*** Official Clevo P67xRP6-G/P67xRS-G (Sager NP8172/8173) Owner's Lounge ***

I changed pads when I received mine from RMA. These are the pads that came with mine; the white ones are gummy ones and the blue ones are stiffer (I know it sounds funny, but you get the idea):



But I didn't like how the heat sink was sitting on the GPU (you can actually see how a few pads have too much pressure and others have almost no pressure), so I ended up using this scheme (which could not suit your case, so don't take this as the absolute solution, you must try and see what suits your case...):



Here you can see the pads I still have, the blue ones on the upper left are the ones I changed from stock thickness to custom. The others are the stock ones I still have (as you can see, I've lost one, that's why I've put "??" on the photos above, as I'm not sure about that pad...)

 

THX for info I will try both configs then.

 

My Kryonaut should be here in a couple hours. Anyone have any good videos or tutorials about repasting this laptop or in general?

 

Is anyone getting high idle temps in Discrete mode? This is soo annoying, and it happens randomly.

One time I'll be watching youtube and twitch at the same time, and my machine will remain dead quiet. My GPU temps will stay around 40-45 degrees and therefore the ramps won't turn up.

I then turn off all my apps, and make my computer go idle where I don't do anything... Why on earth is my GPU turning up to 53 C? This makes the fans go way too loud and fast, especially for something that's doing nothing?

Does this make sense to anyone, I have no idea why it's happening. There are 3 programs used by the GPU, the winstoreapp.exe, microsoftphotos.exe, and video.ui.exe.

I've basically turned them off in the nvidia control panel.

I'm honestly at a loss for words.... For two days in discrete mode things were working perfectly, now the fans are just running high again and they're not even using anything.... Why is this machine so damn bipolar.

 

It's a Clevo.

Finally got around to installing MSI Afterburner, so, wanted to share some temps from BF1 on Ultra on a regular desk.

This is before my repaste which I will do when the machine stops feeling like the sun. 92 GPU is OK I guess (still terrible but not deadly) but CPU is 100!!!!! That's definitely deadly, isn't it? If the repaste doesn't fix it I'll have to RMA this thing, this is plain dangerous.

 

Yeah, fair enough. Sigh, some days this is the best machine I've ever used, sometimes I want to throw it across the room. There's no in between.... Can I ask if you're using Discrete or MSHybrid?

Discrete works perfectly for gaming. And this past week has worked perfectly too. However, now the F*cking GPU temps increased to around 53, literally doing nothing... I haven't changed a single thing either.

As for MSHybrid, it's perfect, except for that fact that gaming is near impossible as I keep getting BSOD after pretty much every game cause Intel graphics card and Nvidia are ****ing it up. Sigh, everytime I think I'm close to having this machine perfected, stupid **** like my GPU temps increasing for no reason happens....

 

I am using discrete. Have been ever since I got this machine in October and always have gotten 90+ CPU and GPU when doing any kind of gaming. I just always assumed it was normal. Your anecdote about the duality of the machine is so true lmao... it's so fast sometimes and sometimes it shuts off due to temps or crawls to a halt. Not to mention the myriad of rage inducing problems with WiFi and the screen turning off every 15 minutes no matter what. In the end, no matter how much you paid for it, you have to remember this is made by a crappy Chinese company, no matter how much Sager wants to brag about their quality, at the end of the day they are a Clevo reseller.

 

If you use HWmonitor, can you please check your idle temps, i.e when nothing else is turned on except for HWMonitor to check the temps? Also, for your Nvidia control panel, can you enable GPU activity in the icon notification area? Here is the link if you haven't done it : http://ccm.net/faq/41241-nvidia-display-gpu-activity-icon-in-the-notification-area

Like it's so odd... 2 days ago it was just fine, now my GPU is just ramping up??

And like in my first post, here are three things that my GPU are using apparently -> winstoreapp.exe, microsoftphotos.exe, and video.ui.exe

Thanks!

 

I'm idling at 50-55, same as you.


Just repasted with Kryonaut. Played BF1 again, got 90C GPU and 94 CPU, which is a 2C drop on GPU and 6C drop on the CPU, that's OK I guess. Will test again after a while to give the paste some time to settle in.

Here are some pics of what it was like with stock Sager paste (cleaned the CPU off):

 

Repaste with Kryonaut, and get a cooling pad. Higher temps are normal on a gaming laptop. After extended gaming sessions in a cool room, I'm running at about 85c. I've seen it go higher on warm days with no AC.

 

(if that was a reply to the other guy then disregard this lol..)

 

Mine's got to be the coolest one over here then....(logs from hwinfo), with the notebook flat on a table, no cooling pad or coke caps, discrete mode and good ol' arctic mx-4 and arctic pads (so... nothing fancy then... that's what I had over here when repasted the last time):

Idle:



Iddle long term (w10 update on the background I guess...):



Youtube:



Youtube full screen 1080p:



VLC playing video full screen, 1080p:



And summer has already arrived here:

 

Lol, I wish it was that cool here. 100F is a good day for us this time of year...

