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after further testing I found out it's actually VRAM... but that's a whole 3GB of VRAM, star citizen shouldn't be this much of a vram hog

 

I had star citizen go to 6.5GB vram.

 

Memory leak

 

It was not over time and it recovered it in another scene. How much is used and how much is cached is another matter.

 

Sorry I was responding to @heibk201. The game should not crash unless it's a memory leak.

 

so is there any way to run this with 3gb vram? because currently I could barely even load into the game. I get inside the hangar, the game crashes

 

Did you try lowering all graphical settings incl. resolution?

 

is there a way to do that without having to load the game first? because for now I can't even walk around the hangar for 5 sec without my entire graphics card having a breakdown

 

If it's on CryEngine there should be a config file where you can tweak all settings manually. TBH I have a hard time believing a 3GB card won't even run the game w/o crashing.

 

you and me both, this should not happen on a PC exclusive. I still edd nsome help finding the config file. I tried game.cfg and there's nothing useful there

 

Look here: http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Star_Citizen#Configuration_file.28s.29_location

Try system.cfg?

 

I'm dead certain that is all cache. I could not turn up the graphics higher in my run and it never even approached 4GB

 

never mind, I figured out the reason. I limited virtual memory to 2gb before thinking that I'll never need 8gb of RAM lol

 

I'm looking to buy a new laptop in the next couple of months and I was just reading some of the reviews posted here when I came upon a discrepancy I'd like to get clarified if possible.

From 2 of the reviews I've seen on here on the Clevo 650SE are completely contradictory and it seems that the screen may have a bunch of flex or no flex. The review of the Digital Storm Triton based on the Clevo 650SE states:
"We could feel the chassis exterior flex every time we picked up the notebook regardless of where we held it. The screen lid is likewise extremely flexible; allowing you to create “ripples” of distortion on the screen if you press on the back of the lid." - http://www.notebookreview.com/notebookreview/digital-storm-triton-review-clevo-p650se/

Then the review of the Eurocom M5 Pro based on the Clevo 650SE states the exact opposite:
"The M5 Pro is constructed from a mix of aluminum and plastic; with the latter making up the majority of the chassis and the former being found on the display backing, palm rest, and entire bottom of the notebook. The chassis has very good rigidity on par with business-class notebooks. There’s minimal flex in the palm rest and surrounding areas as well. The lid has ample support from the aluminum backing and also has a low amount of flex. Additionally, we were unable to produce ripples in the display by pressing in from behind the lid, which is always a good sign of durability." - http://www.notebookreview.com/notebookreview/eurocom-m5-pro-review-clevo-p650se/

Since they mention in the M5 Pro review that it is a mix of metal and plastic and it is upgradeable to the 980m during build it would seem to be actually based on the 650SG chassis like the Sager NP6852 since that is a little heavier and thicker. Is it the case that the extra thickness eliminates the flex that seems to be present in the Triton, especially in the screen/lid, or is it just two different people's opinion on flex?

If that's the case that will definitely settle it fully toward the NP8652 instead of just leaning that way over the NP8651, and if they both flex a lot may have to look at some other options.
Thanks

 

Hey kids, don't mess with your pagefile

 

Hi all!

I still having the high pitched noise from the cpu fan and I would like to ask if you could hear it on your units too, here is a video that I have upload where you could hear this background noise, on the video it doesn't sound all the time but in real life that happens all the time while the cpu its at 100% (I was using the intel XTU stress test, with fans on automatic). The room was completly silent and this unit doesn´t have any mechanic disk, instead uses a samsung SSD, and also I had to recorded it near the unit because my mobile phone doesn't record it right if I put it about 50cm far away (my working distance).



Be sure that you are using headphones, because they are better for this high frequency noises.

Thanks!!

 

bro, before star citizen the most demanding game I had was crisis 3, which doesn't need 8gb for sure. I limited the virtual to save write cycles on my ssd

 

Don't believe those myths

 

oh I stopped believing a long time ago, I just forgot to change my settings back

 

Yeah I set my pagefile back to my OS SSD from my HDD as well. Whenever I'd render to my HDD, all programs would load like crap. I realized that even though I have 10GB of RAM free, the pagefile STILL gets used. So SSD for me, thank you very much.

Take this as a lesson folks. If you ever max out your HDD (recording, rendering, etc) leave your pagefile on your SSD if you plan to multitask at all during the render/etc process.

 

You should always keep pagefile on SSD anyway

 

Just ordered the P650SG from Pro-Star! It's going to be a psychologically taxing wait I'll have a mini review once it arrives.

 

I have a (rebranded) Clevo 651SE, can't say that I notice any significant flex, it seems sturdy and well made

 

Anyone?

I know lots of people here use a Cooler Master U3, so I was just wondering what are the best places to position the fans underneath my P651SE. Thanks!

 

look at where are the holes of the fans : 2 for the gpu 1 for the CPU and place your Notepal fans underneath, #CaptainObvious

 

Thanks, though what wasn't obvious to me was whether it would be best to position the fans underneath the laptops fan intakes (as you suggest) or blowing directly underneath the vents for the GPU and CPU themselves, so cooling them at source...

 

The barebone of the P650SG is made of plastic the thermal conductivity isn't really optimal, so putting the fans underneath the location of the CPU is useless, when you put them underneath the fan intake you're cooling the whole thermal circuit since the air passing by the heatsink will be cooler, if CLEVO had put some holes just underneath the CPU/GPU, installing the fans underneath the CPU/GPU heatsink would have been an option.

