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    *** Official Clevo P65xSA/SE/SG / Sager NP8650/51/52 Owner´s Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by jaybee83, Oct 13, 2014.

  1. Trewhela

    Trewhela Notebook Consultant

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    Mine gets to 90c on gta v, its normal ???. Also i downclocked the cpu to 32x and -76mwv and hits 80c.

    Thanks !!!

    PS its a Eurocom and the seller told me that they used IC7
     
    Trewhela, May 8, 2015
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  2. kaded

    kaded Notebook Guru

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  3. Support.3@XOTIC PC

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    Besides reinstalling the drivers, have you uninstalled then reinstalled EVGA P. and HWinfo.
     
    Support.3@XOTIC PC, May 8, 2015
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  4. vinceboiii

    vinceboiii Animals are friends, not food.

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    Hey guys, anyone here use a screen protector? I'm looking for one because I use my laptop at work and my coworkers like to point and touch my screen..Need to protect my IPS screen from these idiots! I looked on amazon but not sure which ones fit.
     
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  5. kaded

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    Yep, HWinfo stopped doing it but EVGA P. still gets me BSODed.
     
    kaded, May 8, 2015
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  6. octiceps

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    It's gamma, not contrast. Some games will override the current Windows gamma setting with their own when you play in fullscreen. It's similar to how fullscreen games ignore ICC profiles. The solution is to look for any gamma correction setting in these games, or play in a borderless window.
     
    octiceps, May 8, 2015
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  7. byunjoe

    byunjoe Notebook Guru

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    As I said, it seems to be stemming form the Hotkey app. It is not the Intel Graphics Driver, or Windows.
     
    byunjoe, May 8, 2015
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    Whatever it was, it's fixed now.

    I think my CS:GO was glitched that time I booted it up.

    Playing it now and the gamma/contrast is fine.

    Weird that it happened yesterday, but never before.
     
    bernieyee, May 8, 2015
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  9. bernieyee

    bernieyee Notebook Evangelist

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    Btw, anyone have experience Hackintosh'ing their P650SE?

    Want to play around with OS X on this system.
     
    bernieyee, May 8, 2015
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  10. Ionising_Radiation

    Ionising_Radiation ?v = ve*ln(m0/m1)

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    Shouldn't be an issue. If you've got Prema Mod, then head over to CPU Configuration and switch off/disable the MSR 0xE2 lock. You need to play around with the dGPU settings and switch off the Nvidia chip as well. If you've got an external hard drive/a spare internal drive, things are even easier as you don't have to deal with partitioning/reformatting, backing up and all that tiresome work.

    After that, if you've already got a Mac/a friend who's willing to lend you his/her Mac, getting OS X on this is easy: go here and read ALL the stickies. Then you can choose whether you want a UEFI install (Clover, decent but I don't use it because it's unnecessarily complicated), or Chameleon/Chimera, which are far easier to set up and they get the job done.

    I personally use the latter, and I haven't upgraded to Yosemite either. It looks ridiculous and I hate Helvetica, but that's just my opinion. If you want Mavericks, I've still got the installer which I can send.
     
    Ionising_Radiation, May 9, 2015
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  11. LoneSyndal

    LoneSyndal Notebook Deity

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    Looking forward for an update since driver crashes are a norm for me. I haven't tried it on the newer drivers yet though, so I may have to check back with that soon.

    Have you tried updating it? I had mine off for however long...

    Its from Clevo Hotkey app and not Windows.
     
    LoneSyndal, May 10, 2015
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  12. Sebi97

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    I'm really excited for Prema to release BIOS 309 unlocked :)
     
    Sebi97, May 10, 2015
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  13. octiceps

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    And you seem awfully persistent about it. ;)

    Taking a stab at it, maybe the new release implements the system-wide BIOS clocklock (not just vBIOS clockblock) that was mentioned by Prema.
     
    octiceps, May 10, 2015
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  14. Sebi97

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    Possibly, I just want to beat the 980m and get custom fan curves :)
     
    Sebi97, May 10, 2015
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    Well if Prema is unable to remove clockblock from the latest BIOS, why would he release a mod for it? Just a thought.

    Unless there is something really beneficial about the latest update, I'm more than happy to stay on an older BIOS to have OC capability.
     
    octiceps, May 10, 2015
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  16. HeardEmSay

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    I'm trying to figure out what the best ips screen is with the lowest response time on the 8651......
    LTN156HL01-102 Apparently that's the best one? except on panel look it says 30ms but some users are saying 16.... I'm confused...
     
