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    *** Official Clevo P65xRS(-G), P65xRP6(-G) / Sager NP8153(-S), NP8152(-S) Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by HardCore88, Aug 18, 2016.

  1. cedrixman

    cedrixman Notebook Enthusiast

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    P650RS
    Do you max the fans ?
    I have 1 SSD m.2 and 1 HDD 1TB
    I also ask the reseller to repaste CPU/GPU with MX4 thermal paste. It can be a reason !!!
     
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    Yes I have the dame drives. Unit was repasted by the reseller with kryonaut
     
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    Arent those scores low? Is it extreme preset? Boostclock disabled? I get 106-108 fps with -185 UV. Gpu 67C cpu 62C.
     
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    This is interesting, thanks for the info!


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    Yes, the Intel turbo is disabled so the clock will be 2,6GHz maximum. But, those figures are normals, even a bit higher than major benchmarks You can find on Internet (even professional reviews)
    It is not extreme preset but custom preset with all maxed
    What is you score ?
     
  6. taraquin

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    Score is around 2700, I usually just see the fps. I only use the extreme preset.
     
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    I've been playing around with OC'ing a bit. Starting with stock multpliers and performance power settings (turbo boost enabled) my fwprime v1.55 score is

    213.21 sec (8 threads / 1024M) @ 64C

    Changing all the multipliers to 40 (for all core configurations) in the BIOS and the ring cache to 38 I get this score and making some changes in throttlestop (setting overclock in turbo ratio limits).

    181.117 sec (8 threads / 1024M) @ 75C

    I've noticed that there is some throttling going on - the clock rates gradually drop to around 3.6GHz perhaps to keep the temps at 75C. I don't know what is doing this.

    Either way that is a 15% relative performance increase at a cost of 10C.

    I'm not clear on how to undervolt. Any help would be great since that might make OCing more worthwhile.

    I uninstalled CCC and did an nvram reset before getting started so this is all with BIOS and throttlestop settings which I'm trying to understand.
     
  9. arndawg

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    Hello,

    I just received my P650RS-G from Eluktronics and just as expected, using Optimus aka MSHYBRID in Windows 10 causes lag / stuttering / micro stuttering but did lead to a huge increase in battery life. Many people are convinced that it some API calls in Windows 10 UI are triggering the dGPU.

    An easy way for me to trigger this was to right click on my desktop and select "Display Settings" which would 99% of the time trigger a ~1 second freeze including the mouse. Clicking on the battery icon would sometimes trigger this as well.

    I can truly say that my issue has gone away with a combination of the latest drivers and BIOS.

    First I installed - Intel HD Graphics 530 - win64_154510.4542.exe since I thought that it would be Intel's job to tell Windows 10 what it's capable of doing without triggering the dGPU - no go.

    Second I installed - NVIDIA GeFroce GTX 1070 - 375.95-desktop-win10-64bit-international-whql.exe - no go.

    For a couple of hours I kept using MSHYBRID by simply disabling the GTX 1070 in Device Manager and enabling when I needed it.

    I then looked at my Event Viewer and because of the Windows 10 Anniversary Update there were plenty of DCOM errors. I'm unsure if that is related to this issue but I resolved them all before I proceeded since one of them was regarding the Immersive Shell DCOM process.

    After this I installed the latest BIOS from Eluktronics - P650RS(G)-P670RS(G)-P670RP6 Release Date 11/19/2016 ( P650RS(G)_P670RP6(G)_BIOS_1.05.05TEI.rar) - After many BIOS reboots and a couple of Windows 10 reboots in order to get the drivers sorted out, I no longer get a stutter / delay when I select "Display Settings" from right clicking on the Desktop.

    Really enjoying this laptop now.
     
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    wkamil Notebook Consultant

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    Link, please ;)
     
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    ezzle Newbie

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    Can confirm that it's .05. They just haven't updated the text in the instructions.

    #1
    #2
     
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  14. wkamil

    wkamil Notebook Consultant

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    Did you flash it?

    Wysłane z Mi5
     
  15. ezzle

    ezzle Newbie

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    I did. No problems for me (so far at least)

    Sent fra min EVA-L09 via Tapatalk
     
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    Is flexicharger working?

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    We'll see ;)
     
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    I have clevo p650rp6-g and I have installed control center from clevo, anyone know why I cant run CPU MEMORY OC application? Nothing happens after double click, and error in EVENT viewer appear - kernelbase.exe

    someone?
     
