*** Official Clevo P67xRP6-G/P67xRS-G (Sager NP8172/8173) Owner's Lounge ***

Looks good. Will cop that and a 960 Pro (RIP Wallet) and some RAM and I should be good to go.

 

Finally got around to trying this, super easy to get it off. I just unclipped and reclipped the top left corner and, voilà, it was fixed just like that! Can't believe I let that stupid yellow splotch annoy me so much when it was a 5 minute fix away. Thanks for the suggestion, you changed my life! (OK maybe not but I'm still pretty hyped rn)

 

I got some time to work out the root cause of the problems ive been having sometimes getting a blue screen and stuttering when using laptop screen and an external monitor.

Anyway

For dual channel mode can both dimms be placed in the underside of the laptop or do i have to place 1 under the keyboard area?

If using 2 m.2 drives what is expected to happen? Will it just not work or will it just bottleneck when using both drives at once?

If i just have one for a storage drive will it be fine?

UPDATE: will i have any problems using a 2tb firecuda SHDD? I belive its 7mm?

 

The dimms are paired together sitting together so have two modules sitting side by side in the same side for dual channel.

A 7mm HDD will work fine.

 

Thanks. Does the p670rs-g support 2 satas and 1 m.2? I'm thinking of coverting one of the m.2s to a sata and buy the seagate too. If not maybe use it on another pc as a sata.

I'm going to test each dimm for problems with only 1 m2.

What would be a good test for cpu and cpu?

Is prime95 still used?

And for gpu i read people warn not using furmark anymore so what would be a good test?

 

If you run 2x M.2 SDDs (SATA III) then it won't bottleneck. The only thing you can't do is run 1x NVMe/PCIe M.2 and 1x SATA III M.2 SSD in the second slot, this is because the chipset HSIOs are shared across both the M.2 slots and when you connect an NVMe/PCIe device to M.2 slot 1 it reassigns the second M.2 slot HSIOs to M.2 slot 1 ;-)

 

As above so 2x 7mm 2.5" ssd plus m.2 pci-e is fine for max storage and speed.

 

You can use Aida64 stability tests. You can also combine with Heaven. Furmark is a no go.

 

Excellent info XMG amd Meaker Thanks

Really aida64, wow it's come a long way? How long should AIDA64 be run and with what tests?

If i remember correctly prime 95 used to be like a day on blend and another on small ffts.

 

Never use Furmark. Unless you are psycho and using a desktop, not a laptop.
I always test CPU for at least 1h after OC/uV.
Prime is fine too, but currently he might not be able to detect some instabilities on new-gen CPU's (tested with 6700K, friend has same issue with his 6700K in desktop and I've spotted same situations around forum here).

 

If yoo want push it to the max, follow this Guide Up to yoo how long you will let it run. For lower Stress on hardware with lower power usage... Check the other boxes like stress Cpu, stress Cashe and stress System Memory. You can combine with Heaven if you uncheck Stress GPU. Remember follow up the temp. Not nice with fried hardware Also the paid Futuremark software like 3DM Suite can be used... You can customize tests so they can run in loop.

 

Yes, lets avoid running power viruses on mobile hardware

 

I was reading a post you made about this HSIO issue, Really sucks that i can't find it anymore, Did they ever let you post the diagrams? I find this issue interesting. And it would be interesting at least to me to actually test the loss of performance with the bottleneck since theres what 10gb bandwidth available. That may not be enough for two nvme / pcie drives but that should be enough for a sata based m.2 and a nvme /pcie shouldn't it? In theory at least

 

It's not always a question of sheer bandwidth but lane allocation and how granular you can be with it.

 

Well i still dont understand it 100%. I'll go with recommended settings and leave it at that.

 

Please see the attached image (this is HM170 PCH but it's the same for the HM175):



- HSIO 15/16 (SATA 0 and SATA 1) assigned to M.2 SSD slots
- HSIO 21/22 (SATA 2 and SATA 3) assigned to 2.5" HDD bays
- HSIO 15/16/17/18 (which are PCIe 9/10/11/12) assigned to the primary M.2 slot (the PCIe x4 capable slot)

When a PCIe x4 module is installed, HSIO 15 and 16 switch from SATA 0 and SATA 1 to PCIe 9 and 10, as a result of this both SATA 0 and 1 are disabled hence the secondary M.2 slot is disabled.

Hope this clarifies

 

That's super helpful, thanks.

 

Excellent info thanks.

In my case ATM i have an m.2 nvme in the first port and a m. 2 sata in the second and it works. So i guess some chipsets disable the port while others let it run in bottleneck mode?

 

If you have a stock BIOS with this chassis, HM170 etc etc then the 2nd M.2 slot should be disabled. If it's not disabled, then either there has been a secret BIOS update which didn't mention this solution in the changelog, or you're not using the stock BIOS which allows the 1st M.2 to be forced on SATA III rather than auto-detect PCIe.

