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    *** Official Clevo P67xRP6-G/P67xRS-G (Sager NP8172/8173) Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by D2 Ultima, Sep 11, 2016.

  1. south_valhalla

    south_valhalla Notebook Consultant

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    My 1TB drive just isn't cutting it anymore, and I'd like to get more storage than 2TB.
     
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    Do you know if we can add 2 x 7mm in it?
     
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    I guess so as I already have a 2.5 SSD and HDD installed.
     
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    I might do the same got a 1tb hdd too
     
  5. Lynx2017

    Lynx2017 Notebook Evangelist

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    Seagate makes a 5TB 2.5" drive that is 15mm, it fit just fine on my Clevo P670HS-G 17.3" gtx 1070 laptop, I had to bend up the second sata slot just slightly to get it to slide in, but yeah :D
     
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    First, I actually don't have a 2.4 SSD. It's a M.2 drive, with a 2.4 HDD. Duh. I should know that...

    Second, I bought the 7mm 4TB HDD but could not get it to fit. The bracket is big enough but the connection to the MOBO is really weird. It has 2 of those SATA ports pretty much one on top of the other. The 4TB drive bumps into the other port.

    Third, Maybe I could put 2 slimmer hard drives in there? Hmmmmmm.....
     
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    The new QLC SSDs will help in that regard somewhat.
     
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    Don't suppose you have a picture? Did you plug it into the sata slot closest to the keyboard, or the sata slot over (well, under if the laptop is the right way up) that?
     
  9. Lynx2017

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    I used to have a picture, @woodzstack might have a picture, he has the 5TB drive now, I gave it to him. I use a 2TB SSD now that was on sale for $220, Micron 1100, hoping it will last me a good ten years before it degrades in performance, because NVMe never impressed me.

    It went into the slot closest to the keyboard. screwed in just fine too, very secure. only issue was it took both sata slots, so the top one (farthest from the keyboard) was unusable. Was a cool setup though, I did it in January or Feb 2017, I probably was one of the first people in the world to have a 5TB HDD in that form factor of a laptop. lol
     
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    OK thanks for the info. Ja I tried it that way, but felt like I then needed to bend the other SATA slot too much. I wonder if I can find a slightly slimmer one, of if 2 slimmer drives could be fitted...
     
  11. Lynx2017

    Lynx2017 Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah the top slot bends a little upwards, but it never broke it. I'm pretty sure your chassis is the same as mine, P670 model
     
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    And I thought I was brave putting liquid metal in mine, and here you are bending the connectors haha I'll have to open it back up today, and have another look.

    Did you notice a difference in speed? These big 4TB HDD's are only 5200rpm and my 1TB is a 72ooRPM.
     
  13. JohnnyR8

    JohnnyR8 Notebook Guru

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    i noticed that EVERY game stutters (i mean not tearing) if the framerate drops, or is constant capped down, below the refresh rate of the monitor!

    It has nothing to do with ingame graphic settings or vsync = off and g-sync = off.
    very annoying if playing a shooter... as long as i am getting constant 75 frames per second the game is running butter-smooth on my g-sync 75 Hz monitor, but in the moment the FPS go down (example 60 FPS - i tested it by setting a constant framecap at 60 FPS) the smooth expierence is gone... aiming in a shooter gets a lottery...
    The same happens if i play in DISCRETE graphics-mode or HYBRID (here i cap at 50 FPS because in HYBRID the screen is running in 60 Hz instead of 75Hz).

    in my opinion the monitor has problems putting out anything below his own refresh rate...

    have someone already noticed this or are there any ideas how to fix it? (G-sync ON or vsync ON, or both and capping 3 FPS below under monitor refresh-rate doesn`t solve the problem)

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    P671 RS-G. Win 10 Pro, Intel i7 7820HK, Nvidia 1070 8GB, 75 Hz g-sync panel
     
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    G-sync is off in hybrid mode and the Intel GPU is controlling it so if it's the same for both then it would be down to either the display or cable most likely.
     
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    nope, my 5400rpm 5TB in the laptop was still transferring files at around 180 MB/s sometimes over 200, NVMe was my boot drive at the time, so i never really noticed any slow downs. Any active game I was playing i transferred to NVMe drive, the 5TB was purely for storage and mobility at the time, which I no longer need

    head into the BIOS and make sure you are on DISCRETE for the gpu, no intel HD graphics. these laptops are so picky, I make sure I do clean install of OS and all drivers with the BIOS on Discrete and I never switch to hybrid or install Intel graphics drivers. I have 0 issues besides overheating lol, wish they would make these laptops thicker by 1/2 inch and throw some extra cooling at it, I seriously could care less, its already bulky and heavy at this extreme tier of gaming, might as well give us proper cooling.
     
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    Sequential go up with capacity typically, it's the randoms that are hurt by slower speeds but if you mitigate that with how you use it you wont notice the difference as above
     
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    Added a 2nd NVMe SSD to my Eluktronics P670RS-G and installed Linux Mint 19.1. Everything works except the trackpad and the headphone jack (speakers stay on). Updated the kernel to 14.8 (stable0 but that didn't fix it.

    Anyone running Linux on one of these have any suggestions?

    Sam
     
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    Does that model use a Synaptics touchpad?

    Other than that, perhaps @Dennismungai may have some expertise to offer.
     
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  19. Dennismungai

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    For that, you will need to apply this patch to a custom kernel. It was never merged upstream, yet your laptop needs it. It's the same ESS Sabre Audio DAC as the one on the MSI GS43VR 6/7RE laptop(s).

