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Or will just order it for you at least.

 

I am also interested in a new LED bezel replacement since my current one has one hinge broken in a corner (the inside of the bezel near the hinge is broken and pulling down the lid makes the entire laptop back turn up, the plastic gets very bent and I can see inside the screen fixing between the bezel and the back), and the solution I received is to replace both the bezel and the back of the laptop (so the entire thing in which the screen itself is put).

 

Sounds like there might also be a hinge disconnected from the chassis? It's need dismantling and investigating to find what parts you need.

 

I want to change my killer 1435 to intel 9260 or something better maybe wifi 6. Just wanted to ask and confirm it they will work once more.

Killer 1435 started loosing connection for some reason in linux and windows, not sure why. I just want to get rid of it asap.
Thanks

Edit:This is what i thought of getting https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B079QJQF4Y/ref=psdc_430513031_t1_B07G42J6KQ

Not sure if I should avoid vPro since i never used it

 

Only thing to consider really is the AX200 or AX1650 depending on your software vendor of choice.

 

I just want the one that has the least problems. I keep having issues with Killer 1435

 

Both the same chipset but if you want intel go the ax200.

 

A couple of my keys stopped working. Hinge is broken on one but the other can be pressed down and returns easily but sometimes doesn't respond. Will I need to replace the whole keyboard or is there a different fix? I'm not very confident in dismantling the whole laptop, but I saw in the manual that the keyboard should be able to be replaced without that.

Follow-up question. I looked around at replacement KBs and found one for reasonable price but it's a latin-american layout. Will it fit in my laptop that's north-american (I'm not worried about key-cap layout which, if I understand correctly can be replaced/swapped around)? Budget's tight so the $20 difference in favor of the LA keyboard helps.

 

The keyboard will fit but may have different printed key layouts and possibly different physical layout.

 

Thank you for your response. Do you think that it would be different even if I switch the keyboard/language settings in windows? I'm currently using the EN keyboard with different language settings and it works fine (e.g. Z and Y are swapped), but the Latin American one has an extra key next to left shift so I'm not sure.

 

Depends on the layout, cant say I have memorized them all. I suggest you do a google comparison.

 

Thanks. I replaced the keyboard with a new (genuine) one, but the problem is not solved. It behaves exactly the same :-(
Judging by how fragile and flaky these cable connectors are, I am suprised it even works at all.

Problem remains that half of the keypressed are not registered, some only very slowly. Not really bound to any specific keys.

EDIT: I disonnected and reconnected the keyboard. But also disconnected the battery for a while. Now it seems to work fine. The keyboard was sold to me as a genuine one, but I don't think it is. The narrow cable was located on the wrong side of the wider one, the colour is slightly off, key surface and press feels different. Damn imitators :-S

 

Now that my keyboard is working again, I am using my laptop again... And I notice that two finger scrolling is not working. Is this a hardware limitation? Can't remember if it worked before because I haven't used it for 2 years I already removed the device incl drivers and let windows 10 reinstall the driver. It does give me the synaptic driver configuration options with two finger scrolling (even one finger scrolling), but it doesn't work.

 

Have you tried doing it at the edge of the area?

 

@Prema please help! I've been trying to find your modded BIOS for my laptop for YEARS now! You are a hero and I beg you to send me your wonderful BIOS!

My laptop is the Clevo P65_P67SG
Intel i7-4720HQ
980M

 

I need some more help! Prema graciously gave me the BIOS, and it worked!

However, I don't think the vBIOS worked. When I followed the instructions and the black screen came up, I think I saw ERROR before it closed down, and when I restarted and opened up Afterburner the 980m isn't even there any more! Just the Intel HD 4600. What should I do?

EDIT: It was disabled in Device Manager for some reason? Any way I can check if the vBios was successful?

 

Read the version in gpuz.

 

Maybe someone can help, just in case Prema is busy.

I got his vBIOS working and confirmed! Hurrah! But now trying to benchmark on Heaven at default speed turns off my laptop, saying the GPU is at 92c. That's never happened before and I only put new paste in 4 days ago, and RDR2 never even got above 65c.

Maybe Heaven just thinks it's 92c but it's wrong? Will try 3D Mark

https://imgur.com/a/ACR7SMq

https://imgur.com/a/TtyxWp9

EDIT: Something is definitely up! My temps reached 90c just putting Dead or Alive Venus Vacation on! Has my card been OC'd without me realizing?

https://imgur.com/a/S2dJWeN

https://imgur.com/a/tUBHOpF

EDIT: NVIDIA Inspector readout after 1 minute of Dead or Alive https://imgur.com/a/ROwu5oi

 

Vbios can have new defaults. I would suggest making sure idle temps are normal and the paste job is ok.

 

I second the notion of thinking about the paste job. Was the repaste tested prior to the vbios flash or were they done at the same time?

