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    *** Official Clevo P67xRP6-G/P67xRS-G (Sager NP8172/8173) Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by D2 Ultima, Sep 11, 2016.

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    south_valhalla Notebook Consultant

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    Oh for sure. For gaming and most office/media tasks it's more than fine. I do a lot of image processing and it struggles a bit with the large data sets I now work with, but my employer has stepped in with a monster of a desktop so I don't have to use the laptop for anything other than gaming these days. I'm just so impressed at how well it, and the 1070 in particular, has held up. It would probably still be good for another 2/3 years if you gamed at 1080p.

    {Update} Fixed typos
     
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    The early 1070/1080 adopters have had a long GPU life.
     
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    Owner since September 2016 my laptop is still going strong.

    idle temps
    CPU 40-46c
    GPU 44-49c

    load temps
    CPU 78-81c
    GPU 65-78c

    I've undervolted to 1.37 using the default CC and ThrottleStop

    I have yet to do a repaste. Did I win the silicon lottery?

    One concern is that the fans have started to kick up. It's not terrible, not as load as the maximum fan speed setting. But quite noticeable.

    Is there a guide to repasting the NP 8173-s?
    Any pesky keyboard removal?

    I can live with the fan noise. I don't want to mess up my good temps. But it has to be time to do a repaste right?
    I should note that I'm not using stock paste. I paid extra for CPU/GPU repaste at purchase.
     
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    Have you cleaned the heatsink since you got it with compressed air or similar?
     
  5. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    I mean have read some got similar. Tried other graphics drivers?
     
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    I've used compressed air in past, but not recently.

    I'll open up my laptop tomorrow and give a good spray.
     
  7. Meaker@Sager

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    Just be sure to hold the fans still :)
     
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    squee666 Notebook Evangelist

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    [​IMG]

    Guess who managed to get a 15mm 5TB drive and an SSD inserted into the double bay

    Notes this involved removing the ssd from the casing entirely as it didnt fit into the mounting bracket and also involved bending the 2nd bracket slightly
     
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    And some insulating tape to ensure no shorts?
     
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    squee666 Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah since the base plate is metal i insulated taped it.
    and since the hard disk itself is metal i taped it also.

    I didnt directly tape the pcb to give it the breathing room
     
  11. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    The last thing to be sure is the breathing hole of the HDD is uncovered? If so nice work :)
     
  12. south_valhalla

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    Nice. I stuck with a 2TB in that slot because I wanted a 7200RPM drive. I messed around with a 4TB and it was such a tight fit, so good job,
     
  13. squee666

    squee666 Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah tight fit is the light way to put it [​IMG] [​IMG]

    I need to stop it poking up the best I can do is dremel the data connector on the ssd underside so it contacts the hdd less

    Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk
     
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    There is one hole under that taped area.
     
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    TheUberMedic Notebook Evangelist

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    I would be constantly clenching if I had that in my laptop xD
     
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    squee666 Notebook Evangelist

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    i know i sorted it luckily the holes are to prevent pressure changes in atmosphere which wont happen as it isnt moving
     
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    Pressure changes happen with seasons and the weather too so always better to be safe.
     
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    Hi, I own an Erazer X7849 (which is P670RS-GM) and I have a problem with its battery. My stock battery has stopped charging and then Win just said that it's connected, but after a while it just showed that "There is no battery". So I thought this is a battery thing and I have bought used battery. I installed it and it showed that there is 3% available, then I rebooted and it shows 6% but it does not show that it is charging (just "Connected"). Is there any way to test laptop/battery to see whether those are the problems with the batteries or the laptop/charging itself?
     
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    Hi,

    P670RS-G - touchpad not working properly (after sleep):

    I have this weird problem: My touchpad feel unresponsive on bootup, but works alright after a while. BUT it stops working after I put the computer to sleep. Does anyone recognize this problem, and have a solution to it?

    Any suggestions are welcome. I really hope somebody recognize this problem because it drives me crazy. I bought the computer in "second hand", so I'd also like to know where to download any drivers that might be required (everything seem installed except that the touchpad isn't working properly).

    Regards

    John
     
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    Not without equipment, does it charge with the machine off at all?
     
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    Is kryonaut better than icd?

    I benchmarked both the CPU and graphics and it was stable at 3.7 with a nice under clock and 3.8 with a slight under clock but long gaming sessions take it to thermal limit and I get crashes or freezes 98c. On stock which may already be icd it's fine.

    And can someone direct me to the best / correct thermal pads?

