*** Official Clevo P65xRS(-G), P65xRP6(-G) / Sager NP8153(-S), NP8152(-S) Owner's Lounge ***

Yes, my backlight bleed has almost exactly the same pattern, but honestly I have to sit in a dark room with a black screen to notice it. Play games and watching movies I barely notice it.

 

That's my normal background. And I see it plain as day under normal use, lights on.

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You can try to open the frame of your screen to check if it's due to pressure from the frame or the screen is having backlight bleed by default.
P650rs tend to have frames that are pressuring the screen too much which leads to this backlight bleeding.

You backlight bleed seems too much though, I got mine replaced for backlight bleed similar to yours.

 

Does anyone know how much power the usb-c port on Sager 8153/Clevo P650RS can supply? I have a device that needs a stable 10-15W to function. I don't want to waste my usb-a ports. I heard that it is a standard to have usb-c port at 15W max and usb-a port at 7.5W max.

Also, will draining a lot of power from multiple usb ports have an effect on other usb ports (less power available) or performance. For example, can I drain 50W from the 5 usb ports without any side-effects. What is the total power or are the ports independent?

I know I can use a standard usb-a hub with external power but just for science will a pass-through usb-c hub, the one used for mac book pro, chromebook and other devices, damage the usb-c port or motherboard if connected.

I assume hdmi-to-usb-c and ethernet-to-usb-c adapters won't work plug-and-play similar to macbook pro. You have to use their respective ports. Only standard usb functionality would work. Is that correct?

 

Yeah played with that but no go. It was only when i reinstalled CCC that it came back. very odd.

 

Do you have Intel WiFi? You could just install the wifi driver after uninstalling CCC (which is bad karma ware).

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Can anyone familiar with the code extract keyboard backlight control on/off only from CCC?

Always ON mode is annoying, but what's more annoying is bloatware-looking and performing CCC=)

 

Same here, screen is by far the worst of this laptop. I'm also trying to fix it myself or I'll just have to return it for fixing it

 

Yeah i did download the latest driver from Intel for the 8260. The thing was it was if the device had been removed from the system as it wasnt in device manager, even as an unknown device so even when the driver update was run, it didn't find any device to update the drivers of. The reason i uninstalled CCC and reset NVRAM was as a result of the findings you had posted. Sadly for now i have had to revert back to CCC but will give it another go in a few days.

 

Wow, that is very strange. I also have the Intel WIFI and removing CCC did not have any effect on that.

CCC though was a disaster for me - I finally gave up on it =(

 

What happens if you use a blue background? I find it much less noticeable. Black is the worst - I mean this type of screen has to work very hard to block the light so you see black. If black is really important to you then you really want an OLED screen but that won't be great for gaming (or so I have heard).

 

I've heard the same about oled. So is it the panel or the bezel that dictates light bleed? It seems it can be both. Again, will an AHVA screen have the same issues? The 30" dell 1600p on my desktop doesnt have the same issues and thats a AHVA.

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Yes, a standalone app just for the llights (even just to turn them off) would be great...

I copied the HotKey directory before uninstalling, but the KbColorPicker.exe app won't run on it's own (probably needs the service).

 

Indeed... if someone can rip off CCC everything except working KbColorPicker.exe it would be great

 

New NVIDIA driver 375.86 https://www.nvidia.co.uk/download/driverResults.aspx/111134/en-uk

 

Well I've given up trying to repaste my laptop. 3 of the 4 screws on the GPU are stuck so tight that none of my screwdrivers will budge them an inch, even the smallest phillips head i have jumps out, even when i apply decent pressure. REALLY regretting not opting for thermal paste now.

 

Someone was working on a mod for this:

https://www.techinferno.com/index.p...mod-backlight-controller-with-lightfx/&page=1

The downside is that it had to use the Clevo drivers. What worries me is that keyboard app might be part of a larger binary making it hard to lift just that functionality... Maybe there's an API somewhere? =P

 

Wow, that is a pain =(

Post on the past thread in this sub-forum. You could get some help there - maybe this is a known issue?

Also - where did you get the laptop from?

Lastly, make sure to uninstall CCC and reset your nvram (search for instructions on this thread).

 

For the backlight bleed, it is essentially the screen itself and not the bezel. In fact, you can have some light bleed on the side of the screen and if your bezel is not installed correctly, than you can have some awfull backlight bleed
There is an option which seems to work. You have to remove the bezel, put some thin layer of black electrical tape to cover those bleeds and then reinstall the bezel
And this is my question, does someone try with success to remove this bezel ?

 

Search this thread - someone has done this. There is also a youtube video in which @HTWingNut demonstrates replacing the LCD in a Clevo (older model but I think it will help):

 

Regarding the Clevo keyboard lights without CCC - I found something promising. It's a script - so no need to compile:

http://www.indepthdefense.com/2015/05/awesome-keyboard-tricks-clevosager.html

 

Anyone know if theres a way to control the GPU fan speed. I've been stressing over thermal paste and fan profiles in the CC until it hit me that the CPU fans are fine, its the GPU fans that are spinning obnoxiously fast and then going down to nothing at all. If the GPU fans were consistently running at a slower speed, it would improve my quality of life so much. I tried using EVGA precision but it didnt seem to have control over fan speed. Anything possible here?

 

Do you have Clevo Control Center installed? That was the problem for me. GPU temps were very high - like high 80's low 90s!

After uninstalling CCC and doing an nvram reset my temps are now 62C running the same game with same settings...

 

This didn't work, I suspect the API changed out from under the author. He mentions examining the Linux version of CCC to figure out what was going on. Actually, maybe he's willing to help =)

@theroot - is the Linux port of CCC available for this model? Might be fun to take a look at it.

 

The script just hooks into the existing service. It doesn't work without CCC installed.