 

Paste job was done on Sunday, prior to the vBIOS flash. Been playing RDR2 since, no probs, the temp never went above 70c. Paste job is good!

Idles at about 50c

 

I have Prema's vbios flashed as well and everything on NV Inspector matches yours so you are not overclocked from the looks of it. Fans kicking up as usual? Only thing I think I had to do after flashing was to install nvidia drivers again for it to find the 980m as the dev id changes and it has to find it again for all to be happy - but it's been a very long time since I flashed. Hope you find your solution. I haven't had any trouble with the modded vbios and I haven't overclocked yet as no need for now.

edit.. just noticed you idling at 50C.. seems high. When not gaming mine is running 35C and I have the 980m as my default graphics not the intel crap video. You indeed might want to repaste even though I know you said done just 4 days ago.. worth checking again. Running heaven it sits around 68-70C if memory serves. FWIW

 

Flashed back to my old vBIOS and THANK GOD. Back to normalcy and idling at 39c. I don't know what happened but it just did not work for me! Fans on max, good paste job, no dice!

For fun here's what I spent the day doing, 3D Mark Sky Diver results! Just look at the difference between Prema vBIOS and stock:

Modded vBIOS 82c (Intel NC)
15 746 score

Modded vBIOS 82c (Intel OC)
15 123

Modded vBIOS 135/200 85c (Intel OC)
16 308

Modded vBIOS 135/0 85c (Intel OC)
16 267 64.30 FPS

Modded vBIOS 145/0 85c (Intel OC)
16 507 64.56 FPS

Modded vBIOS 155/0 85c (Intel OC)
15 901 62.60 FPS

Modded vBIOS 165/0 85c (Intel OC)
16 336 64.13 FPS

Modded vBIOS 175/0 85c (Intel OC)
15 775 63.42 FPS

Modded vBIOS 185/0 85c (Intel OC)
16 213 65.36 FPS

Modded vBIOS 195/0 85c (Intel OC)
CRASH

=======

Modded vBIOS 185/20 85c (Intel OC)
16 302 64.27 FPS
16 264 60.40 FPS

Modded vBIOS 185/40 83c (Intel OC)
15 402 62.23 FPS

Modded vBIOS 185/80 83c (Intel OC)
15 925 63.47 FPS

Modded vBIOS 185/120 83c (Intel OC)
15 291 62.01 FPS

Modded vBIOS 185/200 83c (Intel OC)
CRASH

=======
Modded vBIOS 185/180 82c (Intel OC)
12 989 64.54 FPS

Modded vBIOS 185/180 82c (Intel OC)
15 061 63.84 FPS

NORMAL VBIOS

18 238 62.35 FPS

Red Dead Redemption 2 Prema vBIOS

Not OC
Lowest FPS 10
HIGHEST FPS 61
AVERAGE 30
Crashed right at results screen so couldn't get full results

OC 185/20
13.022
65.0504
32.1337


OC 135/200 84c
12.5
62.34
31.63

Normal
LOWEST FPS 22.83
HIGHEST FPS 70.9
AVERAGE 38.37

 

The modded vBIOS unlocks the power limit, that’s why it runs hotter even at stock. The stock vBIOS can’t even hold the normal boost clock without throttling due to power limit...

 

Yes normally the boost clock is just that, a boost and it settles between the base and max boost in games.

 

I understand, but even at stock with the fans at max, performance was much worse in RDR2 and that's with a new (and I'm sure decent) paste job. It's just weird how it didn't work for my laptop! I do have new CPU and GPU fans coming, maybe that'll make a difference? I might try again.

 

Prema Mod vBIOS at stock clocks beats overclocked stock vBIOS.
If your system can't handle the heat overclocking the Mod will just cause it to thermal throttle below stock clocks.

 

Maybe I should add/replace thermal pads on the 980m when the new fans arrive? That might help! Are there any pictures or measurements for the correct thickness of pad out there?

 

A 0.5mm pad and 1mm pad will let you get the perfect fit with a little stacking.

 

Just so you can have reference I ran skydiver bench (man.. been forever since I goofed around with this stuff!). My results with Prema bios and vbios at stock clocks is:

22118 / 72.20FPS combined test

So as Prema pointed out you will see gains without even an OC on GPU. Good luck in your endeavors!! Have fun tweaking.

 

In a way power unlocking is a form of being overclocked and as you see there are consequences that are very similar.

 

Wow! Look at the score! I didn't come close to that, even with overclocking! The heat must have been throttling my system to death!

I'll try again when the new fans come. Ill install them plus pads plus heat sinks for the ram/M2 and report back!

 

I've been looking at this replacement heatsink and can't see how it's an improvement over the original? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32823111224.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.77bb4c4db7GF5l

Could someone cleverer than me please explain?

