upgrading to an NVME ssd.
    Currently I have a 1TB sata ssd in the M2 slot, plus a 512gb 2.5" sata ssd and a 250gb 2.5" sata ssd (took them from my old desktop which is now retired).
    My plan is to remove the 250gb disk, and take the 1tb M2 drive out, fit it into an M2 to sata converter and fit it in the 2.5" bay.
    I will then fit, probably, a 250 gb NVME disk. I'm leaning toward a Samsung SM961 or a Samsung 960 EVO.

    What I need help with is this :

    Does the P650-RSG definitely support these NVME disks at full speed? (pci express x4 I think?)
    Can I boot from this NVME disk?
    Can I run the NVME disk as well as the SATA disks without causing issues?

    I tried going through the manual, but it's not very clear, and talks about numerous configurations of the laptop, without specifying which configurations apply to each laptop type.

    My bios version is 1.05.07a
    my ec version is 1.05.05
    my laptop has 2x 2.5" sata slots, and 1x 2280 M2 slot, which I believe is the NVME supporting model?
     
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    Yes full speed
    Yes you can boot
    Yes as you have described you can use the 2.5" bays no problem along side an NVME SSD.
     
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