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Already tested with multiple RAM and also bought a brand new dual kit (HyperX 2400 2x8gb).
This whole thing cant be that fragile....seriously come on! if i upgrade the drivers from 2016 to today drivers the whole system instable? its cant be right....
Its a Gtx 1070 / i7-6700hq machine FOR GAMING. Whats the purpose of the whole thing if i cant update my drivers because it cause system instability BUT i cannot play with so outdated drivers?

 

You may have an inherent flaw in the CPU igp that the newer drivers bring out due to tweaks for performance.

 

Well just the same happens when im in Discrete mode (nvidia).

 

I misread and thought you said it did not. Might want to send it in to the reseller. Could be an issue with the power circuitry.

 

After almost 2 weeks of testing the hyperx impact 2666cl15 was not even stable at 420 tRFC. Random restarts. I put back my samsung 2133cl15/17/17/35 and it booted with no prob at 2666cl15 and I was able to lower tRFC to 300 without issues. The microchip in the hyperx is garbage compared with the samsung-ram. I went back to running 2400cl14-15-15-36 at 270 tRFC. Performance is better by a few percents in almost everything, but 16gb would be nice.

 

It can be luck of the draw too.

 

@Meaker@Sager Do you know what the chances are of incompatible RAM screwing up the system in high end games?

I previously had a 2666 speed RAM (2x8GB sticks) and games would constantly crash when gaming. Also using the 8620hk CPU.

Off a thread I have posted on NBR, there was a post stating that only 2133 Mhz was compatible with this CPU. And that once they swapped it, there problems were fixed.

I have now input the 2133 Mhz RAM and I have experienced so far no more screen tearing(which I previously had) and no crashes(thus far).

So I guess my question is, were there many 2666 RAM units sold along with this notebook? Cause, if the theory is correct, then hopefully others will know as well in case their unit was acting up.

 

Unlikely at that speed but could be bad ram?

 

@Adobo9 The RAM should end up running stable at what the IMC dictates, even if the memory is rated for faster speeds. It does seem more likely that you ended up with bad RAM.

 

Mobile systems tend to (unless you got some freak chip) cope with 2666mhz just fine.

 

Thanks, it may seem like that...

I have input the new RAM, and I've ran some tests with good results.

1) no more screen tearing when playing games (this used to happen with my old RAM installed)
2) I have not had any crashes(yet).

If it was RAM the whole time, that'd be very unfortunate... But I suppose sh*t happens.

 

1) Very odd, ram usually has no impact on this. G-sync now enabled?
2) Always good.

 

Yesterday my p650rp6 graphics card seams to have died (1060). After a reboot (because the laptop display stayed Grey again (backlight on, no picture, old problem for more than a year, open and close mostly did the trick) I rebooted... Splash screen showed, dots rotated.. Next screen (black before windows login) showed some white dots on the bottom, jumping crazy.. Windows login shows for 10 seconds, I can type my password. Than it freezes the screen. Laptop is working in the background but screen is frozen. Updated the Nvidia drivers to 430.86 a week ago. After the freeze problem I went into safe mode, everything works.. New drivers didn't do the trick. A normal driver update did the same failure, a clean update after ddu let's the notebook freeze on driver update directly. Bios reset didn't work, hardreset after unplugging the battery didn't too. Seems like the graphics card died and I have expansive trash now. Any ideas? Any hope a professional repair could be economically reasonable in a range of 300euros? I'm rly angry. Most expansive notebook I had, died fastest of all after 3 years.. So sad. Hope you guys have any ideas

 

If it's the Nvidia chip that has died then a repair would involve a BGA replacement of the chip.

 

This means replacing the whole motherboard platine with processor and graphic chip and video ram for about.. 600euros? Or do they just replace the graphic chip? Can you say what this would cost?

 

.. And could the new nvdia driver be involved? I've red about problems here.

 

The GPU and CPU are soldered so the obvious answer is replace the board that has those chips on it. A more specialised repair shop could replace the chip for most likely less.

Cost is going to depend on where you are and who you ask.

 

Thank you. Thought so. Germany. Any tips?

 

Look around for electronic repair shops and see what they say.

 

can anyone help me with a usb problem i'm having? all the ports are suppose to be usb 3 or usb 3.1 but when i try to transfer files from my external NVME hard drive i can only get 400 mb/s or 40 mb/s out of the ports. the external drive transfer at 10 gb/s but it doesn't even comes close to that

 

What caddy are you using?

 

USB 3.1 To M.2 NVMe

 

I'd be suspicious of that caddy.

 

could you recommend one? when i upgrade me system i still want to take advantage of the NVME

 

I dont think the ports are fast enough for the speed greater than SATA. So get a nice large sata drive.

 

i thought the 2 usb c ports were 3.1 gen 2. aren't those up to 10 gbps?

 

But you said your dock was usb 3.1 not gen 2?

 

sry. it's gen 2 10 gbps

 

Do you have a link to the one you are using?

 

https://www.amazon.com/Enclosure-Ty...hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4584070139700249&psc=1

 

Which cable are you using?

 

usb c to usb c cable to the usb c port

 

What drive is in the caddy and what device are you writing to and from?

 

it's a 1 tb nvme hard drive. i'm writing from my laptop to the external drive

 

What drive is in your laptop?

 

256 gb nvme hard drive

 

Which one? Have you tried benchmarking it?

 

samsung 960 evo. the external is adata xpg sx8200 pro

 

yes. everything is fine with the internal drive. the external is brand new. the internal drive is actual Samsung 950 evo

 

950 evo?

 

sry. samsung 950 pro 256 gb

 

Have you used the likes of crystal disk to benchmark each drive separate of anything else?

 

no. i only benchmarked my internal drive and my external drive.

 

Test each one to make sure where the issue is.

 

i tested my internal drive the sequential is 1600 mb read and 900 mb write which seems about what's advertised. the external reads different depending on the USB port i connect it too. it could be 40 mb connecting to 1 USB A port or 400 mb connecting to different USB A port. it could be 700 mb connecting to the USB C port. i can't get it to 10 gbps which should be 1.2 gb no matter which port i connect it to

 

With overheads 700mb ish per sec is about right.

 

i noticed when looking for usb c to usb c cables that there's alot of specs that could be passed over. like when i read into it alot say 480 mbits or 5 gbps. true 10 gbps are some you have to really have to research to get. i have all the right wires so i shouldn't be having these problems.

i have usb c to usb A 5 gbps cable that came with the enclosure that i've been testing the usb a ports with. the ports are all suppose to be usb 3.1 gen 1. i only get close to 5 gbps transfer speed from 1 port. all the other usb a ports transfer at 40-60 mb

 

so you think everything is working fine? i'm still only getting 400 mb or less transfer speed

 

From the type a slots that's normal, on the type c your 700mb sounds about right.

 

Well, my P650RS-G has hit 3 years and so far (knock on wood) is running really well.

One thing I really wanted since day 1 was the "Prema BIOS" and I just had @Zoltan@HIDevolution install it. This may not have been the wisest thing in the world ("if it ain't broke don't fix it" applies 10x for a BIOS), but hey I insisted on taking the risk. Anyway, my old P650RS-G has an uber BIOS now that I can play around with a bit (at my own risk of course...).

This laptop was an excellent buy for me. If I can get 2 more years out of it I'll be thrilled!

-Fred