 

I tried uninstalling the CC but ultimately my core problem isn't the temps but the gpu fan noise. its just so LOUD and i wanted some control over how fast and often it was spinning, but the more i look into this the more i seem to notice that that might not be possible on a sager?

 

@Phoenix and @Papusan - what do you guys recommend for GPU fan control?

Can throttle stop do that too?

I've wondered about this, but my temps are so nice that I've been tolerating the noise...

 

not my field of expertise, @Papusan and @bloodhawk can assist.

 

MSI Afterburner.

 

Wow, you sure? That's false advertising... The author's intent was (I thought) not to install or use CCC at all.

Still, maybe the Linux port holds some answers? That doesn't seem to have any external dependencies so it must access the hardware without additional vendor libs.

https://bitbucket.org/lynthium/clevo-xsm-wmi/overview

EDIT: Well, this is interesting. It looks like the Linux code makes WMI calls. That either has to be in a kernel module or in firmware. Hmm... Also, here's another Linux effort:

https://github.com/gamaral/clevo-wmi

 

In games or the desktop?

 

Gpu fans running often... Due to high temp in idle and load, maybe you should still try to re-paste - even put in better thermal pads? If you can't do it yourself due problematic screws.. Ask a small repair shop where you live or the reseller you bought your machine to do the re-paste.

 

For those who have a P650RS-G, how portable is it?

 

I ordered my Sager NP8153-S (Clevo P650RS-G) nVidia GTX 1070 8GB from Gentechpc a week ago. Due to my concerns regarding the back-light bleeding, I asked for a picture of the screen before shipment. Someone named Ken from there has sent this picture and said the screen is Ok.



I just had to email back and complain by saying that the problem is so bad that I will have to RMA it if i receive it in this condition.

 

Depends on what you are used to. I just got one. It's definitely light enough, which was a pleasant surprise. However, I am used to carrying a Razer Blade, so for me it is larger than I wanted to carry (and hence being returned). If I wasnt used to the Razer, and didnt already have a DTR, I would have kept it, as it is a great combination of size and power. You can take it everywhere if you want to. Was a tough decision to return it for sure.

 

My unit is quite silent.
i use the first xmg EC and CCC with custom fan profile enabled.
i do use v-sync in every game, because the 1070 does not need to run at full clock for the most games with v-sync on.
i can run path of exile, divinity and other not so hardware demanding games ultra-silent this way.
even SQUAD or ARMA III at ultra settings does not make my fans spin up with vsync enabled. and SQUAD is an unoptimized demading game in alpha status. the 1070 is such a beast.
so i can play basically anything with my fans beeing so silent that i have to put my eary on the keyboard to recognize them.
in case i switch v-sync of, the unit stays silent until ~85° in the GPU, then maxspeed fans kick in until its back to 70°. (Custom Fan Profile)
so custom fan tables are still broken/unoptimized but im quite happy with my vsync workaround.

automatic fans are way to agressive, cant recommened to use this until a 100% fan-table-fixed EC is released or you are benchmarking etc.

 

1060 owners, I just want to ask how high can you OC your gpus. I only managed 185/300. Any higher Core than that it would fail the Firestrike stress test. I just used CCC GPU Oc tool where Mem OC is only 300 max. But I'm more concerned about the Core. I saw some youtube videos saying they can reach as high as +200 on Core, I wonder if it's possible.

 

Yeah, I need to tweak the fans with afterburner. My temps are actually lower than needed on the GPU so they don't need to spin as much as they do.

I also want to undervolt my CPU a bit which should help.

 

Fan curves in Afterburner as well as voltage control is locked tho.

 

Fan curves will never work in GPU tweakers as the GPU in notebooks has no control over the fans, it just reports the temp to the EC.

You can lock to certain positions on the curve as crude method of control, this wont let you raise it though for obvious reasons.

 

Hmm... fan speed option is locked in MSI afterburner... Maybe that's because of MSHYBRID mode?

EDIT: never mind.... saw the previous post explaining this...

 

I have a similar problem. My fan speed is always high while playing Witcher 3 on Ultra @ 4K. But my temps are low. Never over 63C GPU and like 56C CPU. CCC has been a bad experience so far, but I guess that is the only app that can control the fans. I guess the real solution is @Prema 's custom BIOS, though I'm not sure I'll know how to use it effectively (for example to control the fans...).

 

<dupe sorry>

 

I do not know how easy it is to put in custom fan profiles in bios / Ec or make the aut fan profile better, even with @Prema's arts. The best thing would have been, if it was possible to modify the CCC.., So you could choose exactly what you wanted out of this software. And Clevo seems to not get it to work properly

 

The clevodrivers 369 really sucked! My 3Dmark11 was down with 1400 points. Unigine heaven down only 1-2 fps, and had som tearing in some games. Did a clean install. Went with 375.86 and those worked much better.

 

I wonder if the new CCC is any better than the old one.

What made me pitch the old one was really high GPU temps. And that was with loud fans so they screwed something up other than just the fan profile.

I wonder if CCC tweaked the voltages on my GPU.

EDIT: would really like to see Clevo open source CCC. They may as well since the Linux version should be.

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I'm not sure I get this. If the GPU simply reports temps (along with other stats) then you just need a control system that regulates the temperature by increasing the fan when the temps go high. That's all the curve does.

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That's what the EC does and where that is handled. Nothing is done on the card so you cant control it from there.

Just like afterburner can't control the fans connected to my aquaero fan controller which is being fed the temperatures of the gpu.

 

And the the GREEN MESS continues It just gets worse and worse for every new driver release
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-geforce-375-86-whql-drivers-have-major-issues.html

 

Eurocom.com added extra step of polishing all of GPU heatsinks as part of their standard Production process. We see drop in GPU temps.