    P670RS-G
     
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    Similar pastes, the thermal grizzly is easier to work with and does not create scratches so I prefer it.

    Their thermal pads are decent too.
     
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    Happy New years all,

    Will I be able to get better top end temps then I currently do? Half my cores seem about 7 degrees higher so I'm thinking it's a bad paste?.

    However I've read others having cooling issues at idle which mine seems fine.

    Trying to work out if it's worth doing? or have I already reached cooling system capacity?

    For overclockers out there what thickness pads did you use and what are your stable OCs?
     
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    What are your load temperatures?
     
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    squee666 Notebook Evangelist

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    im curious that if you were mad enough to reball a 6820hk to replace the 6700 would it work
     
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    Yes it should l, though I don't know if any overclocking would unlock.
     
  27. squee666

    squee666 Notebook Evangelist

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    fair enough
    also too bad there isnt a prema bios i can use, i had one for my w370st and loved it but now its locked behind oems/ sending system to service centers and no one will supply me the bios themselves.

    I tried dming some people in 2018 to no avail no one replied its like getting blood out of a stone.
    my system is the medion rebrand so I couldnt use a 3rd party reseller to get it if i tried

    actually wanted things like csm etc

    nvm found a bios that was modded got it back tho my boot logo isnt as good anymore T_T
     
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    The logo is the easiest part to mod iirc but still requires unpacking and repacking it.
     
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    squee666 Notebook Evangelist

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    yeah theres also a program that lets you change it manually in windows requires secureboot turned off, not like i usually have a use for it anyway
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Most people don't to be fair at least until you do get hit with something if you are unlucky or not careful online.
     
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    Does anyone knows how to fix a "dead" gpu on this model?
    I cant see my 1060 in the device Manager any longer. CPU one works fine.
    Tried following things already:
    - Fresh install of win10
    - removing Intel Drivers with ddu and trying to install nvdia Drivers (failed - cant detect)
    - Deactivate hybrid mode over the Software - resulted in a blackscreen.
    - it is not beeing displayed under "Show hidden devices"
    - Clean the fans an d repasting the thermal paste
    - starting it up with only one memmory stick
    - searched for updated bios Drivers but could not find.

    Sadly it broke some weeks after the warranty run out and sending it in will probably cost more money then this laptop is currently worth. Only thing left is the heatgun fix which im a bit afraid of to be honest.
     
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    You would need a professional to look at it.
     
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    Okay then, thank you.
    Someone wants to buy a clevo p670rp6 in good condition? (gpu cant be detected) :D
     
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    The members market is the area to sell parts and it has certain rules to follow.
     
  35. squee666

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    been wanting to replace my keyboard for awhile as the backlight doesnt get as bright and when i first got it the default blue was dimmer than the other leds (as it was used), proven by the fact it cant go purple and white is more of an orange.that and the black on the space and W keys peeling away.

    finding a UK keyboard is annoying and expensive £62+ meanwhile US keyboards i can get for £40
    my solution is to just buy a US keyboard and replace the ' key and the 2 key as the layout is the same but " and @ are swapped on the key design

    well that and the size of the enter key is shrunk also
     
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    Backslash tends to be different too.
     
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    Hello! more than a month ago i buy an P670 RS-G based laptop ! My previous laptop, is a P670RP-6M - i6300hq+gtx1060. Now on old one, if i go on sound settings / playback, i have Speakers, Realtek HD Audio 2nd output, Digital output! The 2nd audio output jack has a red light inside, very useful in night when you plug your headphones.
    Now, switching to new laptop, i didn't notice in sound settings, the Realtek HD Audio 2nd output is missing! Also when i start the laptop, red light from jack turn on, and turns it self off after driver gets loaded when windows starts! It light on only headphones are plugged , after disconnect i can see light going off. With windows generic drivers,(HD Audio) led stay always on as it should! But still no 2nd output shown .
    Audio is playing fine in headset till 50% in windows volume. Anything after this its sound distorted, like to much power for my headset, or half burned amplifier chip :( . Sound Blaster XFi has no problems, clevo CC detects 48 ohms! Headsets are working fine on old laptop on the same audio output!
    I open the laptop and check the audio board, for reseat. Then i found out some of the ic is getting very hot under sound playback, i couldn't hold tip of my finger on it! I checked the board on old laptop, same size and fits, but more pins on p670rs-g , so no luck on swaping !
    Now can anyone confirm, that on P670RS-G (i6700hq+GTX1070) in sound settings/ playback , Realtek HD Audio 2nd output is there? Or for this model is missing!? Or my board is half dead and not showing it. Anyone getting distorted sound on higher volume?
    I've got a felling that the audio board is partially dead.
    Audio board is the same on P650RS P670HS P650HS SN: 6-71-P65S8-D02B
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
  38. RZR

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    I can confirm that's the normal behaviour on my P670RS-G (6820hk+GTX1070). I don't think that red LED is there so you can plug your headphones at night easier.