 

I have a P651SE, which has a metal underneath, also there are vent holes directly underneath the GPU and CPU, as far as I can tell, hence my question!

 

thats right, dont mess with the pagefile, just deactivate it completely and be done with it already

 

Thanks, has anyone had both the 65xSE and the 65xSG to say how they compare flex wise?

 

my np8561 has minimal flex on the screen i have to really try to flex it but it will flex.. as for the body that thing is completely solid. I don't think i could flex it even if i wanted to.

 

My Macbook Air has far more flex than my Clevo P651SE!

 

Only on the CPU there are holes, but it's way better to put your fans right below the laptop's fans . Since you have na notepal U3, Put 1 fan between the GPU fans holes, 1 below the CPU fan holes, and 1 right below the CPU (below the heatsink).

 

Okay, that makes sense, especially as it's the CPU on our machines that seems to have more cooling problems than the GPU

 

That's asking for more trouble

 

u think so? nah.... last time i had a system with an activates pagefile was like... 4 years ago? no issues whatsoever. but then again, always made sure that i got way more ram installed that id ever need

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Amount of installed RAM has nothing to do with it. You don't use programs like Star Citizen that freak out with no or too small pagefile.

http://azius.com/blog/pagefile-yes1/

 

Speaking about flex I don't think I should be worried but when you push the screen from the back at the bottom of the screen (if you are at the front of the screen this is where the lego would be) does it pop out somewhat? I guess this is normal though. Also, whats a good cleaning method for all the fingerprints that get on this beauty of a machine?

 

Damn. I put in an order for P650SE from Eurocom early last week, and I found out just now that my order was delayed for a week because they ran out of no logo covers but failed to let me know. It's definitely leaving me with a very salty taste of the company considering I asked specifically if they had the logoless covers at the time of purchasing, and someone from the sales team replied back with the stock count.

They are compensating with a free upgrade to a 4720HQ, but I frankly would rather have what I initially requested. If someone wasn't already waiting to purchased my Gigabyte laptop, I would have waited. A measly 100MHz boost is not very significant in the grand scheme of things to sway me over.

Now, does anyone know where to get the stock back and front covers from? Perhaps Sager will be able to supply them? I am not a big fan of the Eurocom logo.

 

As discussed previously in this thread, you can remove the logo on the lid quite easily with acetone and the one on the LCD bezel with a milder solvent

 

Thanks, I hadn't realized others were in the same boat as me.

Oh geez, it was in the recent pages too, and I have been following this thread for the past week and a half!

 

They are really similar to a high quality sticker. You can take a blow dryer to one to help get it lifted, then clean up as mentioned.

 

ok, so first the author of that article says that the necessity of the pagefile is independent from the available RAM in a system. in the end, he gives an example, where a system with a disabled pagefile and 8GB ram gets the "running out of virtual memory" error, because there are 3GB commited and 6GB of commit request and the 8GB of RAM is just not enough to handle that request...

hes basically contradicting himself. in his example, a system with 16GB of RAM would never get that error, exactly BECAUSE the amount of installed RAM is significant for whether or not to disable the pagefile

as i said before, i havent used a pagefile in over four years and i havent had one single pagefile / virtual memory related incident during that whole time case closed

 

Like I said, some programs require pagefile or they will fail to launch or crash. You could have 32GB RAM for all they care. May I ask what is the actual performance benefit of disabling pagefile if you already have an SSD?

 

I used to suggest to people that have a lot of RAM to get rid of the page file to get your SSD space back. But just the other weekend I had my computer reboot because I ran out of RAM. I was using PremierePro, and I did get a few warnings before it happened so I should have listened to it.

I think if you're not running low on SSD space then go ahead and have a page file. Once you start running low of free SSD space then change it up if you don't need it.

 

A lot of people to do so because SSD space is pricey. The Pagefile takes up the same amount of RAM you have installed, so 16gb system would have 16gb missing for that Pagefile unless altered. Most people getting 120gb or so SSD that's about 13% of their total storage on that SSD.

 

not about performance, its the space im not accepting to give out to a pagefile that in my eyes is redundant SSDs have gotten cheaper, sure, but that doesnt mean that SSD space is dirt-cheap id rather put it to better use

and sure there may be programs that absolutely "need" a pagefile, just like games that absolutely "need" more than 4GB of vRAM, which is ridonculous and has nothing to do with actual "need" but rather bad programming / optimization

 

Disabling pagefile is usually a bad idea, specially if you plan on playing the newer games, which require pagefile. What should be disabled is Hibernate (hiberfil.sys) and set closing the laptop lid as sleep.

Does anyone know if you can downgrade a 3K panel to a FullHD one? I got my Clevo on a sale that included a 3K IPS panel and i'm aware of the problems they have when scaling to 1080p, as it is a 3K panel instead of a 4K, the scaling is ineffective and leaves the desktop with an annoying blur, so i'm thinking of buying a FullHD screen to replace this one, as I intend to use 1080p on everything. If they are both eDP there should be no problem, no?

 

Meh, I keep hibernate enabled for Windows 8 fast startup, no hiberfil.sys shrinkage or nothing. I don't see myself running out of space on a 512GB SSD, a 1TB would be even more overkill for me.

 

It doesn't really help much, and it negates your ability to "fix" a problem by "restarting" windows too. If you're on a SSD, you might as well delete the hibernation file and thus disable hibernation. It has done little but cause problems for quite a few people.

Space can be a bit of an issue on a 120GB SSD though. I'm sitting at 30GB free and that's JUST enough left for my shadowplay temp recordings.