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What can you do using PremaBios? Can you increase Power Limit for GPU?

 

This is a really good question - and I will leave up to other more knowledgeable folks to answer in detail. The one thing I think might be true is that the Prema BIOS unlocks a bunch of things you probably don't want to mess with on this laptop simply because the CPU/GPU probably can't handle certain settings as well as their desktop counterparts. The BIOS I got I think is the same one used on the higher end HIDevolution EVOC/CLEVO models with desktop CPUs (and GPUs...) so I intend to proceed with a huge dose of caution.

Still, I'm a gear head and I love the idea of everything being unlocked even if it means I can fry my laptop to a cinder lol. Installing the Prema BIOS was really just fulfilling the initial expectation that this HIDevolution laptop would have the Prema BIOS (and that was a selling point after all even if it doesn't make complete sense in retrospect).

Honesty, the BIOS I had before I believe unlocked pretty much everything you would want to tweak on this laptop. My gut feeling is that the Prema BIOS unlocks more giving you more rope to hang yourself, but I could be wrong. At some point I will have to actually understand a bit what is there and what I can safely mess with.

 

Just go slow with any tweaking.

 

Now that is some solid advice! Yes, I will definitely proceed with caution. I love this laptop, but the components can only do so much!

 

Are you trying to push it or reach a new 24/7 state?

 

I'm pretty risk averse - so I would be happy with a good but stable 24/7 state.

 

What are set to at the moment?

 

Let me get back to you on that. I haven't changed anything since the Prema BIOS was installed so I assume I am getting his defaults. I have noticed that my fans are behaving much better (last random blasting) but I'm not sure what the change might have been.

 

That can be a change to the hysteresis value to make it smoother.

 

Hi guys, I followed the topic since the beginning (2016), when I decided to buy this amazing laptop.
Now, three year latter, I couldn't follow the hole topic (sorry if I am been stupid here).
But I have a question. My laptop just died. I mean, I can't get video anymore. The laptop starts, the lights get on (keyboard and LEDs incators of battery, and power on). But the laptop don't initialize. I can't even get to boot menu, or bios setup. The laptop starts, the lights gets on, and after 45 seconds, shutdown and try to start again. It keeps in this loop and don't initialize.
Is it sign that the laptop is dead, and a motherboard replacement is necessary?
Have anyone had this issue?
Thanks in advance.

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Have you taken out all but one ram stick (ie no wifi, no hdd etc)?

 

What you mean? Tried to get it on without any device connected? No. Is the laptop able to boot to bios without ssd?

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Yes, all computers can bios boot without storage. All you need is a stick of ram.

 

I should have tried this forum before sending my laptop to RMA. It's under analisys today. When they complete the analisys I will be back here to share.

Thanks for the hint.

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Well fingers crossed it's something simple.

 

Hi guys, just a feedback. RMA just get back to me. They said they cleaned the memos connectors (I have done that before sending the laptop to then) and they reset the bios. And the problem was solved.
Is it possible? Just a bios reset solved the problem? How to proceed to reset the bios? Anyone knows?

Thanks. Now I have I'll have a laptop for more three years at least.

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Memos?

 

Memory stick (the ram)

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Hello, I've owned a p650rs for close to 3 years now, and the machine has been relatively solid for the time period. Though, recently I've been having issues with the laptop, the most prominent ones being unable to install the Windows 1903 update, and Nvidia driver updates failing to install even after uninstalling the older ones with DDU. Even utilizing the windows repair utilities such as dism and sfc failed to fix the problem, so I suspected that the current Windows installation had somehow gotten corrupted.

I did a fresh install of Windows while taking care to prevent the OS from installing generic drivers from windows update, and doing a restart whenever necessary after installing the oem ones. Sometime after installing/updating the drivers and updating Windows, the system started booting erratically with the boot logo and the loading animation stretching out and flickering across the screen. I was able to reach the login screen and had control of my touchpad, but only for a few seconds and then entire system just freezes.

This behavior continued to happen even after attempting to reinstall windows from scratch forgoing some of the less important drivers, such as the Intel rapid storage one.

In order to rule out the possibility of a bios issue I decided to update it with the provided files through here https://download.schenker-tech.de/package/xmg-p507/

For context I've previously had the 1.05.08 bios and the 1.05.05TR ec from XMG and I double checked the version numbers and the video card information listed in the newer link since the files from www.mysyn.de are no longer accessible.

The ec flashed without any issues, but after successfully flashing the bios the laptop then refused to post even after doing the fn + d + power button press routine to clear the cmos.

This was when I realized that the bios I flashed was likely from a newer model that comes with the i7 7700HQ processor instead of the 6700HQ.