    For this, ensure that your kernel boot options (in /etc/default/grub) looks like this:

    GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="acpi_osi=! acpi_osi='Windows 2009' blacklist=nouveau quiet splash"

    Then update the config via:

    sudo update-grub

    And reboot.

    Edited to add the patch link, sorry for that.
     
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    Thanks I'll give it a try.

    Sam
     
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    HI where can i get official EC Firmware update for P670RS-G?
     
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    Your reseller usually.
     
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    Well, before i wrote this question , i asked about it my reseller but weird enough after few days of waiting there is still nothing.
     
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    Have you tried giving them a call?
     
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    Well, the laptop had two SATA ports so I was able to place a new 2TB drive on top/next to the current 1TB drive. It's not 4TB but it's close enough for now, and without having to bend any sata ports to fit in :p
     
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    You can also raid them :)
     
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    I could buuuuut I won't :p
     
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    Staying in the slow lane eh? :p
     
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    Hi! I'm looking into replacing the 256gb SSD in my Medion Erazer X7849 (it's a cheap, DRAMless SSD that's going slower than a hard drive...) with an ADATA XPG X8200 Pro 512GB NVME SSD. From what I've read, the two M.2 slots work at SATA speeds when both are populated but when only 1 is active, it runs at NVME speeds. My question is that would I be able to connect the XPG SSD along with the current SSD so that I could clone them?
     
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    IIRC no, the controller goes into pci-e mode and drops thr sata channels.

    You could put your m.2 in a sata caddy though.
     
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    You should be fine. I got a pcie and m.2 in there. They both benchmarks as they should and I haven't had any issues when coping between them. ymmv

    Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk
     
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    So you have an nvme m.2 and a sata m.2 (same physical size (so both m.2) just different electrical connections?

    That means the controller can split then and I just misremembered.
     
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    Yes, But I also remember reading the same thing about this model. However I had a spare m.2 ssd lying around and tried it and it works. I don't know if it's a bios issue other people were having or what.

    Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk
     
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    Hi! Are both the m.2 slots capable of nvme or is it a specific one?
     
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    I don't know. I just have 1 nvme
     
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    Okay, so which slot is it in? Horizontal or vertical?
     
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    If I remember correctly it's the vertical one. The manual has all that info
     
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    Cheers for the info! :)
     
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    Someone read the manual? Nice to hear :) worth checking out for technical details.
     
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    My manual is a 2 - 3 hr train ride away from me so I cant exactly check it instantly xD
     
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    Digital copies my friend ;)
     
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    Got my new XPG SX8200 Pro SSD installed and working fine :)
    Both M.2 slots worked fine when I had both SSDs installed so cloneing the old SSD wasnt an issue. System feels much more responsive now :D
     
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    Good to hear it wasn't just me
     
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    I wanted to revisit and compare temps, if anyone else wanted to share? I have the 2016 version of the Sager 8173, and I re-pasted with liquid metal maybe around a year ago, and undervolted my cpu. Gaming/heavy load temps range around 75c for the CPU and 89-90c for the 1070 GPU. I also have a cooling pad, as a use the laptop mostly 'docked' into a desktop type setup with an external monitor, keyboard & mouse. Before the re-paste and undervolt I was getting mid-high 90's for both CPU and GPU.

    What are others getting?
     
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    Im using Kryonaut on both my CPU and GPU, undervolted my CPU (-130mV on Core, -125mV on Cache) and undervolted my GPU (maxes 1784hz @ 850mV).

    Gaming temps in Watch Dogs 2 (great game for benchmarking, uses both CPU + GPU heavily) is 85C for CPU and 89C for the GPU in max fan speed mode.
     
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    So woke yday with cpu idling inlow 60s and loading into the 80s on just WoW and gpu in the 70s

    repasted my MX-2 on cpu and replacing liquid metal on gpu also didnt do anything even fans maxxed didnt help
    Same with some overwatch 80s on cpu etc.

    Bought some kryonaught and before I started to repasted decided to unscrew the fans to check the grills on the inner side (since had no compressed air)

    Turns out Had a small carpet build up on the inner grills.
    Promptly removed it and repasted.

    Cpu idles on the 40s gpu on the 30s. at 50-60% cpu usage tempss in the 48-50s

    Loaded WoW cpu hits 55s and gpu was peak 47s.
    Loaded Overwatch at 140% render scale and maxxed. (Gpu used to max into the 70s and under full fan curve like 70 peak)
    Today cpu peaked at the 65c range in warmer ambient temperature room and gpu was in the high 50s range fans not even loading up.
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    OW wasnt on max settings only high set to ultra gpu peaked at 61c and cpu 70s top fans still not even loading up

    Just ran Furmark and Prime95 at the same time for full synthetic load. 15mins was enough
    CPU Peaked at 90c
    GPU Peaked at 66c!!!!! 100% load gpu lmao

    Ambient heat was definitely transferring to cpu. Maxxing out fans temp was stable at 88-90c even though without manual full speed it was the same.

    As soon as gpu load dropped with fans maxed it went to 74c on CPU and it now at 79-80c stable on cpu under full load and fans on auto.
    So the shared gpu heatpipe was eating a bunch of cooling from cpu

    the cooling in this systems pretty beasty but yeah guys go check your grills and properly repaste your temps are in the high range for what this can dissipate
     
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    August will be my laptops 3rd birthday! The CPU is a little long in the tooth now, but the 1070 GPU is still a cracker. Don't think I'll upgrade this year, especially because I want to go back to an MXM laptop and those are pricey!
     
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    The CPU will still get the job done though for most things, still snappier than any u series CPU.
     
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    Yes you can use it.
     
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