    This model has a 2-in-1 Audio jack (Headphone / S/PDIF Optical output). The red LED you see is part of the S/PDIF assembly. It turns on when you power on (I guess it's a test/self test procedure) and then turns off when the driver gets loaded. I don't see the logic in staying on, as it only gets used when you plug a digital audio cable.

    I don't know about the 2nd HD Audio output either. On mine, the only available outputs are Speakers or Digital output when you have nothing plugged in (I guess it changes Speakers for Headphones when you plug these...). Also these only have 3 Jack: 1xLine out jack, 1xMicrophone jack, 1x2-in-1 Audio jack (Headphone / S/PDIF Optical output) so only one digital output. I don't know if that other output you mention is the HDMI output, as I don't have any cable here to check that now.

    This doesn't mean your amplifier isn't dead, I don't know what chip is that, is there anything written on it? I don't get distorted sound on headphones, but I haven't checked on high volume either.
     
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    The chip acording to schematic AU2 - OPA1622. and then connections go to relay, i suspected to be problem, but i hear relay making click when plug in headset! The relay is a bit hot as well. But i dont know if this is normal operating temp under load, i didn't read anything about opa1622!
    I think i've got to familiar with my old latop P670RP6-M :) there i have 2 nd output and led stays on all time!
    [​IMG]
     
  40. RZR

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    That's the TI Burr-Brown Audio headphone Amplifier then:

    https://www.ti.com/product/OPA1622

    It's operating temperature range is -40 to 125 by the way...
     
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    It should be staying on all the time btw
    I have mine loaded and its on ,its used for the onboard Sabre DAC that I use for music on my headphones

    my output looks like this laptop/speaker that dcetects analogue input
    sp/dif / dac
    lineout

    [​IMG]

    so yeah you should be getting light on
     
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    Yeah the click is also it measuring the resistance of the headphones and adapting the volume range.
     
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    This is what i have on my audio controls! i never seen DAC before! Maybe i dont have right drivers?!
    I have the one from here currently. If led not stay on all time then must be something wrong!
    [​IMG]
     
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    its called DAC because i renamed it and changed the icon
    also im not using that driver because windows will auto update you to the latest which breaks the software suite so atm im using the modded suite to get sound blaster connect

    [​IMG]
     
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    Now i saw windows update drivers to v6.0.1.8172! But still , Xfi working without problems. I don't know what to think on this audio board. Maybe it has a problem! And only replacement i find is on aliexpress! Can you upload to mega.nz or put a link to your currently mod you using?! Thank you!
     
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    I used this because the windows update to realtek drivers broke my XiFi so i swapped some nice customization options

    used the guide here gives me audio enhancements of my choice when configured

    http://puresoftapps.blogspot.com/2018/04/realtek-apo-driver.html

    atm im busy undervolting my system so far im at -150mv on cpu and a slight volatage curve change on my 1070 putting it closer to max Q curve

    temps actually dropped decently in games not using full load like a 10c gpu drop
     
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    I find mine stable at -105.5 on cpu & cache! Still reaches 70-75 c and nothing on gpu 1070, 63-67. This model needed a better cooling on cpu side. I wanted to make a mod with a more powerful fan, ordered one that i saw on my friend laptop, but what came instead is just a joke paad06015sl -n285 :mad: They are too thin, smaller than actually we have on p670! i needed n376!
     
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    I sorta gave up on under clocking I got around -150 stable but then one game wouldn't be stable then VMware wouldn't be stable etc...
     
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    I gave up undervolting/overclocking too as it proved unstable on my system on linux. Also, thermal margin on this thing is not enough to get any overclock worthy, at least for me.

    If you want to get the lowest possible temp. you should begin by using a high performance paste like Kryo and checking CPU/GPU heat-sink clearance. Getting the smallest possible gap between die and heat-sink was actually what caused the greatest impact on temps. on my notebook. Then you can stress it and get results like this:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...3-owners-lounge.795990/page-144#post-10801228

    Or like this, as I'm writing this post right now:

    [​IMG]
     
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    Your idle clocks become the limiting factor with dynamic clocks.
     
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