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first of all, no it wont. 6820HK as a mobile cpu will be slower in any case than the 6700K desktop model, which the DM series will sport, and even that is basically just on par with the 4790K stock for stock.
second, the 6820HK as a soldered cpu will not be supported in the DM series, so its a moot point anyways

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Intel only doing laptop cpus soldered to motherboards is more than enough reason to buy the P750ZM or the P750DM.

 

The life cycle of notebooks is very marginal and my needs will be met for the next 5 years before I upgrade again. To squeeze extra fps out of every ghz I would leave to the uber users that area. I have a wife and two kids to feed so I could not really justify spending $2500 or even charging a regular credit card (I do not have that type of dough) for the DM. The alienware 17 with the GA covers my needs right now with dell financing no (interest for a year). When my 980m starts to stutter with games, the ga gpu can take over. But my family budget and their needs come first. As you can see from my 5-year-old system signature, I try to make means with what I have. Had to get special permission from the wifey to even splurge on the AW which stretches the budget a bit. Every person has to assess their needs and wants and balance it with their financial situation and obligations.

 

er...compared to desktop CPUs like 4790K, 6700K, etc??

 

Seems, your priorities are straight. Can't begrudge that.

 

P7 is desktop series, but P6 refresh will have 6820HK option and e.g. Mythlogic offers financing, too.

 

what i WOULD be interested though, is how much oc the 6820HK will be able to get squeezed out of in the P6 refresh machines i surely hope clevo decided to beef up the heatpipe number / heatsink weight in that area...!

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They made some improvements...

 

Mythlogic even have a 90 Day Same As Cash. So, you can really go over the top on your build.

 

Comparing the CPUs is a little silly, they are the same chip in slightly different packages. It will come down to cooling and power delivery of the chassis they are in.

 

Clevo used 4Ghz as OC guideline for the 6820HK in the P6 and 4.5ghz for the 6700K in the P7...but only RL experiences will tell...

 

Until I see an h-series processor hold more than 57w beyond the short term turbo limit, they may as well be completely different products. I don't really care if an HK is unlocked or targeted at 4.0ghz or 4.5ghz if it only stays at 100% max boost for 2.5 minutes. Several chassis could sustain power and thermal requirements for such a condition, if only Intel hadn't neutered the tdp limits and I'm not convinced those limits have been raised with these new "unlocked mobile" chips.

 

That's what the BIOS Mods are for, no artificial TDP limits there...

 

That'd be 15% perf hit with i7-6820K clocked at 4ghz vs i7-6700k at 4.5ghz going by the over-clocking analysis here
however, No difference if your primary usage is gaming :/

 

It would be dumb to release an unlocked mobile chip if the TDP was still locked... You could just buy an HQ chip instead and have the full features of the chip whereas the HK has been neutered like Intel does with their desktop K chips. The HK appears to be a BGA desktop K chip, right down to cutting chip features like vPro (the MX/XM had all of the features that a non-K chip did on the desktop). Compare here... http://ark.intel.com/m/compare/88969,88970,88195

If you look at features removed from the K and HK, they are not removed on the HQ.

 

Yes that disclaimer is still there it's true but on that front we will have to wait and see.

 

DDR4 3000 SoDIMM is out...

http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/215830/apacer-announces-nox-ddr4-3000-so-dimm-memory.html

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^^^^^ Just checking. My question to all is who would really order one of these new Skylake releases with more than 32GB memory?
Also why would you need or want more than 32GB?

 

Aerial photography editing/conversion; >128GB.

 

For me this is the primary reason I'm waiting for the DM instead of the ZM.

I would use 64GB in order to reduce rendering times for motion graphics and video editing projects. (it seems there is a bigger bump from 32GB to 64GB compared to going from 16GB to 32GB).

Since the P750 series is the only laptop available with desktop CPU and these kinds of applications are very CPU-intensive, I imagine there must be others in similar fields who are interested in this series.

In the event 32GB DDR4 SODIMM sticks become available in the future, I will likely upgrade to 128GB.

 

Software development (compiling), Virtual Machines, and Graphics Rendering.

 

To add my usage scenario to all the others: My P750zm is a mobile workstation above all else. Data modeling and simulations. A lot of my work is serialized so it doesn't always benefit from more than 2 fast cores, but it does benefit from being stored completely in ram as opposed to being clustered.

Believe me, if regulations allowed me to do this in the cloud instead of on a personal machine I would consider it. If 64gb of ddr3 was available today, I would buy it in a heartbeat.

 

Yes the ZM caters to the gaming crowd and "others" much like the P570WM did.

 

Origin PC has theirs for sale: https://www.originpc.com/gaming/laptops/eon17-x/

The 15-X is their 15 inch one. Note that the descriptions describe the ZM, but I confirmed USB-C with sales and ordered.

 

Anyone else order yet? I'm thinking about just pulling the trigger through RJ Tech, I spoke with them and they said they don't see an issue with getting their shipments on 9/25 as stated on their website (which is a Friday) and then shipping out the next week.

