*** Official Clevo P65xSA/SE/SG / Sager NP8650/51/52 Owner´s Lounge ***

You can find the panel model numbers and use panelook.com to check. Also notebookcheck reviews of laptops will show their colour angles and give an example of the representation they have, so that's a good place to start looking.

 

This year I'm going to go for a matte 4K IPS display, Skylake and the 980M successor. Hopefully with a higher capacity battery this time too and G-Sync support. Make it happen Clevo and the UK resellers!

I'm impatiently waiting. Mostly because I regret getting a glossy display. That was definitely a mistake.

 

Are you going to resell your current laptop to finance the new one?

 

Yes. I can't be without a PC for more than a few days though so the current one will only be sold after I get my hands on the new one! That strategy worked well for me last year.

I wish I could go desktop to avoid the annual upgrade trap I've fallen into, but alas, I need the portability that only a laptop can provide.

 

That's interesting, how much did you add for the last upgrade to p650 counting that you sold your previous laptop?

 

Can anyone confirm if their 970m or 980m fluctuates between disabled(off) and enabled(on) when plugged-in and not in use (not gaming just monitoring through MSI Afterburner)? And is this normal? Cause here is how it looks like on my machine:

 

I've never used afterburner, but I have definitely noticed the light coming on when I wasn't doing anything at all. I'll try to remember to take a closer look tonight.

 

Sounds like an Optimus issue, try doing a a reinstall of the drivers by cleanly removing the previous ones, using DDU or equivalent

 

Thanks. Do mean to reinstall Optimus or the whole Display driver for both HD4600 AND GTX980m?

 

There's no need to reinstall, same happens here even with GPU-Z, it's just the way it works when on desktop.

Try it with Geforce Experience open in the background.

 

Nevermind my previous post, aveyer is right. I went too fast on that one, my apologies...

 

I figured it be the case. I just find it a strange occurrence since I have not experience this if on battery, silent mode, battery saving mode. I'm just wondering how this affects the lifespan of the CPU and the 980m in the long run.

 

By having the application on and monitoring the GPU you are turning it on, this wont happen without a monitoring program active.

 

Good point. But now we wont be sure that this is not happening in the background because we can't use any monitoring software in this case. If using a monitoring software can cause the GPU to turn on, then why not turn it on instead of toggling on and off? Why does this not happen when on battery? And why does this not happen when on silent mode both plugged in and on battery?

 

As I posted in another thread:



(It was time to upload this image as this comes up so much).

 

I'll try that when I get home. Thanks for the info.

 

Hi guys,

I've just ordered my P650SE and can't wait to get it. I managed to get 16GB ddr3 at 1866 for free - score. A little IT knowledge is dangerous - my question is if the i7 CPU is set to 1600 how does the system take advantage of the 1866 ram?

 

hence why I only got the basic 16gig ram. lol.

 

Wat?
RAM works by adding a multiplier to the general bus speed of the system, which is 100MHz. It is not dependent on your CPU speed, really.

 

Yes, bit of a Schrodinger's cat situation!

 

Pretty sure it does make an actual (if small) real world difference, though it depends what you're doing., and it certainly makes a difference (though again relatively small) in benchmark tests, at least it did when I compared running my Corsair RAM at 1600Mhz and it's rated 2133Mhz (had to use the Prema Mod bios to get it to run at more than 1866Mhz, though). Given that the price difference for me between 1600Mhz and 2133Mhz RAM was pretty minimal, I thought "why not" when buying it. Given that you didn't pay anything for 1866Mhz RAM - bonus!

 

Prema's Mod lets you overclock the RAM to 1866 or higher.

 

I was under the impression that you could put whatever RAM you wanted into the machine, but it would only run at 1600 MHz because the bus is locked to that speed, and that you could only actually use the RAM at its rated speed if you used Prema's BIOS. I suppose overclocking 1600MHz RAM to 1866 or higher would be made possible, too, but that wasn't what I understood the purpose of the BIOS to be.

 

No the chip will attempt to run an spd up to 2133mhz (for haswell at least). If it's not stable you have to pair it with slower ram to get it to boot.