 

I am still using old style thermal paste, IC Diamond (I dont trust myself using Kryonaut) and about a month ago noticed some higher than normal temps and thought, well its been 6 months time for a repaste anyway.

Took the components off to find that when i first did the repaste i used way to much which appears to have been affecting my temps significantly.
Long story short, used much less and now have idle temps around 40-45. I have been building my own rigs for the past 20 years and still make mistakes like this so its always worth revisiting what you have done in the past to check its not just technique.

 

Kryonaut ain't Liquid Metal. Try it next time. Same also for Gelid Extreme.

 

My Bad, i should have done a bit more research before making that assumption. I will take another look at some of the pasting guides on here again.

 

Liquid metal is very distinctive, it does not behave like paste (funnily enough more like a liquid, which is why you have to be so careful).

 

Yeah, you might've been thinking about Conductonaut.

On another note, my machine now with Kryonaut idles in the high 40s now that the paste has set in. Gaming is in the lower 90s but doesn't go much higher. Older games (NFS Rivals) are at 80.

 

That seems high. My P670RS idled in the mid-30s and only cracked 80 during a full AIDA64 stress test. Gaming, it never went higher than the mid-70s.

 

It's better than the 100s I was getting. Anyways, anyone I've officially talked to from Sager or XOTIC says 90-95 during intense gaming is normal. Might just be bad luck, I do envy your temps.

 

Worth noting that it's summer now so your ambient temp is probably higher now therefore CPU and GPU temps are also higher than usual, at least for me. On average I observe an increase of 6-7 degrees.

 

Envy the guy I sold the machine to. My new (used) MSI GT73 is about 10-15 degrees hotter under load. Once summer is over I'm probably going to have it repasted.

Dat GTX 1080, tho.


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Yeah, true.

That sucks about the temp increase, but that 1080 power tho…

Oh joy, add another problem to the mountain I've already had with this machine. Was just playing Everybody's Gone to the Rapture and it just shut off. Overheating? If it happens again consistently will RMA.

 

Some new additions just came in!
So, putting this stuff in was...interesting. So I take off the thousand screws and put everything in. Put the screws back, and the BIOS still shows 8GB, and then the computer just black screened after I tried rebooting, so time for unscrewing everything again (I should've learned my lesson at this point and booted it up without the backplate screwed in...but I didn't of course) So I mess around with the RAM and check the BIOS, hey, 16GB! Now let's check storage... 960 Evo that's good... where's the ADATA drive? Time to unscrew everything for the third time. So I take all the screws out of the storage bay and spend like 45 mins trying to comprehend how the top and bottom connectors are supposed to go in at the same time because the bottom one was sitting on top of the connector. I try to MacGyver some solutions and finally realized that if you put the bottom drive in, you can push down the top spring SATA connector. 3 hours in at this point, I think to myself, it's perfect, it'll all be worth it, nothing else can go wrong. Cue screwing everything in again and... it boots! Huzzah! Wait... what's that noise...no...the beeping of doom! I got that before when I opened the laptop up the first time and thought I bricked it lol. Quick Googling then led me to some critical fan issue, so I think that I probably accidentally knocked the fan power or data cable loose. You know what that means.... unscrewing 19 screws for the fourth time!! I open it up and everything is normal but I push in every connector, boot it up with the backplate off and.... it can't be... everything is registered in the BIOS, praise God!!!! So time to screw the thing in for the last time, 6 screws in and I notice some small screws.... the storage bay. At this point I almost throw the laptop across the room,but refrain and open it up again and screw the bay in then the backplate. At this point I am effectively deceased, that was five (!!!) damn hours with the carpal tunnel inducing screws. Oh well, at least it's all good now, I can enjoy my upgraded system


(The BIOS recognizes my 16GB but Windows still says 8, IDGAF anymore lol)

 

Curious, What does aida show? What does it show in safe mode?

 

Reboot fixed it, all good now. Windows recognizes 16GB. Just trying to figure out how to get the 960 as Boot Drive, Samsung's software keeps throwing a defrag error.
EDIT:
Happy to report that all storage and RAM is happily inside my NP8173! Here are some benchmarks for those interested:
Boot Up time (cold boot via power button): 00:24.39
Boot time is now sub-5 secs, this is why I bought an NVMe drive!

 

Hopefully @Meaker@Sager can clarify this:
The Sabre ESS DAC is used for headphone audio out the 3.5mm, but what does the TI Burr-Brown audio sticker signify? Burr-Brown Op-Amp then to the Sabre DAC? Haven't seen any official word on these. Also, what is driving the speakers? They sound pretty great so I am curious...