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    alex5700 Notebook Enthusiast

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    No, its not working after unplug... still not repaired even in 1.05.05 bios.
     
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    I have the same problem you are not alone.
     
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    someone installed from 1.05.03TR to 1.05.02TR1 without problems but you need check earlier posts from 2-3 weeks
     
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    That kind of lag I am experiencing as well, I mean, was.

    It might be helpful for some, but for me and MSHYBRID mode I'm on - TURNING OFF Cortana suggestions from the spotlight as well as notificatons fixed the stuttering. Hope it helps someone.

    In terms of software I've clean-installed latest Intel and NVIDIA drivers but it didn't help me at all. As well as event logs showed nothing about my SSD been broken or something. I've re-checked performance graphs while I was triggering those freezes by clicking battery icon or opening up Geforce experience, and saw that there were just small spikes of CPU usage, nothing different from simply messing around with windows. So that's how I concluded that it is not a hardware issue for me, and for those who are struggling, try with the software first. My advice don't go with this BIOS flashing-reflashing (that's what I thought at first my only solution) wait for some major retailer updates BIOS). Start with the software.
     
  23. Fiodooor

    Fiodooor Newbie

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    Guys, can someone show on screenshots how to disable G-sync?
     
  24. GeoFrank91

    GeoFrank91 Notebook Geek

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    So I'm going to be ordering the P650RS-G this week with the 1080p panel from HIDevolutin @Donald@HIDevolution. I've gathered that the general consensus is to undervolt the CPU my -175mV with throttlestop.

    Is there anything else I should do? Does thanyone HIDevolution model come with CCC installed?

    Also, should I go with the killer wifi or the intel card?
     
  25. mishkasm

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    First of all, start off with something like -50mV and then go in small increments. Don't jump the gun to -175mV right away. Run some stress test, let it sit for a couple of days while you play games, and if everything looks good go ahead and increase the undervolt. You don't want to overshoot it by a lot as that can cause problems.

    I got mine from HID with CCC installed. It SEEMS like it may be ok as long as you disable the XTU entries and don't touch the fan settings at all. Other options include just not using CCC and using an older version.

    I went with the Intel card as the software for Killer is known to be a bit buggy. Both are good cards though.
     
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  26. GeoFrank91

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    How do you disable the XTU entries? And which ones should be disabled?

    And good point on undervolting in small increments, makes sense as I don't want Toronto screw something up. How are the stock fan settings then and what version of CCC do you have?
     
  27. mishkasm

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    Here is the way some people are suggesting you do it: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...Qvn-spKxhSmMhqNiZWkcL0vBkw/edit#gid=377497278

    Now, what I have done is simply uninstall CCC, then do the nvram reset, then installed the .50 version and never touched the fan settings at all. Just use it to control the keyboard lights. Seems to work for me, but ymmv. For a long while I had no CCC at all, but I don't mind the blue keyboard lights. If you want to change them to something you do need to use CCC, at least as of now.
     
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    Anyone else getting a weird issue where the screen just turns off after a few seconds of innactivity?
    I'm on the latest BIOS, nvidia drivers and CCC. These updates fixed a lot of issues I was having with screen tearing and low performance in games but now I'm getting this weird sh*t...
    I have everything set to high performance on windows, intel and nvidia settings, I'm also in discrete mode.

    Sometimes moving the mouse wakes up the screen, others it doesn't but clicking does...

    Wtf..
     
  29. LoveGamers

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    Not sure if anyone has said this yet or not but Hidevolution just added a 120 hz display option.

    15.6" 120Hz - 5ms Full HD (1920x1080) TN Antiglare Matte Type Display - with nVIDIA® G-SYNC™ Technology
     
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    Do flexicharger work after last biosupdate?
     
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    no... and look on previous answers for god sake asking the same question.
     
  32. taraquin

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    I asked this a while back and it looks like there has been new BIOSes released since then. Didnt mean to make you upset. Sorry :)
     
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    It only works until you unplug then you have to go to bios and save flexicharge enabled once again. Good thing is that fans on 650rs-g behave quiet after update to 1.05.05 dont know how it looks on other models.
     
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    Okay. I read about another giys who said it worked even after unplug but never got an answear of which bios he had.
     
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    Good but in EU these displays are or soon will be also available (at lest from where i'm getting mine thanks to their link to Prema freedom!).
     