 

My HyperX 1866MHz RAM ran at 1866MHz right out of the box, FWIW.

 

My Corsair 2133Mhz RAM ran at 1866Mhz on the stock XMG bios, though I need the Prema Mod to run it at it's rated 2133Mhz

 

Mine kicks straight in at 2133mhz with my 4870HQ.

 

That's a different case, though, on the downside doesn't the 4870HQ generate more heat that the 4720HQ, however?

 

I just noticed something else on my new P650se. I'm not sure if it was doing this before but I noticed that when I turn on my computer (when it's completely off) I can see the logo without the back light then it turns on a few seconds later. Is this normal with this laptop or IPS screen? It doesn't do this on my other laptop and my desktop.

Here is the video:

 

First time I've seen that pointed out. If thats the only time it lags I wouldnt worry about it. But if its too much of a concern to you it could probably be sent in under warranty.

 

Mine is tuned to an undervolt at 3.7ghz and seems quite happy at that.

 

can anyone confirm what bios get rid of lag? is it 307? because my reseller is just giving me 306

 

Are you talking about the similar experience I am having?

 

Anything above the stock bios should be fine. If it is the same lag as was reported several times in this thread, then remember to update bios, EC AND Hotkey software. You can have a look at Prema's signature or website for the links, or at XMG webpage for p650 support

 

i really didnt backread much (been busy) but im having stuttering in games. a few mentioned awhile backthat it is solved by a bios (and not a vbios) update

 

i just updated to bios 307 and the lag is still there. i guess ill have to update ec and hotkey too

 

im now on bios 07, ec 03 and hotkey v3.16.29. i have the files to flash ec to 06.

my question is, is it safe to flash kcb/ec 06 over bios 07, or do i have to revert back to bios 06 before flashing the kcb/ec. the reason i ask is because with older clevo models, it was important to flash the kcb/ec first before the system bios update.

 

If done separately always flash the EC first then only the BIOS.
The stock and Mod packages on my blog install matching BIOS and EC versions in one go.
So just use those and it'll be smooth sailing.

 

i already flashed my bios to 07. so do i have to revert back to bio 06 (the original) before flashing the ec?the bios and ec files came separately.

i actually have your modded bios saved but im using a local reseller bios/ec, which basically a clevo bios with his logo. ive read before that it isnt recommended to flash a sager bios/ec over a clevo one.

 

Just flash the EC then.
The Sager-Clevo BIOS/EC thing is a myth...A company rep downgraded a users system and blamed the resulting brick on the user using a Clevo BIOS/EC, while the real problem was only the downgrade.

Simple human error...

 

What vbios must I get to OC properly and safely? Is Prema's Vbios the only only available vbios for the np8652?

 

Probably will be unless there are others at tech inferno.

As for overclocking safely that's up to you.

 

So my screen problem has progressed. Rather than flickering, the screen got stuck on black:


And upon rebooting, the discoloration at the edges of the screen stayed for a few minutes:

I assume I will have to send the laptop in for repairs, but does anybody have any ideas what would cause this? If it is something on my end, I would like to know so I won't do it again in the future.

 

You have to use the vBIOS for this model, which comes as part of the Mod BIOS package (don't use MXM or random versions).

 

I am now on day 7 in testing my new P650SG and am experiencing a lot of stuttering in game like D3 and The Witcher 3 (Entertainment preset, AC power). I have attach a screenshot of MSI afterburner showing GPU usage fluctuating all over the place and never in a straight line. Can anyone please help me how to fix this?

 

Update the bios and ec
And make sure you have the PC in performance settings and not on balanced, also the nvidia control panel settings must be in performanxe and not in adaptive

 

Did a 3 hour binge in d3 the other day without a single hiccup. I play with 16gb, a ssd drive with the game on High settings.

 

High Performance setting should fix that and is best for gaming. Entertainment is more for media like movies.

 

Ditto. XD

 

Another thumbs up to xoticpc, my laptop has been having severe LCD problems (screen flickering off/on, random color bars, just an unusable mess) as a result of a defective LVDS cable. They shipped me a new one promptly and I should have it by Wednesday.