 

The op-amp is the actual driver. You can't put an analog device before the DAC in the signal chain. The speakers IIRC are just straight off the Realtek.

 

Yes it's all for the headphone jack. For those after even higher end audio I would recommend the optical out. The headphone jack is driven by:

ES9018 + LM49720 + OPA1622

 

Anyone gotten Viper4windows working on this laptop with win 10 x64 creators?

 

Good info, thanks.

 

I guess thats new trending fetish
Can just use one screw on each side = 2 (so metal back dont bend) - flip notebook back to normal boot up and if everything perfect - shut down and close up thingie with all screws properly....

 

You are welcome.

Yes a couple of screws is fine for testing and you are being gentle with it.

 

LOL, yeah definitely doing this in the future.

 

Striped that cheap left side screw on the hdd caddy after one use. Anyone know the size of it or a replacement?

 

M3x4mm if it's entering the HDD.

 

I'm wondering if anyone can help....
I recently bought this laptop off of Ebay and the thermals are super hot. I was getting 100 degrees for my CPU in Far Cry Primal and 90 degrees for my GPU. I undervolted my CPU to -125mv and repasted the CPU and GPU. Now I hover between 85 and 90 degrees for the CPU and still hit 90 degrees for the GPU in Far Cry Primal. Can anyone recommend some other fixes to help stabilize the temperatures?

 

I too saw a 3-4 degree C drop when I repasted with Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut. However, I still get mid-90s on taxing games such as Battlefield 1. I believe we just lost the lottery of heat-competent machines. Everyone I've ever talked to from my reseller or Sager says these temps are fine and won't decrease the life of the machine. Idk though...

 

What's interesting to me is the thermals outside of gaming. Undervolting dropped my CPU from 90 to 80 degrees in prime 95. The repaste brought it down to the high 60s. I understand that the GPU and CPU share a heatsink but it's still surprising to see the GPU's high thermals affect the CPU so much (20-25 degrees). It seems like we got unlucky with our GPU's and it's affecting the whole machine.

 

As most games on ultra goes over 100fps with g-sync off - anyone tried underclocking gpu with g-sync on - how that affects temps?
As i recall CCC lets you underclock gpu by 200mhz and vram by 300mhz - in theory it could give some temps drop - not sure tbf...

 

Unlucky with your GPU's? It have already a fixed maximum TDP (vendor dependent)You can use msi afterburner and lock the card's performance state to a lower operating voltage.

 

There will always be variation, however minute, in products mass manufactured...

 

Hello I have a sager p870dm and I just recently installed the stupid control center to have more control over my fans since 980 throttles a little. However my fans no longer spin automatically anymore. I have reinstalled/installed the control center multiple times and also I've tried to reset the profiles on control center and so far nothing changed it. So basically if I want to do anything without cooking my laptop, all I can do is put the fans at maximum speed. Please help!

 

Basically, you need to do NVRAM reset if i understood everything right. Some BIOSes have keybind for it but most not... i guess you will need to google it for your model...
first you can try if this works - just turn laptop off - unplug charger at the back of laptop and wait for like 30seconds, then plug in and start up and see if it works...
FN+G on startup? Was shortcut for some BIOSes?

 

Well you might get better help in the relevant forum for your machine...

Try Fn+D as well, though this might only be for the newer Sager machines.

 

I swear to god I didnt mean to crash on a wrong thread. I was desperate and was googling my problem ways to find almost/completely relevant thread that could help me with this issue. I googled something and then this thread came up on top so I thought people are probably talking about it. Fn+D or Fn+G what are they supposed to be? I only know that Fn+1 will set the speed to maximum and pressing again will switch it back to automatic which it doesnt for my case. However I dont believe how this helped but the 30 seconds trick worked...Thank you so much! Im still interested to know whatsup with those commands....

 

When you turn on your laptop hold FN and spam D - same way like you spam F2 to get into BIOS...
But thats not for every model and BIOS version - as i recall for P670RS it was added only in 1.05.07...
You just need to look up your laptop models thread and try your luck there or google "NVRAM reset"...

 

if you have OBSIDIAN BIOS:
Fn + G + PowerButton will reset GPU OC values

can try Fn + D + PowerButton too i guess - that might be proper way to activate reset - instead of spamming button (as i wrote earlier)

 

Anyone know if a Prema BIOS is out yet?

UPDATE: OOOOK, I see now that Prema now makes BIOS exclusively for certain Clevo re-sellers. Doesn't look like Sager is one of them. @Meaker@Sager Any chance of Sager supporting Prema BIOS in the future? I looooooved how overclock-able my last Sager was with it's Prema BIOS & VBIOS.

 

Undervolting guide:


Before watching this - i didnt know that Intel XTU saves all values you apply even after reboot/shut down...

Anyone uses ThrotleStop app for undervolting only or control SpeedStep and Boost for more effective MaxTemp control?