  37. FredSRichardson

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    Okay, I can confirm that once you unpack the 0.98 version of CCC and edit the "oem.init" here:

    SupportXTUFanTable=0

    Then then when you run setup.exe it will not install XTU. Very nice find by um whoever first posted this trick =)

    On a different note, has anyone played with increasing TDP? My temps are nice and low but the CPU throttles. I'm trying to see if I can run wprime with 8 threads and keep the cores running at 4.0GHz. I'm not sure what the safe settings are for this...
     
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    I personally give up in my quest to reduce temps and keep performance. After doing the recommended steps of CCC with no XTU, flash nvram and such, my performance is quite worse and temps are back to high. Not mentioning that this updated version of CCC has super weird fan profiles (at minimum even reaching 80C...)

    I'll probably restore the latop to stock and undervolt and stick to that
     
  39. FredSRichardson

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    Stock nvram reset without ccc gives decent fan defaults. Something like auto.

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    I've tried that, and fan profiles are just horrible comparing with the stock I had. Maybe my reseller have custom profiles from bios or something, idk. I just know everything's worse now lol
     
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    It says Style Note (white on black) upon bootup. I like it better than the large yellow Eluktronics logo.
     
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    I've been using my P650RS-G for a month now and I've noticed that my GPU temp soars up to 84C under load while CPU stays somewhere in the 77-82C range. Is my CPU throttling? I can't seem to find a proper guide to ThrottleStop to undervolt my CPU. This happens mostly when I game in 4K and bump up all settings to Ultra. Even at high settings, temperature is around the same range. Any help?
     
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    I'm a novice user and doing this off of the top of my head so someone else can chime in to help:
    1.) Download Throttlestop
    2.) Run/install, Click on FIVR
    3.) for CPU Core check "Unlock Adjustable Voltage" make sure it is set to Adaptive
    4.) Adjust your Offset Voltage in increments of -50mV (I think we are seeing people with anywhere from -125mV to -175mV) checking to see that system is stable
    5.) for CPU Cache check "Unlock Adjustable Voltage" make sure it is set to adaptive
    6.) Adjust Offset Voltage in increments of -50mV checking to see that system is stable
    7.) You can extend the "Range" from 125mV to 250mV if you want to test further than -125mV
    8.) Repeat the same steps for Profiles 2-4 (top left corner)
    9.) Make sure settings save (check bottom right box for options)
    10.) Watch your temps go down!
     
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    Hi there guys, just signed up and to ask you knowledgeable fellows a quick question.

    I posted this exact message on p670rs-g owners thread but iv have noticed that this thread is more active than that one so I hope you guys dont mind if I ask the same thing here.

    I recently ordered the metabox p670rs-g, and from what i read on these forums there is a problem with fan speeds and such with this model due the bios fan tables (correct me if im wrong).

    I recently discovered this bios, http://www.eluktronics.com/support/p650rs-g-p670rs-g-p670rp6-bios-update/, its bios version 1.05.05. this bios was mentioned on this thread, but i couldnt find any sort of definitive answer whether it fixes the fan issue, or maybe causes some other undesirable effect and thus should not be used.

    can anyone kindly give me some input on this... it would greatly appreciated...
     
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    Do you have CCC installed? Do you have XTU installed as well? CCC without XTU is okay, but the GPU OC feature is probably a bad idea to use. Try uninstalling both and delete the XTU directory in safe mode (and disable the service). Then do an nvram reset and check temps again.
     
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    There are two things: the BIOS and the EC. Sometimes they are installed together and sometimes separately. The point is that the fan is controlled by the EC and not the BIOS. When you check versions you need to check them for both EC and BIOS.

    I have not had too many problems with the fan. I actuallly think it works pretty well. What you want to do is to make sure you don't install XTU or run it if it is installed. From what I have heard XTU can really mess up your fan.

    The problem is that XTU is bundled with recent versions of CCC. You can prevent this by editing the oem.ini file before installing CCC. Just set the XTU related option to 0.
     
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    Guys, need help. CCC stopped working altogether even after uninstall and trying other version. Maybe some driver update made by Windows, I don't know. It installs properly but just shows "has stopped working" whenever i try to open it. Anybody experienced this?
     
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    Have you tried revo uninstall?

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    Just got my Clevo p650-RS. First thing I noticed is that Gsync options aren't being displayed (used the drivers from Clevo's site). Any solution to this issue?
     
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    Are you in hybrid mode or discrete? Hybrid doesn't allow gsync. Check BIOS or clevo control center

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