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No need to play "silent" sound. I just start playing to initialize sound, then pause and keep it paused, I guess that when foobar is in background it keeps sound system busy and does not let it go to "sleep".

The easiest way to check this issue:
1. Log into the system, nothing should be running
2. Wait 15 seconds
3. Try adjusting volume by dragging the volume controller in the taskbar - you will notice that when you first adjust volume and release the controller - there will be a delay of the sound and it will be faded, then if you will try it one more time (after a few seconds) it will be OK.
4. Now wait another 15 seconds - sound will go to sleep again and Step 3 will be reproducible again.

 

Exactly what i have..

 

By silent sound I mean something that keeps the audio device open, I know what to do

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i also had the sound fade problem after uninstalling realtek driver and switching to windows hd sound driver.

i had realtek and creative drivers installed but i also uninstalled them.

for realtek drivers:
i uninstalled it normally through windows software/app uninstallation.

for creative drivers i had problems:

uninstalling through windows software/app uninstallation didn't work.
it gave me an error that the uninstaller couldn't be found or started. but it said ....dll couldn't be found.
so i uninstalled with the help of revo uninstaller.

the fade problem seems to be solved, after i used DisplayDriverUninstaller to uninstall grapics drivers completely.
the new version of DDU has a WIP audio driver uninstallation too.
so i uninstalled realtek and creative drivers with DDU in safe mode of windows.

after that the fade problem disappeared.
it seems like there were files/registry entries left in windows even after uninstallation, which caused the problem.

 

I tried it before and i tried it one more time now.
Yes, it fixes the issue... but then Windows will update the driver by itself and the issue will appear again.
Probably you can try to force Windows not to autoupdate Audio Driver (so it will use a built-in one) - but that is not the best solution as i want drivers that are up to date.

 

I quit trying fixing realtek drivers and now am using only "high definition audio device" drivers. To permanently not use realtek driver just do:
1- right click sound icon
2- troubleshoot problems (or something similar, my computer is not in english)
3- click next
4 - no, do not open audio improvements
5 - play test sound (it will play a sound)
6 - click i didnt hear anyhting
7 - reinstall drivers using windows high definition audio device
8 - it will play a sound again
9 - click ok
10- done

If the computer asks for restart, dont until the process is complete.
Now i have no fade-in sound, no automatic reinstall of realtek drivers BUT after I close the lid with phones plugged in, when i open it, no sound from phones, have to restart computer..

I wonder if @John@OBSIDIAN-PC can implement his realtek fix for these drivers

 

Updated to BIOs 1.05.07 and now it seems flexicharger works at last

 

I have BIOS 1.05.07 and current EC. I think, Flexicharger does not work proper with
Sager NP8152 / P650RP6-G.

But no problem. i dont use the machine without power supply.

 

What happens exactly for you?

 

Hi,

in the BIOS setting max. 80% charge, but sometimes still 100% charge. But no real problem for me.

 

Windows will still show the full charge from what I remember as it learns the lower charge level.

 

AIDA shows the following
(above)

 

Sometimes Windows reports full charge after I updated bios, but when I unplug ang plugin power-supply then it shows true charge Level. Before bios-update flexicharger worked fine for a few hours or a couple of days before it suddenly stopped working and battery always charged to 100%.

 

another thing guys, have been testing the screen around, have the 25.21.14.1681 nvidia drivers and am using discrete mode. When i test for full or limited dynamic range I always conclude my screen is limited ranged, even when "full" is selected on nvidia control panel (under "video/first option/advanced/complete)
does anyone else has this issue?
Can someone test it ? just open the link and see if you can see a big "3" in the lower right. I dont (thus indicating it is running on limited range and crushing blacks)

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2480514&d=1541847478

 

I checked your picture.
At first I thought that something is wrong as it looked like a completely black picture. Then i was able to see "3" in the lower right of the screen on my laptop (4K screen of 650-RS) - that is the only thing i can see. Then i looked it on my external monitor - and i can see a lot more - the picture is not just black - it has a lot of other stuff in different colors all over it. I am using discrete mode and latest 416.81 drivers.

 

Im also using discrete mode and latest 416.81 drivers. But in my case I only get full black picture, i think my screen is set to limited dynamic range instead of full, even when i change it on nvidia control panel. I have the standard screen though. (p650-rp6-g)

 

Try to look from an angle in a dark room and set the brightness to 100%.
It may be difficult to see it - but i can see it (barely).

 

Dark room, lights off, max brightness, keyboard led off. Cant see it. It might be because of different screens

 

Laptop screens wont pass HDR 1000 specs that's for sure.

 

And this explains why the headphone jack cannot be activated on Linux using the known model-specific quirks for HD Audio, as documented here: https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v4.19.10/source/Documentation/sound/hd-audio/models.rst

That circuitry is wired differently. Linux, to date, has no support for this codec configuration.

 

That's the issue generally with Linux sadly.