    HeardEmSay, May 11, 2015
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  17. trvelbug

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    Is the standard 1080p ips screen on the 8652 any good
    Also can the cpu be undervolted without the use of bios mods
     
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  18. trvelbug

    trvelbug Notebook Prophet

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    Just making sure, the windows oem version I get with this sager is eligible for the free Windows 10 upgrade right?

    Sent from a Galaxy far, far away
     
    trvelbug, May 11, 2015
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  19. Ionising_Radiation

    Ionising_Radiation ?v = ve*ln(m0/m1)

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    ANY legitimate Windows 7/8/8.1 install is eligible to be freely upgraded to the corresponding version of Windows 10.

    Meaning to say, Windows 7/8/8.1 Enterprise will be upgraded to Windows 10 Enterprise. Windows 7 Ultimate will be upgraded to Windows 10 Pro, as well as Windows 8/8.1 Pro. Windows 7 Home Basic/Premium and ordinary (non-Pro) versions of Windows 8/8.1 will be upgraded to the non-Pro Windows 10.
     
    Ionising_Radiation, May 11, 2015
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  20. D2 Ultima

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    I believe he said before he could remove it, and is waiting for the right time.
     
    D2 Ultima, May 11, 2015
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  21. trvelbug

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    Thanks just making sure, cause I read a Microsoft faq that said oem version are not upgradeable to other versions of Windows. But they are likely waving that based on your statement.

    Sent from a Galaxy far, far away
     
    trvelbug, May 11, 2015
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  22. 007shinobi

    007shinobi Notebook Geek

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    Anybody getting BSOD when they plug in the charger?
     
    007shinobi, May 11, 2015
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  23. Praedaedae

    Praedaedae Notebook Guru

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    Yeah, we know :)
     
    Praedaedae, May 11, 2015
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  24. ShadowedIce

    ShadowedIce Notebook Guru

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    I have not run into that issue. What is the error in the BSOD?
     
    ShadowedIce, May 11, 2015
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  25. Praedaedae

    Praedaedae Notebook Guru

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    I'm on 344.75, forgot to mention that. I'll do more tests when I have time and report back.
     
    Praedaedae, May 11, 2015
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  26. 007shinobi

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    I get a DRIVER_POWER_FAILURE so I assume its one of my drivers (I'll look at the dump later) but always seems to happen only when I connect the charger and may have happened at one point when i disconnected.
     
    007shinobi, May 11, 2015
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  27. comicgeek

    comicgeek Notebook Geek

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    Do you have any recommended backpacks that can carry this laptop and brick comfortably? Looking specifically with padding and dedicated compartments for the power brick.
     
    comicgeek, May 11, 2015
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  28. IvanTSI

    IvanTSI Notebook Enthusiast

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    Asus rog Nomad
     
    IvanTSI, May 11, 2015
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  29. Support.3@XOTIC PC

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    Thats an odd time for that to occur. It could be your GPU drivers as the computer could be switching power plans when you plug in your AC Adapter. As mentioned get the dump report when you get a chance. WhoCrashed is a good program that will often pinpoint which driver is causing it.
     
    Support.3@XOTIC PC, May 11, 2015
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  30. kaded

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    Happens to me only when I start EVGA Precision. Gaming and everything else is fine. I think it's because of nvidia deiver version 350.12. Some people exprerience this issue, too.
     
    kaded, May 12, 2015
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  31. Mjolner

    Mjolner Notebook Evangelist

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    I use this backpack:
    https://www.thule.com/en-us/us/prod.../thule-crossover-32l-daypack-_-tl_85854231374

    It has ample padding and a completely separate laptop compartment. The P650SE fits almost exactly in the sleeve and seems to match it perfectly in every dimension; it doesn't even poke out over the top. I usually just put the power supply in the main compartment with all my other stuff because I don't like putting small, heavy objects in the same compartment as the laptop.


    Also on an unrelated note, do any of the Xoticpc guys here know if there are Witcher 3 codes available? Since my laptop has a 970m it should be eligible, at least according to the website.
     
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    Support.3@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    We still do have some available, you can PM me your order number and I can you a download code.
     