 

I don't think there is much of a functional difference for your machine. There might have been some power circuitry in the new layout to cool there, I'm just trying to remember.

 

The cutout is because there are a couple capacitors on the P65xSx board that would get in the way.

You can see in the comparison pics how it has more copper than the original and connects directly to the fan shroud.

 

I have the revised cooler. It keeps from thermal throttle when stress testing. I think I posted it ages ago. Below is a stress test for your reference. I know with the old cooler it would hit the thermal limit. And the new one has more mass directly connected to the fan instead of only the heatpipes and transfers heat quicker.. FWIW.

edit.. this is with fans set to automatic. Added another pic with 10 min stress test with fans set to automatic. As you see no thermal throttle. Still have issues with current/power throttle but is what it is.

 

Ah, thanks! Might be worth picking up! Since repasting the CPU I've had zero thermal throttling (used to have it a LOT) but even when I tried undervolting the current throttling still kicks in. Impossible to get rid of it I think

 

You know lots, let me ask you.

I've been doing a spot of undervolting today, for fun. Please note DoA Venus Vacation is running in the background here. Look at this first pic (it is NOT undervolted yet, I didn't click "apply"). Look at that awful EDP throttling! I hate it!

https://imgur.com/a/mKG7XK6

So now I undervolt to -.040v, and the EDP throttling is not as bad:

https://imgur.com/a/0AgjVwE

So now I got it to -070v (it crashed at -080v) and it's still throttling a bit, and the temps haven't seemed to have gone down much.

https://imgur.com/a/UH1ngRE

Any tips or suggestions? Anything else to tinker with? Do you see anything MESSED UP in those pics? I'm not great at this at all!

 

Bump the current to 100-110A, and repaste your laptop, given the model it(and so its age) it might be needing a proper clean and repaste.

 

I cleaned and repasted it last week! Bumping the current to 100A removed the EDP throttling! But now I get power limiting throttling haha

https://imgur.com/a/1KnGaKw

 

Power limit throttling is expected, its a locked 45Watts CPU, its just saying that it was using more than 45Watts after the PL2 timer run out(aka the turbo boost timer). You can bump that all the way to 96 seconds, you have it set at 28 secs, or just use TS, download the extra dll, enable PowerCut option and it will run at 3.5Ghz all core all day(at least my MSI does, but I already had it running all core full turbo due to a tweaked IA curve slope in BIOS, so it reports less power and it never really throttles).

EDIT:
What paste did you use, and how is the contact between die and heatsink? Still feels a bit hot.

 

Thanks for all the info! Is it still hot? It's a lot cooler now. I think I used the right amount of Noctua NT-H1

 

So my fans came today, time to (hopefully) fix this GPU!




Here's what we're working with:




Some weird greasy residue on this bits, I have no clue. Cleaned them though:




This has seen better days, left it alone:




This... might explain why the GPU was hot. Clearly not enough paste (I SWEAR I used the right amount):




OH GOD no wonder I thought the fans weren't working




Clean it




Paste it




Finished! Nice new copper bits




Goodbye old friends




DoA Venus Vacation Stock, pre-clean:
86c

Doa Venus Vacation Stock, post-clean:
55c


I'll try the Prema vBIOS tomorrow!

 

Sigh I'll never understand why overclocking with XTU actually gives me a worse score in 3D Mark Sky Diver

Active cores: x38 x37 x36 x36
Turbo Boost Max Power 57W
Processor Current Limit 100A
Turbo Boost Power WIndow 40 seconds

3D mark score = 300 points worse

EDIT: undervolt by 005v puts the score up to stock, lol

 

Update: remember how the first time I flashed Prema's vBios, it idled at 55c and crashed whenever I played Red Dead? Well now it idles at 37c and handled Red Dead just fine! Still baffled by OC'ing the CPU, just gonna leave it at stock

 

The residue is left by the thermal pads usually, it's just part of their composition.

 

Hello All !

Hope your going well,

I've got the P651SG with 980M and I7 4720 HQ

Well temp went crazy, I did repast CPU and GPU (paste was overdone)

Then I looked to optimise fans and installed hotkey but It don't working, it's in the taskbar but can only see it with miniature do you have an idea ?

@Prema I just seen your incredible work while reading the thread, do you think I am worthy to install your custom bios ? Well I am not expert at all but I think I understood It could help me to keep my laptop for a little while by allowing me to run game better.

Thank you so much all in advance for your help

 

Did you check for a carpet as the above pictures had?

 

I don't understand what you mean by carpet ?

As above, I oppened, cleaned dust, removed old and apply new paste.

The main issue is the fact that I can't control my fans. I feel like the CPU fan stay too low even when I reach 92° I don't understand why : (

 

Look at the picture under:

OH GOD no wonder I thought the fans weren't working

In the post above.