 

I have been experimenting with undervolting in afterburner for a few days now. It seem like a flat curve on 1760MHz and 800mv-> reduced temp with about 5C, fan is less noisy and performance is around 85-90% of usual in test-programs. After running for long periods of time performance is above 90% since temp reduced performance on default clocks. Is there any dangers of running this setup long term? I`m making the GPU run 250MHz faster at 800mv and never go past 1760MHz. According to GPU-Z voltage never goes higher than 800mv. With default curve it usually does go to 1070mv max.

 

Hi guys, I wonder if someone could help before I contact tech. at Schenker/MySN. A while ago I started to get these weird lines on my monitor. I can see them pretty clearly on anything but pure 100% black bg (I can barelly see them then) and 100% white and slightly offwhite. When I look closer I can see the brighter parts like you can see on the edges flicker a bit...as the screen is pretty much one of the most important part of the laptop for my work, this is pretty discouraging. Laptop is not even 1.5 years old, 99% of the time stationary. It's the IGZO 4k model.

Edit: Just for clarification, when I have my external monitor plugged in, nothing like that appears on the external monitor.

 

After playing Dishonored 2 for 2 hours with g-sync and fps locked at 59 temps with 1760MHz@800mv maxed out at 61C compared with the usual 76C I get when not changing freq/volt-curve in aftwrburner Fans dont reach their highest level anymore either

 

I noticed that some games under full GPU load will keep the maximum GPU frequency - and some will decrease it to 1600 -1500 no matter how you configured the curve. For me the curve is something like flattening on 850 mV / 1771 MHz.

The other thing is that CPU will also down-clock to ~3 GHz.

You can also try new Afterburner - now it support automatic OC - but for me the end result is the same in games, The biggest issue when overclocking laptop GPU is Power Limit. No matter how you set it up - under heavy load it will down-clock due to Power Limits. If you can configure your Power Limits - overclocking now makes more sense - but now you will definitely have some overheating issues.

 

How are the temps in games where MHz drops to 15-1600? Do you use fps-lock? I use g-sync and 60 fps lock all the time. In many games the clocks don`t go near that high. In Starcraft 2 clocks sits around 1000MHz in order to maintain 60 fps. When I unlock fps and to benchmarks I get 1750MHz stable all the time and I have never seen temps rise above 65C. As for CPU I undervolt and it`s really rare that the temp climbes above 70C which is nowhere near throttling so the 3.5GHz single\3.1GHz all core turbo is active all the time.

 

Yes, i also use FPS lock. I used to play on a build-in screen with G-sync. Now i play on an external Monitor without G-Sync - but i still lock FPS to 60. Usually i configure my games to use 80-95% of my GPU. Sometimes games can use 100% GPU for a long time - and then GPU down-clocks to ~1600. The temperatures are not that good now for me because i just received it from RMA where they re-pasted it after the fix. Now CPU can go up to 90-100 and GPU up to 90. I will re-paste it later, just don't want to do it now.

 

You still get 90C on GPU with flattening curve aswell? It sounds like you have massive thermal throttling and should repaste asap Thermal Grizzly kryonaut is really good. It dropped CPU-temp 5C and GPU-temp 3C, but my stock paste was okay. Undervolting with throttlestop dropped CPU-temp during load over 10C more, and undervolting GPU to 800mv at 1750MHz got that temp down with 13C. Before any repaste, UV of GPU and CPU temp in demanding games usually gave me a CPU-temp of 85-90C and a GPU-temp of 75-80C. I games I rarely get CPU above 70C and GPU has not been above 62C after UV.

 

Hi all, i am the P650RP6-G user here, i noted there is a new BIOS update V1.05.10, is there anyone using it now? My vendor suggest not to update, because it is unstable, but couldn't mention it clearly and no release note also. If anyone using the latest BIOS, appreciate to share with me your experience.

 

Is your system experiencing an issue?

 

Age old rule..."Don't fix it if it ain't broke." If you are not experiencing any issues with your laptop, leave it alone

 

Because i find that the performance reduce about 5-10% after update the bios from 1.05.05 to 1.05.09 and with latest windows 10 1809, and this version not sure whether got "Update Intel micro code." i did some research it will help improve the performance. Just to double confirm is it necessary?

 

What CPU test are you doing? Was it a mixture of both that caused the performance loss?

 

My P650RS nvidia GTX1070 no longer works when powered with AC charger, but works on battery power. When it fails I get STOPCODE: VIDEO_TDR_FAILURE nvlddmkm.sys failure. I removed heat sink and repasted GPU and CPU. GPU paste was dry, still not working after doing it. AC adapter measures correct voltage and takes about same time to recharge a flat battery to full, so I think AC adapter is OK. Anyone else have similar fault? When on battery nvidia does not seem to be operating at full specs, the integrated HD530 , intel 11fps vs nvidia 23 fps using msi furmarks 1080p

 

2d loads, 3d? Please give more detail on when it happens.

 

Has anybody here had issues with the P65 series going Code43 on new 400 series drivers?

I've RMA'd my machine for a dead GPU (code43) and now have a new perplexing Code43 problem after a motherboard swap.