    Support.3@XOTIC PC, May 12, 2015
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  33. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Prema Mod v2 is currently in beta...HTWingNut has his copy. :)

    I have also enabled SPD write support for Thaiphoon Burner software. ;)

    Anyone with a P6xxSG (GTX980M) vBIOS other than 84.04.1F.00.E1, please PM me.
     
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  34. Sebi97

    Sebi97 Notebook Evangelist

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    YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!! thank you thank you thank you!!!!

    will we be able to modify fan curves?
     
    Sebi97, May 12, 2015
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  35. ShadowedIce

    ShadowedIce Notebook Guru

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    Here is what I have:

    BIOS Version:1.03.05aRLS1
    EC Firmware: 1.03.06.
    vBIOS: 84.04.1F.00.E1
     
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  36. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Not beyond what HotKeyApp allows you to...but its using EC v9 (SE) v7 (SG), so may behave better now.
     
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  37. Sebi97

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    Made some quick shortcuts to change powerplans if anyone is interested. Here it is. Read the READ ME, quite easy to use.
     
    Sebi97, May 12, 2015
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  38. weav

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    Looks like Clevo updated Hotkey to 3.16.29. Just got it downloaded so not sure if it behaves any better but just giving a heads up. They also posted updated realtek and intel wifi drivers.

    http://www.clevo.com.tw/clevo_down.asp?lang=en

    OTHERS Hotkey driver 3.16.29 for P6xxSE\P65xSE-L\P6xxSG\P6xxSA. Hotkey.zip [​IMG]USA [​IMG]ASIA [​IMG]EUROPE 199123 2015/4/30
     
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  39. kaded

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    What difference do they have from changing the plans via Hotkey app?

    Downloaded it from the Europe servers and data2.cab is broken :/
     
    kaded, May 13, 2015
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  40. weav

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    I grabbed it from the Asia link and is the newer. Link to USA is for the older version - not sure about the Europe link. Takes forever but was intact and installed fine. Do notice the automatic fan profile seems a bit more aggressive as I hear the fans more. Switched to custom and good to go so far. There is an "overclock" selection on the fan now but can't select it.. so looks like another non-polished release as usual!
     
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  41. trvelbug

    trvelbug Notebook Prophet

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    just got my 8652, beautiful sleaak machine. im still in the process of setting up my programs and such but i noticed that the fingerprint reader program doesnt seem to be installed- but the esgistec fingetprint reader driver is.

    im sure the program is in the cd, but i dont have a dvd driver atm. is there anywhere online where i can dpwnload this?
     
    trvelbug, May 14, 2015
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  42. Praedaedae

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    I'm not aware of any "program" for it. There is just the driver, afaik. You can only use it to log in to windows. You'll have to create a password for your account first.
     
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  43. trvelbug

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    i see, i do have a password for my windows account already, how do i active/use the fingerprint reader? my old sager had a program associated with it


    edit: nvm sorted it out
     
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  44. Oxford_Guy

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    Where did you find the program? My XMG P505 had a finger print program installed on it when I received the machine, but I had to do a fresh install at one point, but couldn't find where to get this to install it, though am able to use the finger print reader for logging into Windows (only)
     
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  45. trvelbug

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    All you need is the driver and you choose finger print as one of the sign in options in Windows

    Sent from a Galaxy far, far away
     
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  46. Oxford_Guy

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    But the fingerprint software that was originally installed on my machine could do other things too, you could set it so that if you swiped with a certain finger, you could have it open a specified program, and other such funky things, whereas all I can use it for now is to log into Windows :-(

    Does anyone know where I can obtain the original fingerprint reader application that was installed?
     
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  47. trvelbug

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    Yeah the upek program that came with my 8150 was definitely more versatile. I'm not sure if it will work with this reader though.

    Sent from a Galaxy far, far away
     
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  48. Oxford_Guy

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    Well whatever came with my XMG P505 (i.e. a rebranded Clevo P651SE) worked with that!
     
    Oxford_Guy, May 14, 2015
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    It should be on the driver disk/USB drive that you received with your laptop. If not, you can download it from our website! Just go to xmg.co.uk > Drivers & Downloads (from the menu bar) and then navigate to XMG>XMG_P505>Drivers :)
     
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    ShadowedIce Notebook Guru

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    Has anyone experienced any coil whine on their system? I've noticed on both a np8651 and a np8652. It is worst when I run the Cloud Gate 3D mark benchmark. If anyone could run that and let me know if they hear anything that would be great. Here is a recording of noise.
     
    ShadowedIce, May 14, 2015
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