The keyboard is still functional and the fans respond to the fn + 1 press. The light indicator for the harddisk flashes when attempting to boot, but only for a short while, and the usb ports still appear to be functional. The screen does power on when booting, but is completely black, so any other feedback I can get from the machine is extremely limited.

I've tried reading up on a concept utilizing a bios flash bind, but information as to how to attempt this with through usb is difficult to find.

Is there any procedure that can be done to restore function to the display and to perhaps undo this terrible mistake I've made. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

 

Do I need thermal pads to do the whole heatsink if I want to just repaste the CPU for my p670rs-g? And I'm guessing the p670rs is using the same heatsink as the p650rs?

 

You might need a programmer to flash the bios chip directly.

 

Yes a manual flasher of the BIOS should recover it, the ECU is the non recoverable part.

 

My bios says it can down volt into negative -500 for vcore but I'm not able to actually type in a negative value?

 

You need to change the offset to negative,
Offset prefix to [-]

 

I can use the plus / minus to scroll through postive values but can't go below 0

 

You type in the value and then an unlocked bios can set that value to positive or negative.

 

Didn't know there was locked and unlocked bios.

 

XTU will be able to set a negative value too.

 

For how long? HP has already locked out voltage control.

Black List
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ocked-out-due-latest-win-update-and-o.831450/

 

I don't get the sense Clevo is out to lock out undervolting.

 

Can you disable the SGX safety feature in all Clevo notebooks?

 

Not all of them, it does not make sense on them all due to cost and board complexity.

 

Voltage adjustment will be removed if they don’t add in SGX features with disable/enable switch. This if SGX is supported/enabled for the models. Either via new Intel micrcode from Win Update or with new bios.

 

Beg your pardon, I read that as switchable graphics feature. Not sure on the feature in question.

 

https://blogs.intel.com/technology/2019/12/ipas-security-advisories-for-december-2019/#gs.nxacgr

 

Is xtu safe I read it used to stuff up the fan profile? I'm using throttlestop ATM changing the multipler on a single core doesn't seem to work. Seems to be all cores or nothing

 

@Meaker@Sager

So, I have noticed my P650HP6-G has its G-sync option missing after a screen replacement and a windows reinstall.

Is this screen installed by the retailer legit?

 

To retain G-sync a very specific panel has to be used, so while the display in this case works it is not the one required to have G-sync.

 

Could it not be driver issues? Can’t believe an actual clevo retailer (PCSpecialist UK) would screw me over like that.

 

Did a quick check on it and the original order I made, and it seems the screen they offered wasn’t the Phillips with the G-Sync. Not as scummy, but they should have told me.

 

Yeah, I checked the panel against known g-sync ones and it's not supported.

 

Hi all,
My NP8153-S from XoticPC is about 3.5 years old now, and experiencing major crashing issues on startup.

It is crashing something like half-a-dozen times in a row on every startup from the cold, before finally stabilizing and doing just fine from there on. Manual restarts or quick shutdown/startups are normal. It started something like a year ago with occasionally crashing upon launch of Civ 6 (game I play the most by far) or similar quality games, then has progressively deteriorated to where it is now.

I've done a fresh Windows install, made sure all the drivers are up to date, ran OCCT, CrystalDisk, GSmartControl, windows repair tool on crash startup screen which doesn't come up with anything, I can't find the smoking gun. (Though GSmartControl does show a few prefailure attributes)

Any thoughts to the cause? At first I thought it was the graphics card (GF1070), but now I'm suspecting it is the hard drive, or secondary guess maybe the motherboard/BIOS needs flashing. Last week Steam curiously had to do a partial reinstall of Civ6, which really changed my opinion.

Specs below, thanks!

Sager NP8153-S (Clevo P650RS)
500GB Samsung 850 EVO M.2 SSD
Intel Core i7-6700HQ @ 2.60Ghz
GTX 1070
W-10 64bit
BIOS v. 1.05.03LS2

 

The first suspect would be ram, try running a single stick with each stick to see if the problem persists.

 

Just tried, and no luck.

It didn’t seem to restart quite as many times each attempt, but each stick still had multiple.

 

Reseat everything you can see easier access to. It could be a solder joint that's only making contact when warm.

Where is the machine kept?

 

OK I’ll take a look tonight.

In my living room of a prototypical apartment.

 

I looked last night finally, and I wasn't able to find anything obvious. I can't say I'm experienced at inspecting solders though, to be honest.

 

An update: unfortunately the laptop is now a brick. After putting it back together it would not turn on.

My friend also took a look and said the power was not getting through the board, wasn't sure if it was the power supply itself or the distribution on the board. Given my previous issues, I would think the latter.

At this point looking like I'm in the market for a new laptop...

 

Sounds like only a professional would have a chance to revive it.

 

Yeah. I could try to find someone, but the odds are looking very poor. Suppose I'm also partial to wanting to upgrade too...