• Clean installed to Windows 10 Pro Build 1809
• Stock drivers (382.05) works
• 388.75 works
• 399.24 Code 43
• and all 400 series appears to Code 43

The thing that blows my mind, is the 400 series driver DID work before. Any ideas?

 

With my P650RP6-G no problems with the driver:
Official 417.35 Game Ready WHQL.

 

Is it best to install latest drivers manufacturer or latest clevo drivers or win 10 drivers?

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Latest Nvidia set usually.

 

I was thinking the same. I don't think we need to install chipset drivers etc.. do we?

I run the Intel software detector thing and it discovered only Intel graphics and wifi. Maybe this is telling us something or maybe there telling us to use the manufacturers drivers?

When running the intel chipset driver it changes the name of something to intel 100 series.

But i think with the default win drivers the notebook was super quiet to the point that the fans sounded like they stopped. With the intel chipset there is always a very low fan spinning on idle

Also should we update the sata ahci with intel? Seem to display a more proper name after installation but maybe it's not needed either?

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Hmm, I forgot to mention, the new board that was put in is a 6820hk+1060 board. Whereas my previous board was a 6700HQ.

I've done some more testing and the only thing I can think of is that Nvidia screwed up some VM detection code in the driver when interacting with the 6820HK. AFAIK very few 6820HKs made it into peoples hands.
The issues are extremely similar to what happens when the Nvidia driver detects that it's running in a VM (Code43, GPU is stuck in D3 power mode).

On Monday I'll be able to test the theory, by actually setting up a Linux VM, pass the GPU through and pass through the flags which specifically avoid triggering the Nvidia VM detection code.

 

Usually the rest can be done from the base set from your reseller.

 

I had similar issue several months ago.
You can find my posts here.
I am not sure that you have the same issue but mine had similar symptoms.

I had to RMA it.
It was a simple fix.
Something was was wrong with Power Delivery Chip.

 

HI

seems that i've similar issue or symptoms but without any visible error.
I ask if someone have something like this

i7 6700 and 1060 gtx

i use a crucial mx300 m.2 and,, from about two months, the system does three things:

- the system boot at black screen and i need to force the reboot
- the system reboots several times before reach the logon screen (fixed, cave and beach)
- the system reach immediatly the login screen (presentation image) , i login on it and after 20 seconds reboot automatically, without error, at logon screen (with fixed image of windows with cave and beach - this https://docs.microsoft.com/it-it/windows/configuration/images/lockscreen.png)

it's difficult to explain this, but the only thing that i see in these days of various tests, is that all of this problems happened with the power supply connected.

it i boot the pc without power supply the pc hans't any problem and boot at the right login screen, and doesn't reboot also after it
if i boot without power supply connected and after the login i connect immediatly the power supply , the system reboot.
If i boot without power supply connected and i connect it ater some minutes (after all the process starts), i haven't any problem.

my vendor tolds me that the problem is problably the ssd m.2, but i think there is something else

i don't understand if it's a video card power problem
if it's a m.2 MB slot problem, maybe with power
or it's only a m.2 ssd problem

the only thing i can tell is that i've this pc from the march 2016 and with normal ssd i haven't any tipe of problem.
I can install windows on a normal SSD to check if the problem persist, if not it's not a video card problem , but i can't undesrtand if it's a m.2 problem or a motherboard problem.

sorry for the WOT.

someone have same experience?

 

My issue started like this.
Then it got worse.
Eventually I had to RMA it to fix it.

You can try to avoid the issue by disabling your Dedicated GPU (1070 or 1060 in Device Manager).
This way you will be able to use your laptop without reboots - but you will not be able to use your dedicated GPU .

My advice - RMA it as fast as possible.
If you are out of warranty or do not want to do it - find local repair shop - tell them the symptoms and pray that they are good in fixing things.
In my case the issue was with Power Delivery Chip.

In my RMA it was: IC chip U23 (onboard IC chip)

 

oh good to know

i'm in warranty atm but near to the end.
i need to convince the reseller that is not the ssd.

thank for the info anyway

 

If uninstalling the graphics driver has an impact then it's the GPU.

 

Thanks for info about U23 chip fault causing reboot issues and GPU.
Here is service manual for P650RS.

http://s472165864.onlinehome.fr/anyware/manuels/P65xRS_ESM.pdf

PU23 is for DDR4 1.2V page B-62 of the manual.

I still trying to fix my issue with nvidia GPU crashing when AC charger is used. Think I check PU25 smart battery charger on page B-66.

My laptop out of warranty so can't RMA it. Need to fix it myself. If I can't it now a very expensive netbook.

Thanks again for info assumed it was GPU fault , so will look into repair it.

 

Hey guys, I wonder if I can add the LTE modem to my 8153? I reached out to Sager they said their boards do not have capability to add LTE (?), but I checked the SIM card slot and there is a slot soldered to the motherboard. I can buy the LTE M.2 Modem from aliexpress as well as the antenna (I was able to track down the part number). Do you think it would work?

 

You can try but the official answer is always no on this since it wont have been shipped from clevo with the option so we have no idea what is on the board or not.