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Also looks like Mythologic has removed the ZM from their website as well, the floodgates should break anytime now

 

looking forward to the first handson user reports then this owner's lounge can finally earn its proper name

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I hope to learn a lot from hands on experience after reading post after post about thermal paste, lapping, thermal pads, overclocking , undervolting, etc. These are all relatively new areas to me but I'm excited to learn. I know there are a lot of great users on here with alot of experience and knowledge.

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FIFY - considering the track record of these threads

 

Hi guys.
Is there any rumor about compability of new DM models with nex generetion of GPU - Pascal? It may affect on decision buy DM with 980M and then upgrade or wait till 990M.
Aswel, any info about availability of 17" 4k DM? Thanks.

 

I haven't read too much into the 990M, but I do recall a lot of doubt over if it will use the same MXM standard as the 980M does.
Otherwise it seems as if Clevo has hinted towards the P750DM could run it.
But of course there is no reason that Clevo could take a mobile graphics card that is larger in dimensions than the 970M and 980M and move things around inside the laptops chassis to make room for a bigger card.
The other rumor that I remember was that the 990M could not use MXM at all, but instead just be soldered directly into the motherboard, just like the newest mobile Intel cpus.
If it turns out that those of us with P750ZM and P750DM laptops will not be to upgrade to the 990M gpu,
Hopefully the Pascal mobile gpus will continue to use standard MXM interface...
I also wish that different laptop manufacturers wouldn't be so proprietary with the MXM cards, or that brands like EVGA could make the cards, and you could buy them from places like Newegg...
Otherwise if you have a Clevo, Alienware or a Asus laptop and you want to upgrade and get more life out of your laptop, you have to track down brand and model specific MXM gpus.
It really pisses me off when laptops have soldered in cpus and gpus, if you want a new cpu or gpu, you have to replace the entire laptop.... Ugh.

 

Anyone know when the Mushkin Hyperion is coming?

 

990M will be available as both MXM and soldered, depending on the machine. It is just a full GM204 chip.

 

good thing is: as opposed to CPUs with intel having complete control over whether theyre soldered or not, MXM gpus are actually designed and built by the vendors / OEMs / ODMs and NOT the chip manufacturers (Nvidia / AMD)! so the laptop manufacturers have complete control over whether a gpu generation is in MXM format or not. seeing as Clevo is going the desktop CPU route in their high performance machines in order to avoid soldered crap, Id say theres a good chance of them making sure that future GPU generations are built in the MXM format

 

I'm very interested in seeing the 990M in the same package as the 980M.
Now if only buying the Clevo 980M by it self wasn't so ridiculously expensive.
It seems be cheaper to get your laptop with the 980M included, than buying it as a upgrade part later on.

 

it only makes sense if u also sell your previous gpu for a good price, on ebay for example then its not THAT expensive anymore, totaling both amounts

 

Remember the 980M MXM card has a lot of head room in power delivery

 

how could we forget that meaker? especially after your special operation on your 980M, pimping it up to unleash its true beastliness
also makes sense temperature-wise, if you ask me. in the ZM/DM series we have like 25-30C of thermal headroom even overclocked to the bleeding edge! looking at such numbers, it wouldnt really surprise me to see a fully unleashed 990M in MXM factor being capable of running in the batman family

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If you think about it carefully I think you will realize what is going on, though I have predicted this as soon as the 980M was launched. It has been the easiest refresh to predict to date really

 

sure, classic ngreedia milking the most outta their chips

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So, it is on Clevo's website already

www.clevo.com.tw/clevo_prodetail.asp?id=807&lang=en

But, what is a FlexiCharger?

 

It's new to that model, but there isn't really any other information on their site that I could find. They don't have a manual for that model up either yet, and searching the web for it doesn't show much except for chargers for electric cars, so we might have to wait a bit to find out...

 

Maybe a smaller and more powerful charger? Can't wait for P751DMs to start shipping out!

 

A 17,600 Watt adapter ???





Seriously, though:

 

your last two images dont show up here

edit: ah, now i can

 

I can see it

 

Flexicharger is a feature that we have asked Clevo to introduce and have been discussing with them for quite a while; it is being implimented in new Skylake models for the first time

It is basically a feature to stop microcharging. When you have your laptop running and plugged into the mains power, if the battery capacity drops to say 99% it will re-charge the battery back up to 100% automatically. With Flexi Charge this will not happen. The battery capacity can be allowed to fall to a lower level before it will automatically charge and this will ultimately extend the life of the battery, because it stops microcharging and reduces the number of charge cycles.

The threshhold of the Flexi Charge can be set in the BIOS, so owners will have some control over the functionality!

 

nice, this is perfect for holding capacity at an optimal 40-50% good job there xmg!

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Fantastic news. Out of curiosity, can anyone explain the difference between P750DM/P751DM or P770DM/P771DM? Geographical location / cultural differences for the keyboard? Something else technology-wise?

 

i bet its the same as in the ZM series: basically just a tad different in the visuals. the 7x1 had black matte exhaust grills, whereas the 7x0 were black n glossy iirc. also, the 7x1 was sold in europe, whereas asia and the americas got the 7x0...

otherwise these models are exactly the same

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