 

So on a P650HS-G if one installs one nvme m.2 drive, how many more drives could be installed realistically (2.5in sata and m.2)?

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The 2.5" bays are not affected by the M.2 switching, so they will function the same no matter if you have 2x SATA III M.2 or 1x PCIe M.2.

Maximum configuration for storage is:

- 2x M.2 SATA III AND 2x 2.5" SATA III

OR

- 1x M.2 PCIe AND 2x 2.5" SATA III

 

That's weird as the bios is stock 1.05.06 I havnt messed with flashing at all. Yet lol

Can someone try this. Play a full screen video from say netflix on the laptop screen and move your mouse around on an external screen. Does the mouse stutter a bit? I'm thinking this problem is due to gsync and nvidia drivers? As the stuttering was much worse with older drivers, and with gsync off i dont get stuttering but i get wierd stutter artifacts on the video. Which is hard to explain but seem to be occuring at the same intervals as the mouse stuttering. I use this kind of setup all the time on my old desktop i7 920 system for studying. It sucks that its an issue on a much newer system like this.

 

Strange! What read and write speeds are you seeing from your NVMe drive?

 

Thanks for the info. Good to know.

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I'll do some benchmarks on both drives and post results in a couple of days.

 

You can have a 7 and 9.5mm SATA III drive, correct?

Also, was playing BF1 on auto settings and CCC reported 87C for the CPU and 90C for the GPU. Is CCC accurate? Those seem like dangerous temps to me, but the laptop was on a desk well ventilated. It was hot enough at the Onkyo logo to the point where I couldn't touch it. Is this dangerous? What's going on?

 

CCC should read correct temp.
Maybe time for cleaning inside the laptop. As well time for re-paste. Thermal paste don't live forever.

 

Yeah, I've actually never opened it up so it's probably overdue. I just got it with the stock Sager paste, what do you recommend? Also, it'd be great if there was a video or tutorial or something on applying paste.

 

Recommended Thermal Paste. For guides how to applying paste... Look into YouTube.

 

Cool, thanks. Are there any irregularities with this laptop I should be aware of when repasting? Or am I good to just follow a generic video?

 

I'm not the correct person to ask. As I haven't this laptop. But if you follow a few YouTube videos and are careful in your work, it will be good. Look on more than a single video as a last advice. Good luck

 

Cool, will get some ICD shipped in and do that soon, 90C+ is ridiculous. As for cleaning this laptop, IK you don't have this specific model, but anything to look out for in general?

 

Buy canned air for cleaning inside your laptop(heatsink grills and fans). + Isopropanol with minimum 75% for cleaning - remove old paste on cpu die and heatsink.

 

I've recently bought the acer predator xb271hu bmiprz 27, but using it seems to cause massive slowdowns from the system. Almost to the point where it freezes, then "fast forwards" to where it should be. Happens especially when gaming. I'm using the laptop's mini display port.

What could it be?

 

Have you checked loading of the system and lowering the refresh rate to 120hz just to test it out?

 

I'll try that! Should v-sync still be turned on in games?

 

No, turn it off when using G-sync.

 

87C cpu is on higher end for heavy use. 90C gpu is danger zone, surely will decrease the life span of your gpu.

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Turn vsync off on games and nvidia panel. Instead use fast sync.

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Worst part is, I've let it get that high on multiple occasions because I wasn't checking temps at the time. Now that I think about, I'm sure it has gotten up to those temps 7 or 8 times. All seems well for now, hopefully nothing happens...

EDIT: Apparently no need to worry... XOTIC says those temps are fine. 95-97°C is the danger zone for the NP8173 on GPU & CPU.

 

Certainly short trips that high wont hurt much, if you can keep it lower by having the back raised slightly and on a flat surface then so much the better.

 

???

That is good to hear though, it's only ever been that high cumulatively for 2 hours maybe.

 

Hi there does anyone changed Thermal pads in their RS? If someone did can you tell me their thickness?

 

I was busy with end of term stuff, but anyway here the benchmarks.

I tested both drives independently and then both at the same time.

It was interesting to see during the simultaneous test that the 4K-Q32TI Read was nearly identical on both drives until the final test were the SSD actually beat the NVME (clear bottleneck?).

What do think of the results?

 

@To2Kool2 Can you tell me the exactl models of the two drives you have conducted the above tests with please?

 

Sure,

mydigitalssd bpx 480gb
crucial mx300 525gb m.2

 

Raising the back by the height of a coke bottle cap can help the fans draw air in more easily.

 

Thanks for the tip, will find something to prop it up with.

 

Hope you can get to the bottom of why this happens. Will be very interesting to see if the limitation can be broken, that would be awesome...

 

It's the main reason why notebook cooling stands can help Then fans on them tend to do nothing.